Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hmm... how conclusive is this (underlined) when all it says in the Dupicate Boy bio is that he mimics the powers of superbeings near him. It says nothing of base levels. That would mean if he mimicked say for example an FF member he'd just be human since without externally derived enhancement they are just humans.
I'm thinking along the same lines.... he can copy Superman's powers.... but without a crapload of solar radiation he wouldn't have a fraction of those abilities.... yet he does gain them
Originally posted by Blair Wind
can the thing survive having lava poured all over him?
Thing can survive temperature extremes for a period of time. Neither he or Monolith could bathe in lava, but they could survive being splattered. It's not like I'm going to be wading in a pool of lava or skinny dipping in a volcano.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Thing can survive temperature extremes for a period of time. Neither he or Monolith could bathe in lava, but they could survive being splattered. It's not like I'm going to be wading in a pool of lava or skinny dipping in a volcano.
have you seen aladdin? all that molten rock? My Crystals assualt you with it, its not gonna be just a dripping of molten rock
Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm thinking along the same lines.... he can copy Superman's powers.... but without a crapload of solar radiation he wouldn't have a fraction of those abilities.... yet he does gain them
thats a very good point. In my last battle I provided a scan of him duplicating superboys powers and immediatly using it against him. Hes not the same as say Mimic in that he basically copies your DNA to have your power (thats my opinion of mimic at least) but he can just copy the power and power levels you are currently at. That would mean that I could duplicate Monolith and be at the same level as him 😄
Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm thinking along the same lines.... he can copy Superman's powers.... but without a crapload of solar radiation he wouldn't have a fraction of those abilities.... yet he does gain them
Uh, no.
Copying Ahmet would make Duplicate Boy Ahmet (Living Pharoah), who is a mutant.
Living Monolith is to Ahmet (Living Pharoah) what Sundipped Supes is to Regular Supes. Dupe Boy would not be able to copy Superman's sundipped form, he'd copy his base form, just as Dupe Boy would not copy Ahmet's "cosmic dipped" form, he'd copy his original powers.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Uh, no.Copying Ahmet would make Duplicate Boy Ahmet (Living Pharoah), who is a mutant.
Living Monolith is to Ahmet (Living Pharoah) what Sundipped Supes is to Regular Supes. Dupe Boy would not be able to copy Superman's sundipped form, he'd copy his base form, just as Dupe Boy would not copy Ahmet's "cosmic dipped form" form, he'd copy his original powers.
nonono, see the thing is if that were true, once he copied superman hed still need yellow sun radiation to get to even supermans level (supermans BASE level....is well......like a humans) however he already has his powers (immediatly)
Dupe Boy is a lot more powerful than synch or mimic. 😄
Originally posted by illadelph12
No, he wouldn't, because he'd be a BASE LEVEL Kryptonian, just as he'd be BASE LEVEL Ahmet.
nope. A base level Krytonian is human level. Superman just has yellow radiation. This trick might have worked with Mimic and Synch, but DB is much more powerful. He copies their power levels as well. Its more like his body does whatever the person he is "copying" does at that time not he scans them and gets their base power.
Fine, but I still haven't outfoxed myself:
KK has been along side Monolith this whole tournament. He knows his structural flaws, it's one of his abilities (knowing the weak point in any object or humanoid). He sizes up your dopplegangers, knows their weak points (since they are Monolith), and tells my Monolith where to strike and how to disable them, then he and Monolith slaughter the clones and the rest of your jabroni team just as before. KK has shattered diamonds and Khund starship hulls with a precision strike of his fist, it's not an issue.
They can't fly as fast as my Monolith can, and they definitely have no idea how to use his powers, they've been training the whole time to use Crystal and Powerhouse's powers, and per tournament rules, characters with copying powers can gain powers, but no experience or skill in their use. By switching in mid-battle, they're at a complete loss.
You now have 4 useless team mates (Dupe Prime, and 3 hapless Monolith clones), Powerhouse, Crystal, 6 mindless Wendigos that share a psionic link of pain, and the other 2 dupes (Crystal or Powerhouse, it doesn't matter).
Once I kill Dupe Boy Prime, who has no powers but Multiple Man's, meaning he has no defensive or offensive capabilities, your Monolith and your Crystal and Powerhouse clones, hell, half your team, disappears.
And since CIS is involved (Thank you Dizzle), what's to stop the Wendigo's from trying to eat their own teammates? It sure happened in the comics. And they're going to be in a severe state of fear with some crazy red head tossing around lava and sand everywhere.
And they're on your side of the battlefield.
interesting. Wont work though.
Monoliths powers are to drain ambient cosmic energy from anywhere and it happens naturally. Concussive Blasts are not that hard to figure out, when they come out of you hands. Also how did Monolith learn all his powers so fast the first time he got them if their not easy to learn? Three Monoliths would drain the cosmic energy from your Monolith leaving him to be nothing more than the pharoah. The sand and lava would kill him in this state. KK is still to busy with my Crystals to do anything to DB Prime (KK knows nothing about him, and so wouldnt know to kill him first) I already said I sent the Wendigos (through use of winds) smelling out the rest of you team, going around the storm. KK and Pharoah are out with two of my monoliths taking Crystals powers and creating a bigger storm. I win 😄
Uh, no.
His powers aren't to drain the ambient cosmic energy from anywhere, his powers involve absorbing ambient cosmic energy from anywhere, but in the presence of OTHER cosmically mutated characters (like Havok or the F4), he is effected. Being around himself (since you copied him) will not hurt him.
Your Wendigo's are brainless flesh eating beasts, and they have a meal right next to them. I'm down wind. In order for my scent to carry to them, your wind currents would have to be travelling in YOUR direction, meaning your sand and lava storm is coming at you. They also don't speak, and no one on your team is a telepath (hell, no one in the tournament is). You have no way of communicating with them.
As for DB Prime, KK knows the position of everyone on the battlefield because he can hear their heartbeats. It's not going to be hard to notice someone is hiding given that Dupe Boy Prime's heartbeat is away from the group. KK is no idiot, and he has a very acute combat sense. He also knows Duplicate Boy, they are teammates. You're a touch of death away from having half your team killed.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Uh, no.His powers aren't to drain the ambient cosmic energy from anywhere, his powers involve absorbing ambient cosmic energy from anywhere, but in the presence of OTHER cosmically mutated characters (like Havok or the F4), he is effected. Being around [b]himself
(since you copied him) will not hurt him.Your Wendigo's are brainless flesh eating beasts, and they have a meal right next to them. I'm down wind. In order for my scent to carry to them, your wind currents would have to be travelling in YOUR direction, meaning your sand and lava storm is coming at you. They also don't speak, and no one on your team is a telepath (hell, no one in the tournament is). You have no way of communicating with them.
As for DB Prime, KK knows the position of everyone on the battlefield because he can hear their heartbeats. It's not going to be hard to notice someone is hiding given that Dupe Boy Prime's heartbeat is away from the group. KK is no idiot, and he has a very acute combat sense. He also knows Duplicate Boy, they are teammates. You're a touch of death away from having half your team killed. [/B]
as stated here
http://www.nategrey.freeservers.com/Monolith.htm
when havoks around he cant use his powers. Why? because havok and him have the same basic dna (apoc and sinister made him that way) so yes being around himself will hurt him. So your one monolith would be conflicted against my three monoliths, and all his power would be drained. My three would then channel that power to one of them, then switch to crystals. Lava, sand, and lighting have already downed KK (and no KK and DB are not teamates. The legion and the heroes of lallor are more like rivals), and while Im sending winds in your direction, I can also be sending winds from behind your position to the wendigos for them to follow. and winds to push them away from me if nessarcary to move them into position
edit: in that link it also states that she hulk and Captain America electrocuted him with a power cable and he shrank back in size. Lighting strikes through my Crystals could also work
heres where it talks about apoc and sinister http://www.mutanthigh.com/monolith.html