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Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
If having gay sex serves no purpose and is so bad, Why did god "intellegently design" mens bodies to receive alot of peasure doing it?

Sounds like you know what you're talking about

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
why do gays enjoy "banging each others bungholes" ?

Crude but - Who am I to judge

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Surely god wouldn't make it an enjoyable experience if it is so wrong.

Well I don't know if it's enjoyable you seem to!

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
No as I stated I'm not gay, Nor do I have any experience. but this post wasn't to ask that, It was to imply that I am gay. (smilie says it all really!)

No smiley needed you can see how your confusion could confuse others. You are about as entertaining as a child's inflatable punching toy. You bop it, it springs back, you bop it again and you forget it ever existed. It slowly deflates in an unused corner, then one day you throw it away.

Come on, Whirly. Homosexual or not, it's obvious it must be an enjoyable experience or they wouldn't do it.

Everyone knows this, you do too.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Come on, Whirly. Homosexual or not, it's obvious it must be an enjoyable experience or they wouldn't do it.

Everyone knows this, you do too.

-AC

Its not about that, Its just personal attacks against me, The fact that he ignores all the counter points with reference to "my experience" and just goes back to flaming me about my sexuality...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Come on, Whirly. Homosexual or not, it's obvious it must be an enjoyable experience or they wouldn't do it.

Everyone knows this, you do too.

-AC

I think it's subjectively pleasurably, Some people like Garlic others don't 🙂 some people do things for other reasons besides pleasure though. Personally I do not believe being Gay has anything to do with molesting children.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Its not about that, Its just personal attacks against me, The fact that he ignores all the counter points with reference to "my experience" and just goes back to flaming me about my sexuality...

Don't be so Whiny. I asked you a qauestion you answered it. I believe you are not gay but if you were it would be nothing to be ashamed of.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Don't be so Whiny. I asked you a qauestion you answered it. I believe you are not gay but if you were it would be nothing to be ashamed of.

If thats so Why did you go to question it again? typical tactic of children, Slinging names.... Honestly whirly, How old are you again???

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I think it's subjectively pleasurably, Some people like Garlic others don't 🙂 some people do things for other reasons besides pleasure though. Personally I do not believe being Gay has anything to do with molesting children.

I find it a bit odd that you'd say gay sex isn't pleasurable to gay men...but ok, whatever.

Being gay doesn't make you a molester, no. Molesting same sex children obviously means there's a sexual attraction and therefore homosexuality or hints of.

-AC

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
If thats so Why did you go to question it again? typical tactic of children, Slinging names.... Honestly whirly, How old are you again???

oooooOOO Diddums

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I find it a bit odd that you'd say gay sex isn't pleasurable to gay men...but ok, whatever.

Being gay doesn't make you a molester, no. Molesting same sex children obviously means there's a sexual attraction and therefore homosexuality or hints of.

-AC

I think things like sexual power, lack of self respect may play a part in both scenarios.

Fact: Male rape is not a crime about sexual orientation, sexuality, or sexual attraction. It is a crime about power, domination, humiliation and control. In fact, in the majority of male-male assaults, the perpetrator is a heterosexual male. A common scenario of male rape is that of a straight man raping a male who is or who is perceived to be gay. Other scenarios can include hazing or initiation rituals that involve sexual degradation, gang rapes by groups of men in order to dominate/humiliate the victim, and assaults in prison, hospital, or military settings. I think this is even more true where children are invloved.

"Male on Male Rape," by Michael Scarce
"If he is Raped: A Guidebook for Parents, Partners, Spouses & Friends," by McEvoy, Rollo & Brookings
"Male Victims of Sexual Assault," by Mezey & King
http://www.hopeforhealing.org/male.html
http://www.ncvc.org/gethelp/malerape/
http://www.montana.edu/wwwhs/voice/
http://www.montana.edu/msr
http://www.montana.edu/wwwcc

Yesterday

http://www.timesnews.co.ke/18feb06/nwsstory/opinion.html

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I think things like sexual power, lack of self respect may play a part in both scenarios.

Fact: Male rape is not a crime about sexual orientation, sexuality, or sexual attraction. It is a crime about power, domination, humiliation and control. In fact, in the majority of male-male assaults, the perpetrator is a heterosexual male. A common scenario of male rape is that of a straight man raping a male who is or who is perceived to be gay. Other scenarios can include hazing or initiation rituals that involve sexual degradation, gang rapes by groups of men in order to dominate/humiliate the victim, and assaults in prison, hospital, or military settings. I think this is even more true where children are invloved.

"Male on Male Rape," by Michael Scarce
"If he is Raped: A Guidebook for Parents, Partners, Spouses & Friends," by McEvoy, Rollo & Brookings
"Male Victims of Sexual Assault," by Mezey & King
http://www.hopeforhealing.org/male.html

http://www.ncvc.org/gethelp/malerape/
http://www.montana.edu/wwwhs/voice/
http://www.montana.edu/msr
http://www.montana.edu/wwwcc

Power rape is particularly older men though, it's not power if it's a kid is it? Not always anyway.

If you have a sexual attraction to a kid enough to molest them, it constitutes homosexuality. Homosexuality being attraction to the same sex.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Power rape is particularly older men though, it's not power if it's a kid is it? Not always anyway.

If you have a sexual attraction to a kid enough to molest them, it constitutes homosexuality. Homosexuality being attraction to the same sex.

-AC

I think with Rapists is usually about power and I think with Children it's of aboout abuse of power look at the Catholic Priest examples.

Abuse of power is abusing the power you have to get away with something you otherwise wouldn't have- not getting thrills off having power and dominance over another human.

There's clearly homosexuality involved (though maybe not the sole cause) in a molestation case where the guy is attracted to the kid sexually.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Abuse of power is abusing the power you have to get away with something you otherwise wouldn't have- not getting thrills off having power and dominance over another human.

There's clearly homosexuality involved (though maybe not the sole cause) in a molestation case where the guy is attracted to the kid sexually.

-AC

In that sense yes homosexuality is involved but I think we agree it's not the sole cause and obviously most homosexuals are not paedophiles.

Dubious Source but interesting link here a very good essay on the actual demographics of child abuse:

http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/sr244/waterson.htm

Well I wouldn't go so far as to say most paedophiles are not homosexuals, personally.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well I wouldn't go so far as to say most paedophiles are not homosexuals, personally.

-AC

Most homosexuals are not paedophiles - I actually agree with the above statement also. We need to make sure it's the way round I put it and not how it is in your statement otherwise the meaning is changed totally. 😉

Unless you know most paedophiles, you can't say whether most of them are homosexual or not.

Homosexuality does not logically lead to paedophilia, that's putting the wrong cart before the wrong horse.

Paedophilia is an attraction to young children, not necessarily because of the concept, but because of how they look, how they generally are physically. Therefore it's a sexual attraction, so if you're attracted to boys only, it's homosexual.

Not too sure where the confusion enters into it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Unless you know most paedophiles, you can't say whether most of them are homosexual or not.

Interestingly statistics on this are vague, however studies have shown that as Anal sex is the main sex involved for preteens the sex of the child is not usually an issue.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Homosexuality does not logically lead to paedophilia, that's putting the wrong cart before the wrong horse.

Agreed

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Paedophilia is an attraction to young children, not necessarily because of the concept, but because of how they look, how they generally are physically. Therefore it's a sexual attraction, so if you're attracted to boys only, it's homosexual.

Many experts would agree, many would disagree, I think a number of reasons can be given, none are right in every situation.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Not too sure where the confusion enters into it.

-AC

well

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
most homosexuals are not paedophiles.
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is not the same as

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well I wouldn't go so far as to say most paedophiles are not homosexuals, personally.

-AC

So it's not confusion, just not the same thing

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Question for Whob...

If having gay sex serves no purpose and is so bad, Why did god "intellegently design" mens bodies to receive alot of peasure doing it? why do gays enjoy "banging each others bungholes" ? Surely god wouldn't make it an enjoyable experience if it is so wrong.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Lots of things that are enjoyable are wrong. It doesn't make them any less wrong. Lots of things that are unpleasant are right. It doesn't make them any less right.

your missing the point. Its not about "is it right or wrong"

whob has said that it surves no purpose, so why has god "intellegently designed" it?

Stimulation of the prostate gland in males has been compared to stimulation of the Gräfenberg spot in females in that prostate stimulation can result in a more powerful orgasm. Stimulation of the prostate gland can be accomplished through anal sex and anal masturbation.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
your missing the point. Its not about "is it right or wrong"

whob has said that it surves no purpose, so why has god "intellegently designed" it?

Stimulation of the prostate gland in males has been compared to stimulation of the Gräfenberg spot in females in that prostate stimulation can result in a more powerful orgasm. Stimulation of the prostate gland can be accomplished through anal sex and anal masturbation.

You know a lot about this stuff mate 😉 you're pretty plugged in I guess 🙂 but people could claim you're up yourself couldn't they? 😉

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
You know a lot about this stuff mate

Well I did biology at school 🙂 cheers for the compliment!

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Well I did biology at school 🙂 cheers for the compliment!

You have a big hole 😖hifty: in that argument 😉

Funny prostate stimulation isn't on any GCSE or GCE course, I think you must have done some personal research, unless you had a special teacher 😉