Marv from Sin City VS. The Punisher

Originally posted by Etrigan
Nice argument, man. It amazes me how well people can support Punisher in these parts.

But can Punisher survive being smashed very hard on the head with a sledgehammer? I don't know. But marv did.

And I DO read Punisher. I know he's faster. But Kevin was faster, and Marv wasn't bothered by that. Punisher is a better fighter. So was Kevin.

Punisher is more experienced. Not necessarily.

Punisher IS better with weapons. True. But Marv seems to be awfully good at bullet dodging, not to mention bullet taking.

And Punisher is NEVER as tough as Marv. Frank is very damn tough. But I refuse to agree he is tougher than Marv.

See you.

Originally posted by who?-kid
I'll take that as a compliment lol.
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I don't know either. Maybe, maybe not.
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I disagree. Kevin was a good fighter, but nothing out of the extraordinary. He used pressure points and such, but he wasn't durable : a few good hits and he was down. The same can't be said from Punisher.
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Yes, he's been around for more than 30 years in the Marvel Universe and has hundreds of appearances. Marv only a few (his own graphic novel and a few cameos in other comics - read Silent Night, great short story starring Marv)
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Correction : good at dodging bullets fired by uninspired, lame policemen who couldn't hit a cow when they were sitting on one. I'd like to see Marv dodge some of Punishers well aimed shots.
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Let's assume Marv is actually more durable (I am far from convinced, but okay), you still forget one thing: Kevlar. Punisher wears it all the time.

See you.

he isnt more then marv seriously he got electricuted by the mask and he still didnt die then got hit by a machine gun and still servived, got hit with a flame thrower, servived a piano dropped on him, etc etc

He survived a barage of bullets thanks to medical attention

Originally posted by jgiant
He survived a barage of bullets thanks to medical attention

And I'm sure the Punisher can just heal that type of damage with his healing factor right?

Originally posted by Black Adam
And I'm sure the Punisher can just heal that type of damage with his healing factor right?

Punisher would beat Marv. He is faster, stronger, smarter, and his damage soak and durability are at least equal to Marv's. I don't think that Marv has much of a chance of beating Frank.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Punisher would beat Marv. He is faster, stronger, smarter, and his damage soak and durability are at least equal to Marv's. I don't think that Marv has much of a chance of beating Frank.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Let's assume Marv is actually more durable (I am far from convinced, but okay), you still forget one thing: Kevlar. Punisher wears it all the time.[/B]

Kevlar means nothing , marv was ripping apart police who were in full riot gear , kevlar , visors, shields , batons the whole shiznit . And he still beat them all like red headed stepchildren.

That's very true.

I agree that Marv couldn't survive Punisher with full weaponry and all, seeing as he is much more accurate, but if it came to H2H, Marv would win. Punisher would definitely batter him badly, but Marv could take him.

Originally posted by Etrigan
That's very true.

I agree that Marv couldn't survive Punisher with full weaponry and all, seeing as he is much more accurate, but if it came to H2H, Marv would win. Punisher would definitely batter him badly, but Marv could take him.

Originally posted by grey fox
Kevlar means nothing , marv was ripping apart police who were in full riot gear , kevlar , visors, shields , batons the whole shiznit . And he still beat them all like red headed stepchildren.

Originally posted by jgiant
When is punisher never armed? Listen to etrigan...once a marv supporter he has seen the light, punisher kills marv...end of story...

No you overestimate punisher . He is just a very angry skilled human being . He is not the damn batman . He does not walk around every Mountie of every hour of every day armed to the teeth .

Originally posted by grey fox
No you overestimate punisher . He is just a very angry skilled human being . He is not the damn batman . He does not walk around every Mountie of every hour of every day armed to the teeth .

Originally posted by jgiant
Not armed to the teeth, but armed enough to take out this bozo...no he is better than batman...well he did kick azreals ass...

Hey dont push your luck to say that the punisher is better than marv is one thing but to try and say batman as well well thats just plain silly batman is on another level compared to the punisher.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Punisher would beat Marv. He is faster, stronger, smarter, and his damage soak and durability are at least equal to Marv's. I don't think that Marv has much of a chance of beating Frank.

Marv would win IMHO

Originally posted by sexyking
Hey dont push your luck to say that the punisher is better than marv is one thing but to try and say batman as well well thats just plain silly batman is on another level compared to the punisher.

Originally posted by jgiant
When is punisher never armed?

I didn't say that, I said IF PUNISHER WAS FIGHTING H2H rather than with guns. He could still be armed with a knife.

But I do say that Punisher would beat Marv if he had his guns on him. But then again, that didn't stop Marv from taking out a team of six or seven swat team policemen in kevlar, armed with SMGs and shotguns, batons, etc. Then again, Punisher is probably tougher than all of those men put together.

Gaah... I'm torn for choice! Marv is definitely tougher non-weapons wise, but I think Punisher has a pretty good chance anyway...

I'm stuck. Damn...

Originally posted by jgiant
naw...if punisher has prep he could take batman...

Ha, no.

Punisher without prep stands NO chance against Batman.

But we're talking about Marv, not Batman.