Cyborg Episode: BEST CAMEO EVER

What the hell? You're not even reading what I say. You're all over the road like a drunken driver. I know where he gets his powers from, sigh. Read me properly, god damnit!

How am I an hypocrite for challenging your viewpoints and giving my opinion that I think yours are cloudy? I never said it wasn't alright for you to have clouded views. Do I confuse you? I must do, because like I said, you're all over the place.

You continue to fail to challenge my point about the inconsistencies in how Superman/Clark Kent's powers are used throughout the Smallville seasons. How does your "wahh, he's young Clark, he's not as powerful as Superman yet, wahh" hold itself together as a strong statement when Clark's stronger in some episodes than he is in others. He's at his weakest in the cameo episodes and only at his strongest when the "plot" calls for it.

I am not saying Clark is as powerful as Superman. This whole petty argument , Darth, is about Cyborg and any other cyborgs not being as strong as even TEENAGE Clark Kent/Superman (you saw Clark toss the tractor, do the friggin' math and work it out for yourself). Which then developed into plot's calling for changes to Clark's abilities to fit the scene.

Don't give me that crap about being able to hear an ant sneeze in China. Even fully grown maximum pubed Superman couldn't hear that. Jeez. Your perspectives are all wrong. Your views are all cloudy and you can't even address the points I raise without going down the wrong road.

Have another beer.

Pah.

Ok, I see where this lack of understandment is coming in. Do you know about Cyborg from the Comics? Because you're saying no "Cyborg" could be as strong as teenage Clark. Obviously you don't understand that Cyborg from the comics is a 20-40 ton lifter.

Lack of consistency in his powers? Clarks been thrown around by "Meteor freaks" all the time. He was pushed around by the shapeshifter, the baseball players who inhaled the kryptonite smoke, and that freak named Byron. He's not invincible in the series, and it's been shown. That's why I don't understand why you can't comprehend him being back handed into a wall.

And please don't throw insults at me. I have not insulted you, we are having a debate. There's nothing personal about it, so please don't try to make it personal.

Clark being thrown around by meteor freaks and Cyborg is in no way related to the inconsistencies of Clark's strength and abilities, throughout the series. You may think you're supporting your arguments, but you're not. Clark being invulnerable is a completely different topic to the one I'm talking about. I'm talking about 'inconsistencies' and inaccuracies in the way young Superman is portrayed. Remember what I said about challenging the points that I raise, and not the ones you think I'm raising? K.

Cyborg is just a friggin' cyborg. What makes him stronger than other cyborgs then? I didn't see no talk about any special kryptonite juices being pumped into his veins.

You're the one making it personal. How you can sit there and proclaim your innocence is laughable.

Heh.

I win the debate because you fail to stay on-track. I might aswell get into an argument with a drunk off the streets. It's like talking to a brick wall with some forum users. They've got super-humanly dense craniums. Debate ended on Tuesday 21/02/2006 at 23:59.

Pah.

Originally posted by Whos_Pete
Clark being thrown around by meteor freaks and Cyborg is in no way related to the inconsistencies of Clark's strength and abilities, throughout the series. You may think you're supporting your arguments, but you're not. Clark being invulnerable is a completely different topic to the one I'm talking about. I'm talking about 'inconsistencies' and inaccuracies in the way young Superman is portrayed. Remember what I said about challenging the points that I raise, and not the ones you think I'm raising? K.

Cyborg is just a friggin' cyborg. What makes him stronger than other cyborgs then? I didn't see no talk about any special kryptonite juices being pumped into his veins.

You're the one making it personal. How you can sit there and proclaim your innocence is laughable.

Heh.

I win the debate because you fail to stay on-track. I might aswell get into an argument with a drunk off the streets. It's like talking to a brick wall with some forum users. They've got super-humanly dense craniums. Debate ended on Tuesday 21/02/2006 at 23:59.

Pah.

There can't be any 'inconsistencies' and inaccuracies in the way young Superman is portrayed due to the fact this is a whole new universe. I don't really understand why you think everything must be portrayed as it is in the comics, when it's obviously not the comics.

It's funny how you say you argued your points better then me when in fact you haven't. All you've said is your point over and over again. You have yet to state direct parts of the show that would enhance your point. The aqua man scene that you showed was filled with hyperbole. Nothing more. It didn't take him "4 minutes" to charge it up like you said. But yet you say I'm jumping all over the place when I have been arguing one point: Clark is not Superman yet, nor is his powers at top notch. I have shown you instances when Clark has been thrown around before. So don't you dare say I fail to back up my point, when it is you who is the one who fails.

And pray tell who brought Clark's invulnerability into the debate?

Originally posted by Whos_Pete

I win the debate because you fail to stay on-track. I might aswell get into an argument with a drunk off the streets. It's like talking to a brick wall with some forum users. They've got super-humanly dense craniums. Debate ended on Tuesday 21/02/2006 at 23:59.

Pah.

holier than thou, anyone? 🤣

Originally posted by Smallville
A very good episode. But, just out of curiousity, why can't this all be discussed in the SEASON FIVE thread?

I ask again?

Because when I come online and browse forums, I don't want to have to double check to see if a thread already exists for my topic. This requires a bit more effort than just posting a whole new fresh topic that is guaranteed being noticed faster than in an existing old and bloated thread; thus, questions will be answered faster and opinions will be given faster, etc. In other words, as a casual browser and forum user, I do not want to go out of my way. Hypothetic scenario: I work a full time job and already do enough work, I want to chill and do things as easy as possible when on the computer.

🙂

ie; he's lazy or thinks his thread, question or idea needs immediate attention or response

Not at all, Jedi, it's just inconvenient

shit, they had a cyborg episode and i missed it??!! now i'm pissed!!

Originally posted by Whos_Pete
I somehow don't think that Cyborg could throw Superman/Clark Kent around like he did in that episode. He's just a Cyborg, like The Terminator. Superman can push a planet out of orbit and catch (cars, mountains, heh) and throw huge objects (tractors - you any idea how much they weigh?). A Cyborg would NOT be able to toss one of them in the air like that. Cyborg, like The Terminator would get crushed trying to catch somethin like that tractor, and at most, would be able to push or shove the tractor along the ground, slowly.

Superman's powers are toned down (like they are in the video games - energy bar depletes when shot, urgh) for select scenes. If they're going to do cameo episodes, why don't they bring in some superhero that can actually match Superman in terms of strength? Then it wouldn't look so stupid when Clark gets thrown about. I don't know, bring in one of the X-Men. Juggernaut would be a decent match. By the way, Don't give me any crap about licensing and Superman being DC and not Marvel. I already know.

Pah.

Cyborg in the comics tosses Hummers around like toys. Since Season One Clark has been thrown around nearly every episode by people much weaker than Cyborg. If anything, all those instances were stupid and this one makes some sense.

Originally posted by Whos_Pete
Cyborg is just a friggin' cyborg. What makes him stronger than other cyborgs then? I didn't see no talk about any special kryptonite juices being pumped into his veins.

Pah.

It's the way he was created by the writers. They wanted a strong guy who was a cyborg. I'd suggest bringing up this argument with them, because no one on this forum, nor anyone who works for the Smallville show just decided out of the blue that he would be strong.

Can someone in short state what this conversation is about?

It's the way he was created by the writers. They wanted a strong guy who was a cyborg. I'd suggest bringing up this argument with them, because no one on this forum, nor anyone who works for the Smallville show just decided out of the blue that he would be strong.

Nige, what you just said comes across very stupid, because the whole point in a forum is to discuss ideas, and 'views'. To basically, TALK to people about subject matter related to the purpose of the forum. This forum (believe it or not) is about Smallville. And this thread is about Cyborg.

Why would I want to bring up anything with the writers when I can just post in a Smallville related forum? I already know they make the rules up as they go along, and the answer they'd give to any enquiry of mine would be predictable, k.

There's one thing I'd like to make absolutely clear to you, and anyone else reading me in confusion. The purpose to everything I post on here isn't to get answers to questions. I already know everything I need to know, and there isn't a single damn individual who lives here who knows anything I want to know. But, one thing puzzles me. Since when does anyone here decide how strong Cyborg is going to be in the show? Note, although I've put a question mark on the end there, I don't care for an answer, as it's purpose is to get *you*, the reader, thinking about how stupid Nigel was by even suggesting one of *you* has creative control of Smallville.

That was kind of stupid. Like you said "This forum (believe it or not) is about Smallville. And this thread is about Cyborg. " They were stating what they thought the writers were looking for.

Two things:

That was kind of stupid. Like you said "This forum (believe it or not) is about Smallville. And this thread is about Cyborg. " They were stating what they thought the writers were looking for.

Think before you type.

There is no "They", as I was refering to Nige.

Your views have no strong supporting statements, therefore are lacking in sense, and weak (a bit like you). You cannot undermine my points without a strong statement, thus, you are farting in the wind, during your confused state.

Nigel was suggesting I take my point to the writers, and suggested it in a way that makes it seem like posting my point on this forum was pointless. Which, *is* stupid, as my post is no more pointless than anyone elses here. Okay, pretty pointless. But still, Nigel said a very dumb thing there. And nobody with more than just a few braincells can deny that. Did you deny it just then, Kal?

Can someone in short state what this conversation is about?

Go back to sleep, Kal.

Query: how does someone being strong have to do with whether they can be thrown or not? I'd say Clark weighs about 200 lbs. so Cyborg can easily lift and throw 200 pounds, which seems plausible. Why didn't he use his super-speed to avoid it? Well, who was he to know how strong some random guy was? The facts were that there was one obviously upset guy who was trying to push him out of the way. I doubt Clark should have just stood there (which would have broken any normal person's bones).

1. How do you know how much he weighs?
2. Clark should've just stood there, because it's an instant reaction to anyone who's trying to apply force to you. Simple, someone tries to drag you around, you pull the other way. It all happens on instinct.

1. Over 6 feet tall, not immensely overweight. Seems to be around 200 lbs.

2. That's our reaction, yes, but remember, Clark has grown up being especially careful of how he acts in case he harms someone else. Since you brought up his superior speed before, then he probably had the time to assess that he wouldn't be killed from being pushed, and if he held his ground, the other guy would likely be hurt.

1. But he's got an incredibly dense molecular structure, loser. He's no normal human. You cannot make blind guestimations and try to sell them as likely. We'll never know how much Superman weighs unless one of us becomes him. I vote me.
2. Loser, if Clark would've hurled himself that far into the air to look inconspicious, then he needs to re-evaluate his anonimity strategy.

I can't see how he could hurt the guy by remaining static on the ground and watching him tug away at his arm with a confused look on his (Clark's) face. How many times have you tried to sling an adult over your shoulder when you want to play-fight? Loads I bet. And each time you've not been strong enough to shift them, right? Now, wouldn't it look odd to passers by if one of those adults was to hurl himself over your shoulder and go crashing into a brick wall a few metres away? Hah? I'll leave you with that to bare in mind.