Cyborg Episode: BEST CAMEO EVER

Originally posted by Whos_Pete
Nige, what you just said comes across very stupid, because the whole point in a forum is to discuss ideas, and 'views'. To basically, TALK to people about subject matter related to the purpose of the forum. This forum (believe it or not) is about Smallville. And this thread is about Cyborg.

Why would I want to bring up anything with the writers when I can just post in a Smallville related forum? I already know they make the rules up as they go along, and the answer they'd give to any enquiry of mine would be predictable, k.

There's one thing I'd like to make absolutely clear to you, and anyone else reading me in confusion. The purpose to everything I post on here isn't to get answers to questions. I already know everything I need to know, and there isn't a single damn individual who lives here who knows anything I want to know. But, one thing puzzles me. Since when does anyone here decide how strong Cyborg is going to be in the show? Note, although I've put a question mark on the end there, I don't care for an answer, as it's purpose is to get *you*, the reader, thinking about how stupid Nigel was by even suggesting one of *you* has creative control of Smallville.

Wait, where's the part where you made an argument? You called me stupid because I made a point that contradicts what you've been saying. Then you went on to tell everyone that you know all you need to know, and then you moved back to me being stupid for, and this is my favorite part, "suggesting one of *you* has creative control of Smallville."

Never made that claim, never will.

Let me try to pin down what your questions (oh I'm sorry, queries to which you want no answers) are. How is a cyborg strong enough to throw Clark Kent? and Why wouldn't Clark just hold his ground?

You seriously post these things not expecting replies? You refuse to accept the simple answers that are given to you. You bring no quality arguments to the table that support your claims. If you know all you want to know, why are you debating?

If you want to say that it's impossible that a cyborg could throw Clark Kent, go ahead. Then get off the thread because if you can't understand that ITS A TV SHOW, NOTHING IN IT IS BOUND TO OUR SAME TERMS OF REALITY, than it's probably not the best place for you in the first place.

I've said my peace. You'll have any number of unfounded insults, complaints, or maybe even some weak argument to post in reply. Don't expect me to read it.

I never said you were stupid, I said what you said was stupid. There's a difference.

All of what you said is a long whine about being insulted by my views. Well I'm SO SOH-RY if you don't like it. Just because you don't understand the purpose of 'rhetorical' questions (look that word up), doesn't mean there's no 'quality' to my argument. I do support my claims, and have supported my claims. *You* haven't read my posts properly, clearly.

Read this... PROPERLY, then sit down and be sensible. 🙂

Originally posted by Whos_Pete
1. But he's got an incredibly dense molecular structure, loser. He's no normal human. You cannot make blind guestimations and try to sell them as likely. We'll never know how much Superman weighs unless one of us becomes him. I vote me.
2. Loser, if Clark would've hurled himself that far into the air to look inconspicious, then he needs to re-evaluate his anonimity strategy.

I can't see how he could hurt the guy by remaining static on the ground and watching him tug away at his arm with a confused look on his (Clark's) face. How many times have you tried to sling an adult over your shoulder when you want to play-fight? Loads I bet. And each time you've not been strong enough to shift them, right? Now, wouldn't it look odd to passers by if one of those adults was to hurl himself over your shoulder and go crashing into a brick wall a few metres away? Hah? I'll leave you with that to bare in mind.

1. Hmm, so in his entire life no one happens to notice that he weighs way more than he should? For crying out loud, doctors have gotten blood samples off of him; weight is something that can be easily assessed just by say...being under him in any way.

2. I didn't say he hurled himself, I said he allowed himself to be pushed with the amount of force that Cyborg exerted upon his person. And it's not just a matter of static position. If you'd remember, when Clark played a game of 1-on-1 with Lucas Luthor, when Lucas slammed into him, he hurt himself quite a bit. He described it as hitting a steel wall. Perhaps you'd recall the name "Man of Steel"? But a simple elbow is not the same as trying to push someone away with force. Have you ever tried to punch a brick wall with all your strength? I bet it hurt. Furthermore, Smallville's Clark has gotten progressively more invincible over time. In the first season, bullets bruised him. Now, re-entry simply burns away his clothing. So if Clark had held his ground, he would have likely fractured a normal person's arm.

Crazyloozer, I like your sig, can I copy it?

1. Hmm, so in his entire life no one happens to notice that he weighs way more than he should? For crying out loud, doctors have gotten blood samples off of him; weight is something that can be easily assessed just by say...being under him in any way.

Nige was telling everyone how much he weighs and I was basically saying that he doesn't know how much he weighs and shouldn't be basing the rest of his point on his guesswork, because it's stupid. Anyway, Clark can fly (YES HE CAN) so maybe he was floating a bit on the weighing scales or sumit?

2. I didn't say he hurled himself, I said he allowed himself to be pushed with the amount of force that Cyborg exerted upon his person. And it's not just a matter of static position. If you'd remember, when Clark played a game of 1-on-1 with Lucas Luthor, when Lucas slammed into him, he hurt himself quite a bit. He described it as hitting a steel wall. Perhaps you'd recall the name "Man of Steel"? But a simple elbow is not the same as trying to push someone away with force. Have you ever tried to punch a brick wall with all your strength? I bet it hurt. Furthermore, Smallville's Clark has gotten progressively more invincible over time. In the first season, bullets bruised him. Now, re-entry simply burns away his clothing. So if Clark had held his ground, he would have likely fractured a normal person's arm.

I know what you said, I just worded it a bit differently to how you phrased it. Did you watch Superman movies? Watch the one where a car hits him side on and he doesn't move one bit? He wasn't expecting that, was he? Well, he didn't expect Victor to grab him and sling him over his shoulder. I mean, c'mon, who would? When you go to tap someone on the shoulder and say, "hey", do you expect them to sling you a mile in the air? C'mon, be real now.

Random: The one where young Bruce Wayne appeared, that was the best CAMEO episode ever for sure 🙂

1. He (in Smallville so far) does not have control over his gravity defying powers. Furthermore, he'd have to constantly be using them for no one to notice. How many times does someone say...have them in their car, or slide his arm over them, or any such thing? Probably a lot, and that means he has to make sure they don't notice he weighs a lot more than he does. A tough task when he can't always make himself hover...

2. It wasn't a shoulder tap, it was a shove. How do I know this? Pivoting person with rigid shoulder = a shove. If I could see this, then a guy with superspeed obviously could. Furthermore, speed of an arm /= a car.

Originally posted by crazylozer
1. He (in Smallville so far) does not have control over his gravity defying powers. Furthermore, he'd have to constantly be using them for no one to notice. How many times does someone say...have them in their car, or slide his arm over them, or any such thing? Probably a lot, and that means he has to make sure they don't notice he weighs a lot more than he does. A tough task when he can't always make himself hover...

2. It wasn't a shoulder tap, it was a shove. How do I know this? Pivoting person with rigid shoulder = a shove. If I could see this, then a guy with superspeed obviously could. Furthermore, speed of an arm /= a car.

He (in Smallville so far) does not have control over his gravity defying powers.

EXACTLY, but he can fly! There's evidence that he's capable of flight RIGHT NOW in several episodes. That's what I'm getting at. Whilst you and others here are telling me that he's not capable. The reason he's not flying is because he's not making any efforts to learn to fly.

You don't make much sense with everything else you say, but from what I make of it, you're comparing Cyborg's arm to a car. Eh? Let's just put this down to you not understanding what I'm getting at, thus, there's absolutely no point in me trying to elaborate further, as it would zoom over your head. Either way; Car crashing into him = Clark doesn't move, therefore, Cyborg's arm = Clark doesn't move. Perfect logic.

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Originally posted by Whos_Pete

Random: The one where young Bruce Wayne appeared, that was the best CAMEO episode ever for sure 🙂

Bruce appeard on smallville? ive seen every episode but i dont remember seing bruce, maybe i heard him name once but dont remember seeing him

yeah, he appeared in smallville

no he did not

I think id remember seeing him.....but i dont maybe someone just said his name

Kal, you can go ahead.

Who's Pete, my point was that a car is probably more surprising and harder to react to than an blow from an obviously upset and distraught teenager.

On the flying question, I severely doubt many here would agree that Clark can fly, but even if he can now, that doesn't mean he always has been able to. You claimed that he was much heavier than normal people, and that he avoided detection of his extra weight by hovering. If he did, that would mean he would have had to have conscious control over his powers of flight at a very young age, which he did not.

Right now in the show, i do not believe he can fly, i just think its a superjump (like hulk) we have not see him go left and right yet, just up soooo my opinion on that cyborg tossing superman, i dont think he was expecting some random guy to toss him so he wasnt prepared for it which then gave him the ability to toss him, even though, its just how the show wants it and it happened its done and over

Originally posted by Marth18
Right now in the show, i do not believe he can fly, i just think its a superjump (like hulk) we have not see him go left and right yet, just up soooo my opinion on that cyborg tossing superman, i dont think he was expecting some random guy to toss him so he wasnt prepared for it which then gave him the ability to toss him, even though, its just how the show wants it and it happened its done and over

Yeah

and the way Superman fly's (not Smallville yet) he turns all the nuetrons in the air positive or something

I'm just going to say WITHOUT ARGUMENT that I win.

I'll agree for now because I have nothing to back up my argument with but you do.

You win

What did you win?

Originally posted by Marth18
What did you win?

the argument

🙂 heh