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Originally posted by jaden101
Still...You'd need to be lightning quick to hit him. Hence the reason he's never really been badly damaged in a fight. I agree that some of the fights that have went the distance he's been extremely fortunate to get the decision. Happens all the time unfortunately. Mosley doesn't have what it takes to beat Mayweather though. He's getting over the hill too.

Noone wants the fight anyway. Pacquiao will get past Cotto and the only fight that can happen after that is Mayweather vs Pacquiao. Nothing else will get the kind of financial backing that fight will.

I personally don't like Mayweather's boxing style (It's the most boring thing to watch) but I can't deny that he executes that style to devastating effect. He's one of the best defensive and counter fighters ever. I think the only type of fighters who are capable of beating him are those who could overwhelm his defence in the early round with sheer strength and numbers of punches or someone with an unorthodox fast style.

A lot of people don't like him for his attitude and arrogance but it's just showboating to garner interest in his fights. Without it noone would give a shit about his fights regardless of his record because he's a boring fighter.

Mosley is just looking for a pay day and knows that Mayweather would give him it. He doesn't deserve the fight though.

If Pacquiao beats Cotto then he should get the fight as he'll have done something Mosley couldn't and he'll have done it while being a far smaller fighter.

If he doesn't then those Cotto should get the fight.

Vitali defeated Chris

I really want Cotto to win but Pacman is dangerous.

Less than a month to Pacquiao vs Cotto.

Also noticed on boxrec there is a fight scheduled for March for Pacquiao with an as yet TBA opponent....Hopefully it'll be Mayweather Jnr.

I am calling it now before the fight ends. The fix is on for froch.

I knew it. Split decision said it all. Dirrell was sloppy at a few points in the fight but he still did way more than froch. Froch's best punches were either rabbit punches or he just straight hit him on the back of the head. Taylor should hang it up. He got stiffened like a piece of wood.

Originally posted by jaden101
Less than a month to Pacquiao vs Cotto.

Also noticed on boxrec there is a fight scheduled for March for Pacquiao with an as yet TBA opponent....Hopefully it'll be Mayweather Jnr.

I doubt it'll be Floyd. They both want the bulk of the money (60-40) and neither wants to go for a 50-50 split.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
Taylor should hang it up. He got stiffened like a piece of wood.

Hes pretty much done.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
I knew it. Split decision said it all. Dirrell was sloppy at a few points in the fight but he still did way more than froch. Froch's best punches were either rabbit punches or he just straight hit him on the back of the head. Taylor should hang it up. He got stiffened like a piece of wood.

Froch is from the same style as Calzaghe was. He'll rarely ever knock anyone out cause he doesn't have the strength but he can out-box his opponents technically and land more point scoring punches than the other fighter. His problem is he's far too arrogant for someone who hasn't proved themselves at the top tier yet and I think he'll get caught out sooner rather than later. It'll probably actually do him good as it'll sharpen his focus and make him work on his skills rather than his mouthing off. Just like it did with Amir Khan after his 1st defeat.

Originally posted by jaden101
Froch is from the same style as Calzaghe was. He'll rarely ever knock anyone out cause he doesn't have the strength but he can out-box his opponents technically and land more point scoring punches than the other fighter. His problem is he's far too arrogant for someone who hasn't proved themselves at the top tier yet and I think he'll get caught out sooner rather than later. It'll probably actually do him good as it'll sharpen his focus and make him work on his skills rather than his mouthing off. Just like it did with Amir Khan after his 1st defeat.

I used to get accused of British bias on the forum with regards to Hatton and Calzaghe but you won't see me defending Froch. I've never liked him as a fighter in the ring or his attitude outside it. He keeps insisting he's the best but, as you say, Kessler would floor him. As would Pavlik and probably a few others too.

Like I also say. It'd probably do him good to get KO'd.

No offfense, but I never liked Calzaghe's style.

Froch has almost the same technique.. both fighters lack strength, if any.
Not my thing, but that's my opinion. I'm used to seeing more powerpunches than slapping.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
No offfense, but I never liked Calzaghe's style.

Froch has almost the same technique.. both fighters lack strength, if any.
Not my thing, but that's my opinion. I'm used to seeing more powerpunches than slapping.

Few did like Calzaghe's style. Retired undefeated though. Can't take that away from him. Undisputed champion of one of the toughest weight divisions for 10 years. People say he avoided top fighters in their prime but the truth is it was the other way around. Calzaghe called out Jones Jnr 10 years ago and he acted like he didn't know who Calzaghe was...Calzaghe eventually taught him a lesson.

Originally posted by jaden101
Few did like Calzaghe's style. Retired undefeated though. Can't take that away from him. Undisputed champion of one of the toughest weight divisions for 10 years. People say he avoided top fighters in their prime but the truth is it was the other way around. Calzaghe called out Jones Jnr 10 years ago and he acted like he didn't know who Calzaghe was...Calzaghe eventually taught him a lesson.

You heard wrong. They stated that it was because Calzaghe couldn't draw the money they wanted. The well worn excuse of cowardice.

Originally posted by jaden101
You heard wrong. They stated that it was because Calzaghe couldn't draw the money they wanted. The well worn excuse of cowardice.

So basically I got nothin but a bunch of mixed statements from camps that completely contradict eachother.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
I was searching around because I could swear I heard Joe ducked Roy before and well after doing a little searching
- Joe's camp said no one would give him a fight because he wasn't a money maker.
- Roy camp said joe refused him before statues he wasn't ready for Jones yet.
-Joe stayed away from the states and harder competition
- Top competition refused Joe because he was not a draw
-Roy avoided fighting outside the states because of the bumb decision he got in the olympics.

So basically I got nothin but a bunch of mixed statements from camps that completely contradict eachother.

Sven Ottke ducked him for a unification fight. Warren tried to make fights with both Hopkins and Jones and both refused at the time only to rethink once Calzaghe was a bigger draw than they were.

Jones, on the other hand, ducked Frank Liles, Daruisz Michalczewski. Then there was the insistance that he got a 60/40 split against Hopkins that prevented that fight.

Originally posted by jaden101
Few did like Calzaghe's style. Retired undefeated though. Can't take that away from him. Undisputed champion of one of the toughest weight divisions for 10 years. People say he avoided top fighters in their prime but the truth is it was the other way around. Calzaghe called out Jones Jnr 10 years ago and he acted like he didn't know who Calzaghe was...Calzaghe eventually taught him a lesson.

Another one was the early call from his match against Veit.
Referee shouldn't have stopped that match. Veit was still completely conscious and striking back.

The decision of the judges from most of his matches are really questionable, those that he won by UD.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Hopkins got robbed though.
Most boxing expert critics, and the majority audience, agree that Hopkins should've won that match.

Another one was the early call from his match against Veit.
Referee shouldn't have stopped that match. Veit was still completely conscious and striking back.

The decision of the judges from most of his matches are really questionable, those that he won by UD.

A 1st round knockdown doesn't make a decision go in your favour. Let's not forget all Hopkins underhand tactics from that fight. Feigning injury from non existant low blows, for example. Truth is the Calzaghe landed 100 more punches during the 12 rounds than Hopkins. The accusation of dodgy decisions when the fight was in the US is an extreme stretch to say the least.

Anyone see David Haye own the Russian giant Nikolai Valuev last night.
Impressive display of speed and technical boxing, he won on points and nearly knocked the Russian out in the last round.

How the hell the Spanish judge saw a 114:114 is beyond me.

That's not the fight I saw.

I saw Haye barely through any punches. Only a couple of them connected decently, and the one he landed that STAGGERED Valuev wasn't even a punch.

He most certainly didn't own him.

When he fights someone like Klitch or whatever, I can see him getting whooped.

-AC