Originally posted by guy222
nahif manny isn't hiding anything, take the blood test
he took one before, as brian kenny got him to admit on live tv
boxing is one of the most corrupt sports, yet still thrives
b proud manny, take it and fight pretty boy if he defeats steroid mosley
* Manny's camp is willing to take the blood/drug test... but under their terms in date, don't be deceived by Mayweather's style of selecting his opponents just to retain his winning streak... 😉
Originally posted by guy222
nahif manny isn't hiding anything, take the blood test
he took one before, as brian kenny got him to admit on live tv
boxing is one of the most corrupt sports, yet still thrives
b proud manny, take it and fight pretty boy if he defeats steroid mosley
if mayweather's already fighting steroid mosley, then what's the difference? that mosley is an admitted juicer and manny is not? pretty boy is scared.. remeber what happened to cotto's face? that's my prediction with mayweather, because lets face it, mayweather's defense is not like clottey's. and the only reason why clottey's face didn't turn into raw hamburger was that he barely threw a punch, always blocking and shit.. he knows if he threw a punch, there will be an opening for manny's "death by a thousand left fists" move..
manny's over-rated. they compare him to Sugar Ray and Ali when he's never even had a real war in the ring. oh, wait, he did it was against Marquez who he's been ducking ever since. sure, floyd's a pvssy for ducking Manny, but what does that make manny for ducking Marquez? and remember, Manny never convincingly beat Marquez to be going around talking about "this business is over." shit, this business isn't over till you pucker up and actually fight someone who has a chance of beating you.
anyone who has a chance of beating him has all the advantages taken away from him. Cotto and De La Hoya could've beaten him in a good tough fight so what did they do? catchweight. that's the stuff of champs right there. wihle Manny's stuffing his face with 6000cals a day, Cotto's skipping meals to make weight. yeah, that's fair right there. when all that's not bad enough, the hype the whole thing as Cotto's the bigger man. Cotto aint the bigger man. not by a longshot. even Roach said he aint bigger. heck, during the fight Manny was looking bigger than Cotto. the only thing Cotto's got bigger than Manny is fist size and thighs.
oh, and notice how Pac-puss took on Clottey (someone who isn't a hard hitter like Cotto or De La Hoya) and made him fight on regular weight of 147. it's all BS.
oh and please remind me how exactly Pacman got the right to face Cotto for his championship? he moved into that weightclass, barely fought the good fighters (mosley, berto, judah, quintana, williams) but gets a shot at Cotto's title...on a weight that wasn't even the weightclass? Hah!
the sole thing with Manny is Freddy Roach. take Roach away and you'll be watching a one-dimensional guy who's only advantage is that he's totally unorthodox. no defense to speak of, predictable movement (in and out with three or four punches, usually straights). were it not for those awkward unconventional angles he throws them he'd be picking up his jaw from the floor.
and lol at people quoting Bob Arum when they want to prove this guy's greatness? when did Arum become a credible source? the guy's as credible as Don King. Pac-fans are quoting the guy's own PROMOTER to prove he's the greatest...the same promoter who before saying such blasphemous garbage even admitted that he's over-emotional.
as for Mosley, he never admitted that he's a juicer. he said he wasn't aware of what was going on. there's a difference. and mosley's since been testing clean and (now pay attnetion pac fans) he said he'll take any test anytime to prove it. at least he doesn't say such blatant crap like "i'm superstitious". f-ck that shite.
no it proves that if an aged, over-the-hill fighter who barely draws a few thousands to his fights has not been penalized for his obvious steriod usage, the biggest name in the sports and the biggest money draw (manny "juice-man" pacqiao) is not even going to be sneezed on.
Boxing's a bloody joke now.
* yeah, you hate Pacman real tight... 😛
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
manny's over-rated. they compare him to Sugar Ray and Ali when he's never even had a real war in the ring.
* it's wrong to compare Pacman to them… their styles are not even close…
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
oh, wait, he did it was against Marquez who he's been ducking ever since. sure, floyd's a pvssy for ducking Manny, but what does that make manny for ducking Marquez? and remember, Manny never convincingly beat Marquez to be going around talking about "this business is over." shit, this business isn't over till you pucker up and actually fight someone who has a chance of beating you.
* you cherry-picked his match against Marquez because it's one of his low showings… true, he never "convincingly" beat Marquez but iirc he floored him 2-3 times in the early rounds… true, they both given each other power punches which might even fall on Marquez' advantage but did Marquez knock Pacman down? even once? hell no… proves Pacman is still better than Marquez…
* you skipped Hatton, another good fighter, yet Pacman knocked him down AND knocked him out in two rounds…
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
anyone who has a chance of beating him has all the advantages taken away from him. Cotto and De La Hoya could've beaten him in a good tough fight so what did they do? catchweight. that's the stuff of champs right there. wihle Manny's stuffing his face with 6000cals a day, Cotto's skipping meals to make weight. yeah, that's fair right there.
* it's fair because they agreed to continue the fight…
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
when all that's not bad enough, the hype the whole thing as Cotto's the bigger man. Cotto aint the bigger man. not by a longshot. even Roach said he aint bigger. heck, during the fight Manny was looking bigger than Cotto. the only thing Cotto's got bigger than Manny is fist size and thighs.
* 😂 Cotto should look like Ronald McDonalds, bigger fist size and thighs but smaller than Pacman…
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
oh, and notice how Pac-puss took on Clottey (someone who isn't a hard hitter like Cotto or De La Hoya) and made him fight on regular weight of 147. it's all BS.
* how about Hatton?
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
oh and please remind me how exactly Pacman got the right to face Cotto for his championship? he moved into that weightclass, barely fought the good fighters (mosley, berto, judah, quintana, williams) but gets a shot at Cotto's title...on a weight that wasn't even the weightclass? Hah!
* I was wondering that as well… he should start from scratch when he went to a new division…
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
the sole thing with Manny is Freddy Roach. take Roach away and you'll be watching a one-dimensional guy who's only advantage is that he's totally unorthodox. no defense to speak of, predictable movement (in and out with three or four punches, usually straights). were it not for those awkward unconventional angles he throws them he'd be picking up his jaw from the floor.
* Roach is Pacman's gold… but you can't deny Pacman's power punch…
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
and lol at people quoting Bob Arum when they want to prove this guy's greatness? when did Arum become a credible source? the guy's as credible as Don King. Pac-fans are quoting the guy's own PROMOTER to prove he's the greatest...the same promoter who before saying such blasphemous garbage even admitted that he's over-emotional.
* Pacman fanboys… 😄
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
as for Mosley, he never admitted that he's a juicer. he said he wasn't aware of what was going on. there's a difference. and mosley's since been testing clean and (now pay attnetion pac fans) he said he'll take any test anytime to prove it. at least he doesn't say such blatant crap like "i'm superstitious". f-ck that shite.
* Pacman's camp is willing to take the blood/drug test but under their terms in date… 😉
1) don't hate him. He's overrated and I also don't buy his little god-fearing and humble-champion-of-the-people story either. he's gunning to be a politician so even if he ever was a humble, godfearing person the moment he steps up to be a politician he's gonna be reeking with all the BS that makes politics. not to mention that he wouldn't really be getting into the whole thing if he wasn't full of shite.
2) it's wrong to compare pacman to them. period.
3) more knockdown doesn't mean shite. Frazier knocked down Ali in the the legendary 3 fights they had. Ali never knocked him down. does that make Frazier better than Ali? please stop this nonsense. I can understand that you're a pinoy and supporting manny pacriods is a matter of a national pride for you people but i think it's stupid to support someone JUST BECAUSE he's from the same country as you.
4) f-ck ricky hatton. he's a shite fighter with a glass-jaw.
5) cotto agreed to fight because if he didn't fight, they were going to strip him off his title. yeah, that's fair right there. not to mention how ridiculous the whole situation was given that Pacroids never even EARNED that belt. if he earned the right to face Cotto, then fine, but he didn't and even Cotto said he doesn't see why he has to put his belt on the line against Pacroids when Pacroids hasn't even fought the top welterweights yet.
6) Cotto isn't bigger than Pacroids at all. not from any angle or stats. if you want I can post a pic of them standing side by side at the weighin and you can see how "big" Cotto is. Heck, even Nazim Richardson said that the biggest marketting gig that Freddy's cooked up for Pacroids is that "he's a small guy beating bigger guys"...and dumbass Pacroid fanatics are gobbling all the hype without even thinking about it. like you right now. Cotto isn't bigger. surrender the fantasy.
7) what about hatton? hatton sucks. even miguel cotto and freddy roach said he's overrated. oh, and freddy's Pacroids coach, in case you forgot. his own coach is saying that the opponent that he picked for Pacroids is over-rated and not a good fighter! that's "what about hatton" for you.
8) yes, that's been my main point since the beginning. manny should earn the right to face the champ based on who he's beaten....like everybody else. not just jump ahead of the line because bob arum has his lips superglued to his cock.
9) Mosley said he'll take the drug test anywhere anytime. Cotto said he'll take the drug test anywhere anytime. Mayweather said he'll take the drug test anywhere anytime. and they aren't coming up with day-period excuses like Pacroids is. Pacroids is taking peds which is why he's coming up with lame excuses (superstition? haha!) and sending emails to Mayweather camp asking for the whole thing to be pushed under the rugs. if he isn't, why isn't the godfearing, humble, honest and hardworking Pacman doing what other honest, humble and hardworking boxers like Mosley, cotto, Berto, Mayweather are doing?
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
1) don't hate him. He's overrated and I also don't buy his little god-fearing and humble-champion-of-the-people story either. he's gunning to be a politician so even if he ever was a humble, godfearing person the moment he steps up to be a politician he's gonna be reeking with all the BS that makes politics. not to mention that he wouldn't really be getting into the whole thing if he wasn't full of shite.
* fine...
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
3) more knockdown doesn't mean shite. Frazier knocked down Ali in the the legendary 3 fights they had. Ali never knocked him down. does that make Frazier better than Ali? please stop this nonsense. I can understand that you're a pinoy and supporting manny pacriods is a matter of a national pride for you people but i think it's stupid to support someone JUST BECAUSE he's from the same country as you.
* yes, i support him because we're both pinoy... but that's only one reason... over the years, he has grown from an average fighter to a good one and has a nice power left... a southpaw... 😄
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
4) f-ck ricky hatton. he's a shite fighter with a glass-jaw.
* have you seen other fights of Hatton?
Originally posted by Hell Lancer
9) Mosley said he'll take the drug test anywhere anytime. Cotto said he'll take the drug test anywhere anytime. Mayweather said he'll take the drug test anywhere anytime. and they aren't coming up with day-period excuses like Pacroids is. Pacroids is taking peds which is why he's coming up with lame excuses (superstition? haha!) and sending emails to Mayweather camp asking for the whole thing to be pushed under the rugs. if he isn't, why isn't the godfearing, humble, honest and hardworking Pacman doing what other honest, humble and hardworking boxers like Mosley, cotto, Berto, Mayweather are doing?
* i'm seeing it in a different perspective... is Mayweather really fighting someone whose not on steroids? or is he really fighting because he knows he can beat his scheduled opponent? Mayweather camp knows they're in a world of trouble once the match with Pacman ever materializes... Mayweather's winning streak would end... they ain't stupid, they'll find a way to back out from the match with Pacman... if Mayweather's confident he can defeat Pacman, drug/blood tests should not be a big deal... 😉