Silverspider/Dizzle's Team Tournament: Round 2, Fight 3- roughrider vs. stormfront13

okay...too many to quote...so

1)phantazia can sense machinery near her for a couple of miles, she would instantly be able to sense iron-man.

2)she has a range of a couple miles...though i don't have access to the comics she was in so i can't post scans

3)she can pin-point what she wants to shut down. she has before shut down machinery while pyro was in the room and she has also been able to shut down pyro.

4)tonys gene lock won't be able to hit me because all of my characters have a force-field up at the beginning 0f the fight

5)riders strategy is depending wholly on whether or not his genetic locks are working, i on the other hand can still take iron-man down if he is immune. i have shown scans of vindicator affecting people in force-fields.

6)phantazia's ability to affect peoples powers makes her immune to her powers being taken away. it has to do something with always being in sync with em fields that if someone tried to do this, it wouldn't work.

aslo the genetic lock probably won't work because phantazia might not even be a mutant, which was revealed in her last issue of x-froce, but was never clarified.

Maybe not a mutant? She was asked to be part of the Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants.
Force-fields, force-fields yada yada...they're not the be-and-end all. They can be broken through.
All these force fields on, how's SF gonna get his characters through these narrow hallway doors? 😄 And how are they gonna move at such super-speed if he's so worried about making them shielded?
He's doing what he can to get around Tony's GL shot, but he still has his neural scramblers, force containment bubble etc. , Ray still has capability for a great defense with pure light, and Horus can be in the air to swoop down to stun a victim quickly. In this confined area, Thialfi's speed on the ground gives him a good advantage.

Interestingly, both SF's strategy and mine agree on one thing: the battle taking place in my room area. He wants to, because he thinks he has the speed and power to overwhelm my team quickly. I want him to come, because my team will be in position to ambush him and take down a couple characters early - see my opening strategy post. This confined area works for the one waiting for the other to attack; SF's been quite eager to do that.

Long day is over. I wil check with you all tomorrow.

Stormfront: Are Phantazia and Vindicator's powers line of site, or do they have some kind of scanners to pinpoint their targets?

Originally posted by roughrider
Maybe not a mutant? She was asked to be part of the Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants.

yeah, she was never clarified as a mutant, and her actually being a mutant was always being questioned because she wasn't showing up on mutant scanners and they could never find her x-gene. also, you do realize that many non-mutant people have been apart of the brotherhood right? the savage land MUTATES, loreli, spider-woman, and spiral just too name a few. also, sauron was apart of the brotherhood that phantazia was and he wasn't a mutant as well.

forcefields, forcefields yada yada...they're not the be-and-end all. They can be broken through.

yeah, it takes a lot to get through forcefields. hell...even a full force punch from colossus isn't able to get through vindicators shields.

All these force fields on, how's SF gonna get his characters through these narrow hallway doors?

forcefields can be made skin tight..you do know that right?

He's doing what he can to get around Tony's GL shot, but he still has his neural scramblers, force containment bubble etc.

tony will be shut down. you need to post proof that he won't.

he thinks he has the speed and power to overwhelm my team quickly.

i do...i have the reaction time and speed to quickly separate your team.

Stormfront: Are Phantazia and Vindicator's powers line of site, or do they have some kind of scanners to pinpoint their targets?

they both have a scanner type locating ability.

Is it technological or a mental ability?

http://www.geocities.com/phantaziahome/Darkhawk19_1.jpg

^^here eileen(phantazia) is disrupting both pyros gauntlets and powers, seems she doesn't need a beam to disrupt powers or machinery.

http://www.geocities.com/phantaziahome/Darkhawk19_2.jpg

^^here she is just disrupting the guards armor when toad is in the room, and as shown in the picture above she can disrupt powers at the same time. this proves that she can affect only who she wants to.

this doesn't have much to do with the fight, but i love this pic of eileen.

http://www.geocities.com/phantaziahome/HardeeCard.jpg

Originally posted by illadelph12
Is it technological or a mental ability?

well vindicator uses her suit to d it, but Eileen is in sync with the em fields of the earth and can sense and feel people within a few miles radius.

Sorry, i just find that hilarious. 😄

Originally posted by illadelph12
Sorry, i just find that hilarious. 😄

ha ha ha 😆

Originally posted by illadelph12

is that from YTMND?

Originally posted by Scoobless
is that from YTMND?

I'm not sure. A friend of mine had it on MySpace and I couldn't stop laughing.

I wonder if the Truffle Shuffle can deflect energy attacks?

Hmm...

so rider, basically you have nothing going for you.

1)your genetic lock won't work because phantazia isn't even a mutant, and she can bring back the powers of everyone else

2)iron-man is useless because phantazia can shut him down

3)my team is faster than your allowing me to separate everyone on yours

4)the paralyzing eye won't work because phantazia can reverse the affects

5)your team can't hide from me with mimic, vindicator, and phantazia all being able to locate you

6) my team has the strongest person strength-wise here

i mean what else is there?

Stormfront: Do you have proof that Phantazia is not a mutant and her powers are not genetic?

Also, it's come to light that Ironman's armor is demagnetized and protected against EMPs and polarity shifts, so that avenue of attack is very doubtful.

Do you have any proof that Phantazia can reverse the effects of magic and not simply mechanical and bioelectric fields? Horus is an Egyptian God with cosmic and supernatural abilities, afterall. There's a large degree of difference in power scale.

Ultimate Iron Man's genetic lock shot has worked on Green Goblin, Electro and Sandman.
None of whom are mutants.
Try again, SF. 😉

Originally posted by illadelph12
Stormfront: Do you have proof that Phantazia is not a mutant and her powers are not genetic?

Also, it's come to light that Ironman's armor is demagnetized and protected against EMPs and polarity shifts, so that avenue of attack is very doubtful.

Do you have any proof that Phantazia can reverse the effects of magic and not simply mechanical and bioelectric fields? Horus is an Egyptian God with cosmic and supernatural abilities, afterall. There's a large degree of difference in power scale.

That's roughrider's job... Stick to specific questions please.

Originally posted by Dizzle
That's roughrider's job... Stick to specific questions please.

I have been asking questions. Do you mean the "magnetized armor" comment? If so, my bad, my intention was not for that to be interpreted as an interjection into the debate, I was talking to stormfront about how he's going to deal with the problem and misphrased it. Stormfront also claimed Phantazia could reverse Horus's effects, so I asked if he had any scans showing that she could reverse magic so I could take that into account in my judgement.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Stormfront: Do you have proof that Phantazia is not a mutant and her powers are not genetic?

everyone on the brotherhood was talked about being a mutant, except for phantazia and sauron, she never showed up on mutant monitors but it doesn't matter now anyway.

Also, it's come to light that Ironman's armor is demagnetized and protected against EMPs and polarity shifts, so that avenue of attack is very doubtful.

yeah, 616 iron-man is like this...but no one has provided proof that ultimate iron-man is like this, and the fact that he was messed by electricity is even better for my case.

Do you have any proof that Phantazia can reverse the effects of magic and not simply mechanical and bioelectric fields? Horus is an Egyptian God with cosmic and supernatural abilities, afterall. There's a large degree of difference in power scale.

he only paralyzes them, if he has to stay focused on them, then probably not, but then he couldn't paralyze more than one person at a time nd would also be open to attack. if he paralyzed them and then just left them that way, then she can manipulate their specific bioelectric field to un-paralyze them sort of. and by the way...your doing roughriders job.

Ultimate Iron Man's genetic lock shot has worked on Green Goblin, Electro and Sandman.

your the one that said it was only mutants. it still doesn't matter though because phantazia will sense tony and shut him down.