physical violence is never the answer.................now self defense can get a little iffy when it involves the opposite sex I myself am all for self defense regardless but, men do have the shorter end of the stick when it comes to this sitch for the simple fact how this world tends to portray them compared to women. But as for who's to blame there can be and most likely are a lot of pieces to the puzzle that can lead up to this such as an abusive childhood, etc but at the end of the day it's the person who does the hitting and for the record women can be just as violent as men for instance I saw this episode of Dr. Phil once when they were discussing and showing women abuse their husbands physically. No matter who does it to who it's not right and not necessary.
There is a woman here on trial for killing her abusive husband. She was married to him for 17 years, and during that time, he beat her daily, raped her, tied her up and treated her like a sex slave. She had enough and killed him. She's on trial for murder because she wasn't defending herself at the time. It would have been okay if she killed him while he was beating her, or raping her, but the courts are too stupid to realise you can't kill someone when you're being attacked, or raped.
This poor women was tortured for 17 long years, treated like dirt by the man she married, the man she once loved.
I have no sympathy for this man at all, he got what he deserved. This brave woman not only protected herself against the likes of him, she protected other women.
Now she may go to jail for killing him. If she does, it would be as if the courts condone this sort of violence. People seem to think that if you are being abused, you can just leave. It doesn't work like that. Women are tortured, they are told that if they leave, no one will ever love them, everyone hates them. Their self esteem is ripped away, and when they finally break down, have had enough, they get hauled into court and punished.
Pathetic.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Answer my question.So by your rationale it's ok for a woman to take years and years of abuse, without making an attempt at getting out, by killing their way out?
-AC
The U.S. Supreme Court recently passed Battered Woman Syndrome as valid in a court of law. So a woman who shoots her alcoholic husband who beats her on a daily basis was merely acting in self-defense outta fear of her life.
^These cases are particularly common on Indian Reservations.
Originally posted by DiamondBullets
The U.S. Supreme Court recently passed Battered Woman Syndrome as valid in a court of law. So a woman who shoots her alcoholic husband who beats her on a daily basis was merely acting in self-defense outta fear of her life.^These cases are particularly common on Indian Reservations.
Doesn't answer my question. I was asking Makedde if she agrees that it's ok to let things get out of hand then kill your way out, rather than making continual effort, if she believes this is a reasonable course of action. Nobody can answer that but her.
-AC
Originally posted by Makedde
As you are not a woman, you have no idea what it is like to be abused by a man.
What are you, half retarded? Do you know who the number one abuser and muderer of males is? OTHER MEN. In fact, men attack other men MORE than they attack women! Look it up
I'm not saying its right to attack a woman, but women are by no means special in that category. Men are the most violent gender, to anyone and everything
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Answer my question.So by your rationale it's ok for a woman to take years and years of abuse, without making an attempt at getting out, by killing their way out?
-AC
Not when she is told by her abuser that she will be killed if she dares to leave. Her life or her sick **** of a husband?
As I said, these women are so emotionally damaged, they are unable to seek help, they lack the courage.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
What are you, half retarded? Do you know who the number one abuser and muderer of males is? OTHER MEN. In fact, men attack other men MORE than they attack women! Look it up
This is domestic violence, meaning man beating up his wife, not men being randomly attacked by other men.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Doesn't answer my question. I was asking Makedde if she agrees that it's ok to let things get out of hand then kill your way out, rather than making continual effort, if she believes this is a reasonable course of action. Nobody can answer that but her.-AC
Women will often forgive their spouses for hitting them. They pull the 'I love you, it'll never happen again' and women believe it. By the time they'd want to get out, it's too late.
And I see nothing wrong with a woman killing her abusive husband, if she is in fear for her life, and believes she has no other option. It is not her fault she was abused.
Originally posted by Makedde
Not when she is told by her abuser that she will be killed if she dares to leave. Her life or her sick **** of a husband?
Bullshit. How can the man kill her if she's gone far away, informed the police etc? Is he omnipotent?
Originally posted by Makedde
As I said, these women are so emotionally damaged, they are unable to seek help, they lack the courage.
They aren't unable to seek help, they just don't think they can. If they knew they could I'm sure they would.
Originally posted by Makedde
Women will often forgive their spouses for hitting them. They pull the 'I love you, it'll never happen again' and women believe it. By the time they'd want to get out, it's too late.
Wait....why are the women free from blame then? That's a stupid way of dealing with home abuse. If you're stupid enough to believe the "I love you" trick after the man has just turned your face into a hamburger, then you've got serious issues.
Originally posted by Makedde
And I see nothing wrong with a woman killing her abusive husband, if she is in fear for her life, and believes she has no other option. It is not her fault she was abused.
It's not her fault she was abused so as a result it's ok to commit murder if she's had a bad life? Be VERY careful how you answer.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
[B]Wait....why are the women free from blame then? That's a stupid way of dealing with home abuse. If you're stupid enough to believe the "I love you" trick after the man has just turned your face into a hamburger, then you've got serious issues.[B]
^It's called the Honeymoon Phase, and is a regular part of an abusive relationship.
In the U.S., Battered Woman Syndrome is legally defined as a form of phsychosis and is admissable in a court of law. I don't if it is in the UK or Australia.