domestic violence

Started by Alpha Centauri7 pages
Originally posted by Makedde
You are just a pathetic idiot

Watch your manners.

Originally posted by Makedde
who thinks that women can just up and leave an abusive relationship, but you are very much wrong.

I said it's easier than people make it seem. I never said it was EASY. Secondly, you have never been abused, so you would have no clue what abuse is like, using your own words against you.

Originally posted by Makedde
Do you think all the women who kill their abusive husbands wanted to kill them? Of course not, they wanted to leave, but felt they had no choice but to kill in order to be free.

Of course they wanted to kill them, what the hell are you talking about? What kind of stupid, one-sided sexist brain waves are you surfing?

Originally posted by Makedde
And this woman didn't commit murder, eithor, the law says she didn't, so shove it.

So? She killed to get out of a relationship, that's ridiculous but you believe it's good, or right.

Moreover, you've just advanced a level in hypocricy. Remember:

"I don't give a damn about the law"? Now you all of a sudden care about it.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Watch your manners.

I am just showing you the same respect as you have shown me.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I said it's easier than people make it seem. I never said it was EASY. Secondly, you have never been abused, so you would have no clue what abuse is like, using your own words against you.

I don't have to know what it is like to know how horrible it must be.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Of course they wanted to kill them, what the hell are you talking about? What kind of stupid, one-sided sexist brain waves are you surfing?

I am sure they would have prefered to just walk out of there, but couldn't, so killing them was what they believed to be their only option. At least they get rid of those scumbags, glad they at least have the guts to do away with them.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So? She killed to get out of a relationship, that's ridiculous but you believe it's good, or right.

I don't think it's good, I think it's justifiable homicide. She killed him so she could escape him. I congratulate her on having the courage to do that.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Moreover, you've just advanced a level in hypocricy. Remember:

"I don't give a damn about the law"? Now you all of a sudden care about it.

-AC

The law has brains in this instance, the law cares about abused women.

Originally posted by Makedde
I am just showing you the same respect as you have shown me.

I call you an idiot because your posts continually prove such. See below.

Originally posted by Makedde
I don't have to know what it is like to know how horrible it must be.

Yes, you do actually. How dare you be so patronising and hypocritical as to tell people that they don't know and can't comment unless they've been abused, when you haven't even been abused yourself? That's disrespect far beyond anything else I've seen. A woman has been beaten and you say "It's ok, I know what it must be like. Never happened to me, but I know."

This is why I call you stupid.

Originally posted by Makedde
I am sure they would have prefered to just walk out of there, but couldn't, so killing them was what they believed to be their only option. At least they get rid of those scumbags, glad they at least have the guts to do away with them.

There isn't an invisible barrier stopping them from leaving, it's not impossible. It's not easy, but it's not impossible and it entirely depends on the woman.

You are obviously some kind of feminist who believes in female empowerment via killing or something.

Originally posted by Makedde
I don't think it's good, I think it's justifiable homicide. She killed him so she could escape him. I congratulate her on having the courage to do that.

Killing him because it's self-defence and killing him because you just didn't try to get out are two different ball games.

Originally posted by Makedde
The law has brains in this instance, the law cares about abused women.

No, you like the law when it agrees with you. That's what that is.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
There isn't an invisible barrier stopping them from leaving, it's not impossible. It's not easy, but it's not impossible and it entirely depends on the woman.

No barrior, but a man who never lets them out of his sight, who rapes and beats, and abuses daily. Tell me, how does someone escape from a man who never takes his eyes off you, calls you constantly to make sure you are home, threatens to kill you if you dared to leave, and tied you up in the basement each night? How does she leave, huh? Climb out the basement window with her hands tied behind her back?

Originally posted by Makedde
Tell me, how does someone escape from a man who never takes his eyes off you, calls you constantly to make sure you are home, threatens to kill you if you dared to leave, and tied you up in the basement each night? How does she leave, huh? Climb out the basement window with her hands tied behind her back?

You just answered the question yourself:

"Calls you constantly to make sure you are home."

If you're dumb enough to go home instead of going somewhere you know he won't find you, then I have not an ounce of sympathy for you.

Second, not all abuse cases are involved with the woman held hostage, stop blowing things out of proportion.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You just answered the question yourself:

"Calls you constantly to make sure you are home."

If you're dumb enough to go home instead of going somewhere you know he won't find you, then I have not an ounce of sympathy for you.

Second, not all abuse cases are involved with the woman held hostage, stop blowing things out of proportion.

-AC

This case was like that.

So? We're discussing domestic violence.

Not that single case.

-AC

Makedde-
Unless YOU have been in a abusive relationship, you have ABSOLUTELY no room to talk.

I've studied Domestic violence for 5 YEARS, not to mention that I had those books and stories shoved down my throat all my life. You have NO idea what an abusive woman thinks, AT ALL. You're just saying what you THINK a woman in that situation would think.

Many times abused women don't believe they are being abused. They are so conditioned.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Many times abused women don't believe they are being abused. They are so conditioned.

Depending on the type of abuse, that can be true. but 90% of the time they know whats going on

Originally posted by Zebina
Depending on the type of abuse, that can be true. but 90% of the time they know whats going on

why not 91 percent of the time

Originally posted by soleran30
why not 91 percent of the time

why not 89% 🙄

Originally posted by Zebina
why not 89% 🙄

Indeed.........................lol its amazing what people will allow themselves to be put through because they fail to realize they have options.

If a woman would flip on a TV every once in a while they'd realize that they had choices

Originally posted by Zebina
If a woman would flip on a TV every once in a while they'd realize that they had choices

Yeah.

Even more with satellite TV.

Originally posted by Zebina
You have NO idea what an abusive woman thinks, AT ALL. You're just saying what you THINK a woman in that situation would think.

Maybe I have more compassion than any one of you hear, so I can understand what it would be like. Your 5 years study of the subject doesn't prove that women can just up and leave, and even if they do know whats going on, they can't just up and leave, walk out. If you think that, no woman would ever be in an abusive relationship, but so many are, because they can't leave.

Originally posted by Makedde
Maybe I have more compassion than any one of you hear, so I can understand what it would be like. Your 5 years study of the subject doesn't prove that women can just up and leave, and even if they do know whats going on, they can't just up and leave, walk out. If you think that, no woman would ever be in an abusive relationship, but so many are, because they can't leave.

And again that's where you are wrong. THEY CAN. They CHOOSE NOT TO.

I understand why they do, the kids, they're scared of what will happen, etc.

But the truth is THEY CAN LEAVE.

Well many have such low self esteem that they don't think they can do anything on their own. Valueless....don't think anyone else would want them....But there are many different cases.

Yeah, I think many do more for the kids.

They can leave and be tracked down and killed, you mean? Why leave when leaving places your life in danger?

Originally posted by Makedde
They can leave and be tracked down and killed, you mean? Why leave when leaving places your life in danger?
Yeah, I knew of a couple cases like that. One woman went to a crisis shelter....The other was murdered.