Revan, Malak, and Ulic vs Exar Kun

Glentract and Zephaniel make excellent points.. Btw you're not proving anything when you say "Well Kun could have done this and this and this too".

As for 1000 of the senate being weaklings, sure possible, but Exar could still freeze them and all bodyguards in place as he slaughtered the Chancellor, then some jedi,

Just another tidbit.

Even if Exar froze 15,000 people, it still isn't that impressive of a feat next to Joruus C'baoth, who was able to take control of at least 37,000 people. I say at least because as I was re-reading the Thrawn books today, there was indication that he was controlling several of the Chimera's support ships too.

Yea I read all the Thrawn books and he was indeed controlling the Chimera. From the books he seemed very powerful.

Controlling someone would indicate he was forcing them to do things against their will. That is not the case. Battle meditation is not control.

IKC have you read the Thrawn Trilogy? C'Baoth was controlling the ships and at points controlling the entire crew.

Yes, I've read the Thrawn trilogy. Was he forcing them to do things against their will? No.

And let's not underestimate the Senate membership. For all we know, it's in the millions, especially when you consider evidence from the PT that even non-member-world entities like the Trade Federation had delegates.

IKC, he did use battle meditation on tens of thousands of people, but I am talking about when he litteraly took control of all 37,000 people on the Chimera. He took over their minds so forcefully that many of them had to go to the miedcal area.

Yea Glentract that's exactly what I'm talking about.

tdtd, you need to not straddle the fence and troll so damn much. It's annoying.

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Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
IKC, he did use battle meditation on tens of thousands of people, but I am talking about when he litteraly took control of all 37,000 people on the Chimera. He took over their minds so forcefully that many of them had to go to the miedcal area.

And Kun outdoes him by taking control of and freezing a Senate of more beings, most of whom are aliens whose minds work differently.

Actually, the narration describes it as the Senate being "forced to watch and not react." That's control, right there.

As I said, the Senate potentially has millions of members. Joruus' feat is of a smaller scale.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
IKC, he did use battle meditation on tens of thousands of people, but I am talking about when he litteraly took control of all 37,000 people on the Chimera. He took over their minds so forcefully that many of them had to go to the miedcal area.

And Kun outdoes him by taking control of and freezing a Senate of more beings, most of whom are aliens whose minds work differently.

Actually, the narration describes it as the Senate being "f

Originally posted by IKC
And Kun outdoes him by taking control of and freezing a Senate of more beings, most of whom are aliens whose minds work differently.

Actually, the narration describes it as the Senate being "forced to watch and not react." That's control, right there.

As I said, the Senate potentially has millions of members. Joruus' feat is of a smaller scale.

Joruus controlled the 37,000 people on the Chimera, but there were the many support ships. The number of people he was controlling is actually far more then 37,000, we just don't know the exact number, so 37,000 is a good lower limit. And making someone watch something is a lot easier then planning to control people for at minimum five days(the transit time from where they were to Coruscant, which he wanted to attack). It was only when he realized that he was going to have to control all of those minds for all of that time that he changed his mind.

Joruus controlled the 37,000 people on the Chimera, but there were the many support ships.

Glentract - "Oh shit, I'm losing at my favorite subject - feat wars! I'd better pull something new out of my ass!"

The number of people he was controlling is actually far more then 37,000, we just don't know the exact number, so 37,000 is a good lower limit.

Just like we don't know the exact number for Kun's. I'll leave it at one million for a "good lower limit."

And making someone watch something is a lot easier then planning to control people for at minimum five days(the transit time from where they were to Coruscant, which he wanted to attack).

Oh, it's a lot easier why? Because you said so?

Wrong, hyperspace transit time, even across the galaxy, is invariably same-day. See Mr. Wong. That stuff's retconned.

t was only when he realized that he was going to have to control all of those minds for all of that time that he changed his mind.

What? So he didn't actually do it? Then what the **** are you talking about?

It doesn't matter, Kun still outperformed him.

IKC you haven't proven that Kun outperformed him you're just being biased towards your favorite character. Your "Kun is the best the end" mentality is getting a little ridiculous. You've made excellent points in other threads to shut me up but lately it's been nothing but fanboyism. I'm sure we can ASSUME that there were millions of beings in the senate but as it is shown in the comic book and the Thrawn Trilogy, C'Baoth's accomplishment seems a lot greater on paper.

tdtd, your "I'm going to troll the Star Wars versus forum despite not knowing shit" mentality is getting a little ridiculous.

How the **** is Joruus' "achievement" better? Kun did the same thing on a much more massive scale.

On paper controlling the entire crew and its ships is more impressive than freezing a senate chamber. And I can "troll" around to gain information, that's my right, you're just being an old fashioned fanboy.

Uh, on-panel controlling the entire senate of millions of members by "forc(ing) them to watch and not react" is the same feat on a much greater scale. Apparently you need to learn how to read.