Venom, Carnage & Toxin VS Juggernaut & Hulk

Originally posted by grey fox
No ,we expect logic . Not fan-boyness . Man I'd love to see a thread between you and wolverine8888 . It would probably go something like this

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Samishee-Venom takes over wolverine

8888- But teh clwas , vemon totally got his ass kikced by wolverne before logan can do i't agan

I wanna make one thing clear! I'm NOT sayin Venom can't be defeated or Venom the strongest or blah blah... I only argue with those people who say "Hulk kills him with one punch" or "Supes takes him and drops him into the orbit". My point is that writers let Venom take hits from Hulk and keep the fight, they let Venom to beat Supes and let him to defeat Juggernaut. And there is nothing you can do about it only because you don't like it. Just accept it.

Originally posted by samishe
I wanna make one thing clear! I'm NOT sayin Venom can't be defeated or Venom the strongest or blah blah... I only argue with those people who say "Hulk kills him with one punch" or "Supes takes him and drops him into the orbit". My point is that writers let Venom take hits from Hulk and keep the fight, they let Venom to beat Supes and let him to defeat Juggernaut. And there is nothing you can do about it only because you don't like it. Just accept it.

Why do you keep bringing up the superman fight? You do know it's not canon. So it doesn't count in arguments....

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
spider man always beats venom but not because he is strnger because spider man has to win he is good guy venom is a villain venom could kill him with ease but then there will be no spiderman cmics or juggernaut could kill the x-men easily first he kills prof-x then jean grey after that they can't do anything to him but juggernaut has to be beaten by x-men because he is a villain and if he kills the x-men there will be no more x-men comics DO YOU GET THE POINT?

Yeah sure i do. Just like you said spider-man can't beat Venom with his bare hand, so in comix if he needs to beat him he uses help or Sonic gun. He never outfights him.

Originally posted by samishe
I wanna make one thing clear! I'm NOT sayin Venom can't be defeated or Venom the strongest or blah blah... I only argue with those people who say "Hulk kills him with one punch" or "Supes takes him and drops him into the orbit". My point is that writers let Venom take hits from Hulk and keep the fight, they let Venom to beat Supes and let him to defeat Juggernaut. And there is nothing you can do about it only because you don't like it. Just accept it.

I can accept the hulk thing , i have no problem with that .

The supes though isn't canon , and you and j-venom keep on saying Juggernaut like it's a victory , all he did was punch the guy until he left saying he wasn't paid to fight anyone.

Originally posted by Black Adam
Why do you keep bringing up the superman fight? You do know it's not canon. So it doesn't count in arguments....

Ok don't count it.

Originally posted by grey fox
I can accept the hulk thing , i have no problem with that .

The supes though isn't canon , and you and j-venom keep on saying Juggernaut like it's a victory , all he did was punch the guy until he left saying he wasn't paid to fight anyone.

He said "I'm gettin OUTTA here. I don't get paid enough to take this kinda abuse".

Originally posted by samishe
He said "I'm gettin OUTTA here. I don't get paid enough to take this kinda abuse".

Yeah he wasn't paid to get punched by a being above natural human strength , because if he's above N-H then that means juggs actually has to do some work to kill venom , and juggs is a lazy bastard.

Originally posted by samishe
He said "I'm gettin OUTTA here. I don't get paid enough to take this kinda abuse".

All you said was Juggernaut has been beaten in the ast well Venom doesn't have the things that can beat Juggernaut AKA telepathy or magic.

Originally posted by newjak86
Yeah Juggernaut left of his own free will you still haven't said how Venom beats Juggernaut if Juggernaut leaves.

All you said was Juggernaut has been beaten in the ast well Venom doesn't have the things that can beat Juggernaut AKA telepathy or magic.

Listen, scan through this 20 pages, it've been said by me and by others for many times, i'm just tired of repeating same things.

Originally posted by samishe
Listen, scan through this 20 pages, it've been said by me and by others for many times, i'm just tired of repeating same things.

Originally posted by grey fox
Yeah he wasn't paid to get punched by a being above natural human strength , because if he's above N-H then that means juggs actually has to do some work to kill venom , and juggs is a lazy bastard.

You know. If Juggernaut is that unstopable and undefeatable then he is supposed not to give a f!@k whom he is fighting with. Never mind is it Shoker or Hulk he's supposed to deal with them easily, not run away.

People really cannot stand that Venom beat Juggernaut and the comic was canon.

Originally posted by newjak86
Maybe so but please humor and tell me how Venom beats Juggernaut and if it is sound I will concede.

No you willn't.

Originally posted by grey fox
Yeah he wasn't paid to get punched by a being above natural human strength , because if he's above N-H then that means juggs actually has to do some work to kill venom , and juggs is a lazy bastard.

totally he would rather just do the "hibbity-dibbity" with she-hulk than sit around and let venom punch him till venom passes out from exertion!

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8518/jugshehulk5bz.jpg

Juggy already got beat by Venom so just read the comic to find out how he lost. LOL

Originally posted by samishe
You know. If Juggernaut is that unstopable and undefeatable then he is supposed not to give a f!@k whom he is fighting with. Never mind is it Shoker or Hulk he's supposed to deal with them easily, not run away.

Originally posted by Jvenom
Juggy already got beat by Venom so just read the comic to find out how he lost. LOL

Originally posted by newjak86
Normally he doesn't run away which is another reason this is weird as he he has fought people way stronger than Venom and not care.
And like I said if you can give me a viable option to how Venom could realistically win I will agree unless I know for some reason it won't work.

We both know Juggy can't be koed or killed. I say that the other way for Venom to defeat Juggernaut is that what you most likely will call PIS or CIS.
If they fought somwhere in the bridge Venom could push Juggy off it so Juggernaut would stay for hours underwater(i call it a win).

Originally posted by samishe
We both know Juggy can't be koed or killed. I say that the other way for Venom to defeat Juggernaut is that what you most likely will call PIS or CIS.
If they fought somwhere in the bridge Venom could push Juggy off it so Juggernaut would stay for hours underwater(i call it a win).

Originally posted by newjak86
So basically what your saying is without outside help of some sort Venom can't win a straight up H2H fight 😉

Well... if you call bridge an outside help then yes. This case not only Venom can't beat Juggernaut but team made of 50 Supermen and 50 Hulks can't beat him since Juggy is immortal.