Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
If anything, Juggernaut purposely took a dive.[b]
The Supermen... How could he possibly beat 500 Supermen? Although not as crazy as pre-crisis, Superman still does whatever he wants.
Ok now try to give me any scenario of how Supermen beating Juggernaut.
Throwing him into space or destroing the planet doesn't count coz it willn't knock him down. If Juggernaut rans away it doesnt count as win either. And no telepathy.
Scenario please.
Originally posted by samishe
Ok now try to give me any scenario of how Supermen beating Juggernaut.Throwing him into space or destroing the planet doesn't count coz it willn't knock him down. If Juggernaut rans away it doesnt count as win either. And no telepathy.
Scenario please.
You said that you'll only believe that Venom defeated Juggernaut if he knocked him down or killed him. But not even 500 Supermen could kill him, but it doesn't mean they can't win. They could only make him run away and it will be counted as victory. So when Juggernaut ran from Venom it also was a victory.
Originally posted by samishe
You said that you'll only believe that Venom defeated Juggernaut if he knocked him down or killed him. But not even 500 Supermen could kill him, but it doesn't mean they can't win. They could only make him run away and it will be counted as victory. So when Juggernaut ran from Venom it also was a victory.
Stop trying to manipulate the situation to give venom a win samishee it makes you look like 8888
Originally posted by samishe
You said that you'll only believe that Venom defeated Juggernaut if he knocked him down or killed him. But not even 500 Supermen could kill him, but it doesn't mean they can't win. They could only make him run away and it will be counted as victory. So when Juggernaut ran from Venom it also was a victory.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
No I didn't. I consider many things a win. I even accept that Spiderman beat Juggernaut but it was very circumstantial and pretty far fetched. But to say Juggernaut ran from Venom in fear is just ignorance of the character.
Why then people here are trying to convince me that there is no other way Venom can defeat Juggernaut exept of knocking him down?
Originally posted by samishe
Why then people here are trying to convince me that there is no other way Venom can defeat Juggernaut exept of knocking him down?
Originally posted by samishe
You just admited that there are other ways.
By the way, Spiderman's win was also crap. He tricked Juggernaut into falling into a cement pit and for some reason he couldn't get out. A)Why would you sink in cement? B) Juggernaut can "walk" in directions where he has no foothold (he continued advancing when being levitated by Jean Grey) C) Juggernaut has been encased in tougher things and has gotten out in seconds.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I think they're crazy. Really, there is no way for Venom to defeat Juggernaut in a straight fight. When you have a wide range of powers, like Dr. Strange or Green Lantern or something, you *do* have multiple ways of defeating opponents. Venom is nothing about a webslinging brawler and Juggernaut, and Hulk, are both better at it.
Then you are saying that no one can defeat Juggernaut in a straight figh, not even superman not 500 supermen?
Originally posted by samishe
Then you are saying that no one can defeat Juggernaut in a straight figh, not even superman not 500 supermen?
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Well, no. He has exploitable weaknesses. Mainly, suscepability to magic and telepathy, but he's also one dimensional. He's *just* a brick, but a very good one. Superman has enough abilities that he could put Juggernaut in a situation where he either wouldn't escape or would take an unreasonable amount of time to return from and thus would be Superman's win. Venom doesn't have the power to match that.
Then if even 500 Superman cant beat Juggernaut h2h then what do you expect from Venom? He made Juggernaut run from him and it was a victory, not knockout but victory.
And about situation where it would take Juggernaut a lot of time to return. I mentioned it before. If Venom and Juggernaut fought in the bridge for examle, Venom could push Juggy over. I consider it would be a victory since it would take Juggernaut hours to return.
Originally posted by samishe
Then if even 500 Superman cant beat Juggernaut h2h then what do you expect from Venom? He made Juggernaut run from him and it was a victory, not knockout but victory.
And about situation where it would take Juggernaut a lot of time to return. I mentioned it before. If Venom and Juggernaut fought in the bridge for examle, Venom could push Juggy over. I consider it would be a victory since it would take Juggernaut hours to return.
I'm sure Juggernaut can swim.... besides, I was talking about putting him in orbit around something, shooting him down into the center of the Earth, throwing him into the sun, or putting him on the moon or something similar.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Venom didn't make Juggernaut do anything. If it wasn't for the girl, Juggernaut either would of beaten Eddie down again or killed him.[b]
I'm sure Juggernaut can swim.... besides, I was talking about putting him in orbit around something, shooting him down into the center of the Earth, throwing him into the sun, or putting him on the moon or something similar.
At the end of Madness it didn't sound like he's runing away because of a girl, it was obvious that he was running from Venom.
And Juggernaut can't swim, he'll have to walk underwater till he gets to the cost. Anyway i brought that bridge argument because Newjack was trying to convince me that throwing Juggernaut to space or making him stick somwhere doesn't count as win.