Originally posted by samisheThe bridge would be considered PIS plot induced stupidity basically meaning that without some set of circumstances outside of Venom's normal powerset would be needed to beat Juggernaut and Venom can't do it on his own.
Well... if you call bridge an outside help then yes. This case not only Venom can't beat Juggernaut but team made of 50 Supermen and 50 Hulks can't beat him since Juggy is immortal.
Originally posted by newjak86
The bridge would be considered PIS plot induced stupidity basically meaning that without some set of circumstances outside of Venom's normal powerset would be needed to beat Juggernaut and Venom can't do it on his own.
Then no one can. If superman fought Juggernaute the only way for him to win would be dropping him into orbit. He can't beat him h2h cos with his normal powers. So this would PIS too?
Originally posted by samisheActually flying is part of his powers so flying him away if he can do it is an option Venom managing to throw Juggernaut off a bridge is a case where the enviroment helps him out not his powers.
Then no one can. If superman fought Juggernaute the only way for him to win would be dropping him into orbit. He can't beat him h2h cos with his normal powers. So this would PIS too?
Originally posted by newjak86
Actually flying is part of his powers so flying him away if he can do it is an option Venom managing to throw Juggernaut off a bridge is a case where the enviroment helps him out not his powers.
plus for that reason no one really likes seeing Juggernaut put in these fights becuase really no one can really beat him like this who is just straight up all physical powers.
Lifting juggernaut and throwing him is part of Venom strength too, just like Supes. But in case of Venom he drops him from the bridge and Supes to the space, no difference. Bridge and Space are environmental factors. So it's still a win.
Originally posted by samisheActually a little different as Supes can fly anywhere on the planet and can thus move Juggernaut anywhere so that the fight is over whether that be spac or the middle of the ocean Venom can't do that the avalability has to be there meaning the bridge has to be there Venom can't carry Juggs to the bridge if he is in the desert.
Lifting juggernaut and throwing him is part of Venom strength too, just like Supes. But in case of Venom he drops him from the bridge and Supes to the space, no difference. Bridge and Space are environmental factors. So it's still a win.
Dude Juggernaut already stomped out Venom in that same series. When he was done he Eddie was jsut a black pile of goo on the floor.
He didn't beat Juggernaut he just ran away. If Juggernaut was bleeding or torn up or soemthing then you would acutally have a reason to sayt hat Venom might be too much for Juggernaut. But for plot reasons Juggernaut ran off.
The point is that, that is what a beating looks like not some stuff where Juggernaut left.
If Juggernaut was hittign Venom to no effect but he diecided to run off you wouldn't say he had lost so don't be ridiculous.
Originally posted by newjak86
Actually a little different as Supes can fly anywhere on the planet and can thus move Juggernaut anywhere so that the fight is over whether that be spac or the middle of the ocean Venom can't do that the avalability has to be there meaning the bridge has to be there Venom can't carry Juggs to the bridge if he is in the desert.
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Ok, imagine that Juggernaute is fighting with Superman. Give me any situation where Juggernaut loses to him, but no TP. and no situations where he stucks anywhere(like in water, or in the space).
Originally posted by Warmonger
Dude Juggernaut already stomped out Venom in that same series. When he was done he Eddie was jsut a black pile of goo on the floor.He didn't beat Juggernaut he just ran away. If Juggernaut was bleeding or torn up or soemthing then you would acutally have a reason to sayt hat Venom might be too much for Juggernaut. But for plot reasons Juggernaut ran off.
The point is that, that is what a beating looks like not some stuff where Juggernaut left.
If Juggernaut was hittign Venom to no effect but he diecided to run off you wouldn't say he had lost so don't be ridiculous.
Juggernaute can't be bleeding or knocked out. Venom was throwing him around till he ran away, and the reasons why he ran away is obvious, he was just embarased that someone like Venom tossing him around like this. I call it a victory. Because no one can KO Juggernaut not even Superman.
Originally posted by samishe
Juggernaute can't be bleeding or knocked out. Venom was throwing him around till he ran away, and the reasons why he ran away is obvious, he was just embarased that someone like Venom tossing him around like this. I call it a victory. Because no one can KO Juggernaut not even Superman.
Originally posted by samishe
Ok, imagine that Juggernaute is fighting with Superman. Give me any situation where Juggernaut loses to him, but no TP. and no situations where he stucks anywhere(like in water, or in the space).
LET THE DAMN THREAD DIE ALREADY......
Originally posted by samishe
Juggernaute can't be bleeding or knocked out. Venom was throwing him around till he ran away, and the reasons why he ran away is obvious, he was just embarased that someone like Venom tossing him around like this. I call it a victory. Because no one can KO Juggernaut not even Superman.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Juggernaut leaving the battle was a complete plot device. You're talking about the guy who wanted to fight Eternity. Why would he run from a man in an alien suit when he was willing to fight the personification of the universe?
It was a win for Venom anyway.
ok tell me who would win in battle between Juggernaout and 500 Supermen? Just answer this question.
Originally posted by samishe
It was a win for Venom anyway.
ok tell me who would win in battle between Juggernaout and 500 Supermen? Just answer this question.
The Supermen... How could he possibly beat 500 Supermen? Although not as crazy as pre-crisis, Superman still does whatever he wants.