Originally posted by grimify
I remember KP beating Cap because he took him by surprise with his agility and Cap didn't recover, that's about it.Spidey gets chumped by humans constantly, nothing new.
KP wouldn't be able to take Cap by suprise with his speed and agility, unless KP was extremely fast and agile. Spidey chumpS a lot more humans than he gets chumped by
You could do yourself a big favour by reading Kingpin's respect thread
Originally posted by BUSTER1
KP wouldn't be able to take Cap by suprise with his speed and agility, unless KP was extremely fast and agile. Spidey chumpS a lot more humans than he gets chumped by
You could do yourself a big favour by reading Kingpin's respect thread
It's more the fact that he's so large and Cap didn't expect him to be agile. Cap would wreck classic KP, too.
I don't need to read the respect thread, I'm well aware that he's got some good strength feats, smashing concrete, using a heavy barbell to fight with, etc...
None of which is something Batman hasn't encountered and beaten.
Originally posted by grimify
It's more the fact that he's so large and Cap didn't expect him to be agile. Cap would wreck classic KP, too.I don't need to read the respect thread, I'm well aware that he's got some good strength feats, smashing concrete, using a heavy barbell to fight with, etc...
None of which is something Batman hasn't encountered and beaten.
Originally posted by BUSTER1
The fact that he surprised Cap and caught, and has kept up with Spiderman means that Classic KP' speed level is very high-he is faster and stronger than Bruce. With his martial art ability and durability he is too much for Batman. I am refering to classic Fisk, by the way, not current.
So classic KP is tougher than anyone else Batman has beaten?
Originally posted by grimify
trick question, batman doesn't lose.
And would you like to compare feats between Bat's and the likes of Captain America and Spiderman to support your claim that Bat's is tougher than they are?
Originally posted by darthgooberThey were avatars or copycat vigilantes. Batman wins.
Ever? So you're telling me that if I go looking, I won't be able to find a single loss on Batman's record...And would you like to compare feats between Bat's and the likes of Captain America and Spiderman to support your claim that Bat's is tougher than they are?