Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The word amazing is a comparison. Amazing when compared with what? Because I say that the occurrence of life on this planet is not amazing does not take away from the beauty and marvelous splendor that is the universe. On the contrary, I call this words we live in, heaven.
If you think life here is heaven... why is there bad and evil stuff going on all the time? Heaven will be so much better than life here... don't you want to go?!
Originally posted by soleran30
Nope the choices you will make have already been made..............God knows all. So wether you do or you don't it was meant to be cuz God already knows you did it hence free will is an illusion for man to believe what he is doing is his own but for God you have already lived your whole life🙂Anyway back to creation.....................man might just be here because God just wanted an antfarm.............hehe I poke fun obvioulsy.
So, you believe that everything you do is because God already predestined it to happen? That seems like the easy way out to me... like saying it's okay when you lie and hurt other people and lust and even if you murdered or committed adultery or robbed a bank. Because, after all, you are saying that you didn't choose to do those things, it was chosen for you to do them. I know that I have sinned, uncountable times, and I blame no one but myself.
Originally posted by MicahLynn
So, you believe that everything you do is because God already predestined it to happen? That seems like the easy way out to me... like saying it's okay when you lie and hurt other people and lust and even if you murdered or committed adultery or robbed a bank. Because, after all, you are saying that you didn't choose to do those things, it was chosen for you to do them. I know that I have sinned, uncountable times, and I blame no one but myself.
Nope God is your belief I was just saying that out loud for you🙂 Accountablility is a big part of accepting and working twards being a better person for yourself and others around you.
As well you should take accountability absolutely for your "sins." God already knows all the sins you will live and do and ask forgiveness for and as such his omnibenevolence has already forgiven you for it🙂
Man made God, God made Universe, God made Man............
Originally posted by MicahLynn
I don't know what rabbi told you that or why... but Jesus was fully divine and fully human, which is a hard concept for the human mind to grasp. He had to be fully human, yes, I'll agree with the rabbi, but I don't know where he got the part about he couldn't be divine. There are actually terms for those beliefs, which I recently studied in my Worldview class. John 1:1-3 & 14 says, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through Him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made....The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." If you believe in God, why do you doubt that He would care enough to send His Son to die for you? Why do you doubt that He is powerful enough to raise Him from the dead. Please read: "Case for Christ" and Case for Faith" by Lee Strobel, a former aetheist. He tried to disprove Christianity and in his quest actually proved it. I know it may seem redundant for this is probably the third time that I have recommended these books, but they will help answer any questions you might have. If nothing else, they will help you understand why Christians believe what they do.
I don’t believe in the original sin, angles, ghosts or the virgin birth myth.
I don’t believe that God sent his only son to die on the cross. First, God is not a he, second, God does not have an only son, third, God does not intercede into our lives in that way. How God is involved in our lives is life its self. We live in God and because of God, but God does not do, we do. I am the son of God just as much as Jesus was, and you are the daughter of God, and are all human, and divine, just like Jesus. We will all rise again in new bodies when we die, because we always return, it is called reincarnation.
Originally posted by MicahLynn
If you think life here is heaven... why is there bad and evil stuff going on all the time? Heaven will be so much better than life here... don't you want to go?!
Funny thing about heaven, it can be hell just as fast.
to soleran30 and shaky, i just have one point to make. The difference between what you all believe and what I believe is huge... we have established that already. But the biggest difference is our reason behind trying to get each other to believe what we believe. I sincerely want you to know God as I do, that He might save you from your sins. I want what is best for you both, even though I don't know you at all. I want all people to know the love and peace that only God can offer us. What is your reasoning behind trying to make me change my mind about things?
Originally posted by MicahLynn
to soleran30 and shaky, i just have one point to make. The difference between what you all believe and what I believe is huge... we have established that already. But the biggest difference is our reason behind trying to get each other to believe what we believe. I sincerely want you to know God as I do, that He might save you from your sins. I want what is best for you both, even though I don't know you at all. I want all people to know the love and peace that only God can offer us. What is your reasoning behind trying to make me change my mind about things?
I don’t want you to change your beliefs. I simply want you to keep in mind that other people can take what you say as an offence. Like the old saying goes, you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. There are many people here who find my beliefs strange, but I try not offend anyone (although I do from time to time).
Originally posted by MicahLynn
to soleran30 and shaky, i just have one point to make. The difference between what you all believe and what I believe is huge... we have established that already. But the biggest difference is our reason behind trying to get each other to believe what we believe. I sincerely want you to know God as I do, that He might save you from your sins. I want what is best for you both, even though I don't know you at all. I want all people to know the love and peace that only God can offer us. What is your reasoning behind trying to make me change my mind about things?
If you don't want to change your mind I don't want you to. I am only expressing my opinion based on what I know and have experienced. Sometimes we need to look past what we are taught to better appreciate and understand what we feel to be true.
Originally posted by MicahLynnbut what you consider to be a sin aint sins in the eyes of others
I sincerely want you to know God as I do, that He might save you from your sins.
Originally posted by MicahLynnwhy should you have more right to try to change peoples minds than the ones you adress here
I want all people to know the love and peace that only God can offer us. What is your reasoning behind trying to make me change my mind about things?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
there u go again, blindly believing in organized relegion n killin ur own potential to THINK. the universe MIGHT or might not be infinite spatially. but even if it is, there are scientifically an infinite number of other universes. matter can both be created and most DEFINATELY can be destroyed. the universe is not omnipotent infinite is no longer a criteria for all powerful. the universe relies on space and time its not omnipotent, it is limited. its only your CONCIOUNCE{if u wanna call it soul, do so} that is truly limitless. well potentially anyway, but the more u get into FOLLOWING relegion n stuff, specially organised relegion, or limitin urself to spheres where things may vary but are bound by limitations and rules{god, omnipotence, heaven, hell, relegion bible etc} THAS when u start destroying that limitless potential.
How can the universe be infinite while having multiverses, matter can not be created or destroyed so the universe wasn't created, space and time is part of the universe it isn't seperate and I'm not part of any organized religion I though I study it.
Originally posted by Blue nocturne
How can the universe be infinite while having multiverses, matter can not be created or destroyed so the universe wasn't created, space and time is part of the universe it isn't seperate and I'm not part of any organized religion I though I study it.
lol. u should study mathematics a little more. infinity multiplyed by infinite gives, INFINITY! the universe is not infinite, its finite but is curved onto itself which is why it seems to have no end, the universe is PART of the multiverse. and i ASSURE you that matter can both be created and destroyed. when a nuclear bomb explodes matter is DESTROYED which is WHY so much energy is released havent you ever heard of einstien's equation E=Mc square ?
Originally posted by finti
but what you consider to be a sin aint sins in the eyes of others
why should you have more right to try to change peoples minds than the ones you adress here
Obviously people aren't going to admit they are sinners if they feel like it doesn't affect them. That is part of sins trap... it is enticing. People generally like to sin, they feel like it is okay and the easy way out. They don't realize that God has set standards and rules for our protection. Sins leads to bad things. That is why the world is in the state it is in, because of sin. Yes, people disagree on what is right and what is wrong. But, God's standards don't change. What is right is always right to Him, and what is wrong is always wrong. We just have to learn His standards and to follow them.
As for the whole changing people's minds topic, that wasn't my point at all. I was saying that I want them to believe as I do for their benefit. I wondered what their motivation is for trying to convince me on their beliefs... which I have yet to hear of any reason that sounds beneficial to me.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
lol. u should study mathematics a little more. infinity multiplyed by infinite gives, INFINITY! the universe is not infinite, its finite but is curved onto itself which is why it seems to have no end, the universe is PART of the multiverse. and i ASSURE you that matter can both be created and destroyed. when a nuclear bomb explodes matter is DESTROYED which is WHY so much energy is released havent you ever heard of einstien's equation E=Mc square ?
No, no, no. ❌ Energy cannot be created or destroyed. In a nuclear exploitation, matter decays in a chain reaction, and when matter decays it releases a lot of energy. E=MCsquared only shows that there is a lot of energy in matter.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
finti don't you know that she is going to take one look at your avatar and not read any of your post. 😆
i've read his posts, just like everyone elses. i don't condemn him for our difference of opinion, i'm just curious as to why he believes in the things he does, just as with everyone that disagrees with Christianity. i want to know why, and i won't let an avatar get in the way of that.
The first law of conservation of mass says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. This longstanding fundamental law of physics suprisingly still stands today. The laws further dictate that the same holds true for energy and charge. These quantities can only be converted between one antoher. Matter isn't destroyed in a nuclear reaction. The energy released is the result of a sustained nuclear reaction which occurs as a release of energy from the reaction. The fundamental unit of matter still exists. In a net system, the amount of energy, mass, and charge is constant.
Originally posted by MicahLynn
i've read his posts, just like everyone elses. i don't condemn him for our difference of opinion, i'm just curious as to why he believes in the things he does, just as with everyone that disagrees with Christianity. i want to know why, and i won't let an avatar get in the way of that.
And you have a difficult time telling when someone is joking. 😆