WTF?! No Visual Effects?

Originally posted by darthmaul1
Star wars got screwed over in the oscars.
They were only nominated for makeup
Narnia gets it and all they did for the scene they showed was tape some ears to an actor, but Ian Mcdirmid sits for 4 hours or so and totaly transforms into something else and gets nothing what a crock.

The oscars are a popularity contest or if you have been nominated 3 times before and you are nominated again you'll get the sympathy oscar, eg (Sean Penn Mystic river) it should of gone to Johnny Depp.

We were actually betting on who would win, for costumes I picked Charlie and the Chocolate factory cause that actually took some imagination to come up with (like star wars) and they give it to Memoirs of a Geisha cause that was a popular movie?? Hmmm let's see what clothes did they wear back then? Oh ya I'll just look at some pictures. What a joke

You don't know much about costume making, do you. And for the record, Memoirs of a Geisha was not a hugely popular movie, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was MUCH bigger.

Anyway, the only award I think SW should have been nominated for was Costume, because coming from the aspect of someone who makes costumes....the ones from SW are insane, though ROTS's aren't so much as AOTC or TPM.

I don´t even care about the Oscars.
It shows what the Academy thinks is a great movie, not what the fans/people think.
The Academy ignores Lucas for the fact that he wanted to be independent a long time ago and succeeded massively.
Lucas doesn´t give a f°°k about the Oscars, he cares about the fans.
Actually, StarWars in common had it´s fair share of recognition and still gets recognized for it´s very existence.
Hundred years from now people will still remember StarWars and what it meant to the world and the film-industry....and not some stupid-°ss movie who happened to win an oscar at the 78th..........PEACE.....

Greetings J.M(last visit>>about 3 years ago) FcThumbs-up

this is true. But I remember a few months ago, GL got some kind of award for SW and he said something to the affect of, "Star Wars is considered one of the greatest sagas yet Oddly enough, Star Wars doesn't receive too many awards." something like that and then thanked the fans, blah blah blah...

I just think he gets snubbed because like said, he wants to be independent, and that pisses people off. Like when he refused to put the actors names in the beginning of the films. He gets respect for going against the grain like that, from me at least. I think more people need to do that these days...but yes, later in life SW will get it due recognition and go down as the greatest, or one of the greatest films EVER.

Thanks Todd, appreciate the kind words.

The Academy is a collective art critic...its not about whats popular, its about the art. No Star Wars film has been outstanding in this respect save one, Star Wars (which won six oscars and rightfully so AND should have won best picture).

Originally posted by darthmaul1
Star wars got screwed over in the oscars.
They were only nominated for makeup
Narnia gets it and all they did for the scene they showed was tape some ears to an actor, but Ian Mcdirmid sits for 4 hours or so and totaly transforms into something else and gets nothing what a crock.

I know that all they showed was the faun's ears in the blurb on the Oscars, but in reality, he spent 3 1/2 to 4 hours in makeup daily as well, for a lot more than just ears, and there was a lot more to the film's makeup than just the faun. Two seconds isn't much time to show the expanse of a film's work.

It's a popularity contest. For some reason Lucas isn't popular with academy members, and he didn't get nominated.

Same reason why Gibson didn't get nominated for TPOTC.

Originally posted by chinabing
It's a popularity contest. For some reason Lucas isn't popular with academy members, and he didn't get nominated.

Same reason why Gibson didn't get nominated for TPOTC.

Which was way better in '04 than Million Dollar Baby.

😂

Originally posted by Alliance
The Academy is a collective art critic...its not about whats popular, its about the art. No Star Wars film has been outstanding in this respect save one, Star Wars (which won six oscars and rightfully so AND should have won best picture).

I absolutely agree with you on the art-thing, but again, it´s what THEY consider to be art.
I don´t let some nutcase from the academy tell me what is considered to be an artistic movie or is GOOD in common.
Therefor in my experience I actually don´t believe in any kind of reward or whatsoever and furthermore that´s why I never take reviews seriously.
So I consider it to be somebody else´s rating of a movie.
Although, I as a SW-fan would have liked to see Sith win an oscar, but yet again...>>>>that´s my point of view!!!

My votes go to the MTV-movie awards or peoples-choice....that´s plain fun, not because of some smart-ass critic, but because it keeps the fans in heart>>>for the fans, by the fans! 😮‍💨 😉

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
this is true. But I remember a few months ago, GL got some kind of award for SW and he said something to the affect of, "Star Wars is considered one of the greatest sagas yet Oddly enough, Star Wars doesn't receive too many awards." something like that and then thanked the fans, blah blah blah...

I just think he gets snubbed because like said, he wants to be independent, and that pisses people off. Like when he refused to put the actors names in the beginning of the films. He gets respect for going against the grain like that, from me at least. I think more people need to do that these days...but yes, later in life SW will get it due recognition and go down as the greatest, or one of the greatest films EVER.

Thanks Todd, appreciate the kind words.

These academy guys are some cold mo´f°ckers.
It´s like growing up from childhood to adult in which your parents are your guide....and the moment you move out on your own they kick your ass.
That´s a real hard m°therf°cking fact of life....in Lucas´ case, but ofcourse he gives them the finger.

Originally posted by J.M FcThumbs-Up
My votes go to the MTV-movie awards or peoples-choice....that´s plain fun, not because of some smart-ass critic, but because it keeps the fans in heart>>>for the fans, by the fans! 😮‍💨 😉

Yeah...they are fan based awards. And the Academy Awards are for actual artistic talent, not for Best Teenage pin up, its not a bunch of crap from smart ass critics, its from people who actually appreciate and can differentiate the artistic values the movies have.

The MTV ones are just so people can go 'Ooh looky, a movie I liked got an award' so you can sit at home and feel good about spending your money on a movie ticket or buying the dvd. No weight whatsoever. Its about whoever's popular, not whoever's the best.

Difference between the two award shows is that one gives awards based on actual knowledge of the movie performance overall, and the other is just whatever people think is good.

And they're not "cold mo´f°ckers", they dont sit down, watch a movie, then give an opinion on it based on what they like. These people know everything within the industry, they know what to look for, they weren't born yesterday. They have valid reasons for not picking Star Wars for anything, look at all the flaws in the movie for one thing.

For the record here, The Academy of Motion Pictures is and has for many years, been one big political machine. Corruption is very much alive and well when it comes to Oscar ballots. I'm not saying this from the point of view of a Star Wars an either. In years past there have been many, MANY films that had higher technical and artistic merit that were not granted awards over films that shouldn't have gotten them. 😐

I rarely watch these shows, but can you chuck an example out so I know whereabouts you're coming from?

I didn´t say the Academy doesn´t know what to look for, ofcourse they know what they´re doing.
Sure they had their reasons for not picking StarWars and I don´t fight that `hard mo´f°cking fact of life!!!!!!!`
The academy recognizes achievements with the ART of filming....but that´s not the fact I´m talking about(see my other comments).
The thing I said is just the fact that people/fans must deside for themselves what they think is a good movie, and not let themselves be driven mad by what the Academy does with StarWars.
StarWars has been recognized many times in the past with oscars and so on.

I´m just saying judge for yourself which movie you think is artistic material, good, inspiring etc......
No one, not even an Academy-EINSTEIN....can decide for you which movie you must think is great!!!!!!
Yeah, mtv-awards are just for the fun of it....like in ´ooooh, that movie I liked got an award!´

Indeedly so, so its no big deal if SW isnt nominated. Its still hugely successfull and loved, not winning an award doesnt make it less of a good movie.

Nice sig.....mine is as old as raisins!!!!

I agree with JP, it is corrupt. And so many of the Academy members are actors that I'm sure their views are slanted anyway. Still, it's hard to see good films/performances passed over whenever it happens.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Hmm. Well, they tend to overdo it and would probably rape everyone in their respective categories, so they leave them out, I suppose.

Much like Lotr..ah yes those were the days...just..killed...everyone... But back to the presant Starwars won a butt load of tech awards. Just no from the oscers.

blame GL for not directing good, rots acting wasn't that good at all there was only like 1 nomination and that was for episode 2, i dunno which awards was it tho, but they didn't win at all. The speical affects and story line is good, but it's all about acting

Originally posted by Mišt
Yeah...they are fan based awards. And the Academy Awards are for actual artistic talent, not for Best Teenage pin up, its not a bunch of crap from smart ass critics, its from people who actually appreciate and can differentiate the artistic values the movies have.

=100% Right. I would have said the same thing.

No, the Oscars are a mutual admiration society / association annual meeting / great excuse for a party / vote-for-the-person you want to suck up to next.

ROTS had all this critical acclaim from critics and it also ruled the box office this year. Yet there was nothing in the Stewart quips, no mention besides the makeup bit, nothing.

Stewart could have walked out dressed as Vader, (to the Imperial March), took off the mask and said "Clooney, I am your father" or some shtick like that.

Where's the love? At least Wallace & Gromit won.