Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Besides, white people shouldnt take things offensive. They're the dominant race.
You are ok to be discriminative and abusive towards the white people because you believe they are the dominant ''race''?
So all white people should be quiet at discrimination because they are ''dominant''. Double standards maybe?
First, white is NOT a goddamned ''race'' of people. Neither is black or Hispanic, or Chinese or Arab - its a different skin pigmentation!
What exactly do whites have, that other people do not have, apart from different skin pigmentation? Is their biological structure or make up different?
No, therefore they are not a different ''race''.
Its a word used to create more segregation - no wonder everyone cannot get a long!
Second, ''white peope'' are not dominant ''race'' as you so eloquently put it. There are more Chinese people than there are white people, and there are also more black people than there are white people.
Of course they should take offence! Any kind of insulting based on skin colour, gender or religion should be detested!
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
There are more Chinese people than there are white people, and there are also more black people than there are white people.
Yes, whites are not the most numerically dominant on the planet. They are, however, dominant when it comes to culture and and other influences.
However in the US they are the most numerically dominant, and other races must therefore conform to their culture. If I wanted to, I could talk like a middle class white boy from the burbs. When applying for jobs in the past, I would have to do that.
In the US most whites dont take things like "honkey", "cracker", and "gringo" offensive, because they are secure with the knowledge that they are the the dominant race.
I wouldnt doubt if a lot of white people wish that they were the most numeric race on the planet.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
What kind of bullshit reasoning is that?!You are ok to be discriminative and abusive towards the white people because you believe they are the dominant ''race''?
So all white people should be quiet at discrimination because they are ''dominant''. Double standards maybe?First, white is NOT a goddamned ''race'' of people. Neither is black or Hispanic, or Chinese or Arab - its a different skin pigmentation!
What exactly do whites have, that other people do not have, apart from different skin pigmentation? Is their biological structure or make up different?
No, therefore they are not a different ''race''.
Its a word used to create more segregation - no wonder everyone cannot get a long!Second, ''white peope'' are not dominant ''race'' as you so eloquently put it. There are more Chinese people than there are white people, and there are also more black people than there are white people.
Of course they should take offence! Any kind of insulting based on skin colour, gender or religion should be detested!
Oh and the quantity of white people is completely irrelevant.
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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yes, whites are not the most numerically dominant on the planet. They are, however, dominant when it comes to culture and and other influences.However in the US they are the most numerically dominant, and other races must therefore conform to their culture. If I wanted to, I could talk like a middle class white boy from the burbs. When applying for jobs in the past, I would have to do that.
In the US most whites dont take things like "honkey", "cracker", and "gringo" offensive, because they are secure with the knowledge that they are the the dominant race.
I wouldnt doubt if a lot of white people wish that they were the most numeric race on the planet.
Yes, above is true.
I am aware at the extent of racism, particualry so in America as well as United Kingdom. I cannot identify with being discriminated against for my colour, but i can most certainly identify with being discriminated for my gender, heratige and culture.
I suppose one thing that annoys me the for the most part is when a middle class white person says: ''there is not such thing as racism anymore - its a thing of a past''
And all i wanna do is slap him around few times and ask ''how do you know, privillage boy?!''
Because my people were slaves for 500 years, and I am uncomftable with saying where I am from, etc..being white in the west is privillage I do not take for granted because of what society we live in - but i would get offended if a person of different colour or creed or nationality called me something degrotary.
My point is, that not all of us see ''being white'' as being ''normal'' or ''by default'', like considerate number of people in the West. I for one do not see that, and I guess grouping me and people who think like me, in the same category as those who see themselves by default better for their skin colour, would upset me.
Originally posted by Eis
I'll have to disagree with you there. The white "race" or whatever it is, is dominant. I don't mean that in a racist way but in a realist way, the whole world is adapting to the white american way of living, thinking and acting.Oh and the quantity of white people is completely irrelevant.
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Yeah know i think its interesting to say more cultures of adapting to the white american way of living when I lived in DC and Northern Virginia the population was 50% black and the culture there was "international." This is something become much more common among the US. Where many cultures come together but just so I am clear what is the white american middle class way of living?
Originally posted by soleran30
Yeah know i think its interesting to say more cultures of adapting to the white american way of living when I lived in DC and Northern Virginia the population was 50% black and the culture there was "international." This is something become much more common among the US. Where many cultures come together but just so I am clear what is the white american middle class way of living?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yes, above is true.I am aware at the extent of racism, particualry so in America as well as United Kingdom. I cannot identify with being discriminated against for my colour, but i can most certainly identify with being discriminated for my gender, heratige and culture.
I suppose one thing that annoys me the for the most part is when a middle class white person says: ''there is not such thing as racism anymore - its a thing of a past''
And all i wanna do is slap him around few times and ask ''how do you know, privillage boy?!''
Because my people were slaves for 500 years, and I am uncomftable with saying where I am from, etc..being white in the west is privillage I do not take for granted because of what society we live in - but i would get offended if a person of different colour or creed or nationality called me something degrotary.
My point is, that not all of us see ''being white'' as being ''normal'' or ''by default'', like considerate number of people in the West. I for one do not see that, and I guess grouping me and people who think like me, in the same category as those who see themselves by default better for their skin colour, would upset me.
Whats your heritage and culture? Didnt your location say that you were from Japan not too long ago?
Most middle class whites literally belive that racism is a chapter of the past, and they do take it for granted and consider it normal as you put it.
Most whites in the US wouldnt take "honkey" offensive, as they are comforted in knowing that they are more numeric and "the best".
As a Chicano who's nearly 40 years old and who was born and raised in the southwest, I've been seeing (and dealing with) that shit my whole life.
Originally posted by BackFire
How the **** can anyone get offended by being called a "Honkey". It just sounds funny and silly, not mean spirited or insulting.And "Cracker", hell, might as well call them "Donut" or "Potato Chip". Again, not mean spirited or spiteful enough to be taken seriously.
Exactly.....If I were ever called any of those things, I'd simply laugh.
And it's not because I am part of the "dominant race" because I live in a city where most of the occupants are different skin color then me....I simply don't find those words Offensive....Now if you called me, let's say Guido, or Guinea then I might be a little offended.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Whats your heritage and culture? Didnt your location say that you were from Japan not too long ago?Most middle class whites literally belive that racism is a chapter of the past, and they do take it for granted and consider it normal as you put it.
Most whites in the US wouldnt take "honkey" offensive, as they are comforted in knowing that they are more numeric and "the best".
As a Chicano who's nearly 40 years old and who was born and raised in the southwest, I've been seeing (and dealing with) that shit my whole life.
I change my location often - it usually says Brazil, as I am very keen on Latin America.
I am in United Kingdom but my heritige is in Balkans. Mediteranian. My dad's haritage is little more south Eastern.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Thats not the point, ese. Its just the fact that they know that they are white that prevents them from getting offended.And thats exactly the attitude Im talking about. "Its not offensive, it just sounds silly."
Not to me. I think it's just that the words don't sound spiteful enough to be taken seriously. They're more like, making fun, not insulting.
the most dangerous times are when people sit back and fall under the delusion that they have finally entered "the future" and are evolved beyond primitave behavior. then injustice falls on deaf ears and blind eyes.
perfect example is when discussing the nazi regime of ww2, and people attitue on how it was just a freak and could never happen again, so lets not talk about it anymore. meanwhile there's a sharp spike in recruitment for white supremacist movements since 9/11, but lets ignore that since it makes us look bad.[/rant]