Oneness VS Trinity

Well Jesus had some good words, but Christianity along with other religions has lost them and replaced them earned oneness We are already one with everything.

Originally posted by Brother James
Hello Every One here...Peace of Christ.

I am brother James and I am new here.....in search of answers...

God Bless..........................Brother James

Hi there, welcome new-comer. I think you'll fit right in here. We have a diverse group here at KMC. Lot's of Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, but mostly Athiests and Agnostics. Enjoy your time here.

Originally posted by Brother James
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Hello There. Peace of Christ.

Can you explain what you mean by Oneness!!!!and who are this Oneness....
God Bless.......................Brother James 😄

First of all use fewer periods and exlamation points. Typing like a child gives no one a reason to take you seriously.

Oneness is far from a singular concept. It varies from faith to faith (and more importantly from person to person. By way of example, my church professes -- among other things -- oneness of Christians as the body of Christ in the modern world (for the idiots out there it's a metaphor). Others believe that humanity's thoughts form a single whole(the idea of noosphere or Gaia-ism, I think).

Originally posted by Brother James
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Hello There. Peace of Christ.

Can you explain what you mean by Oneness!!!!and who are this Oneness....
God Bless.......................Brother James 😄

Oneness is a Muslim concept. So it seems to me like this is a religion vs religion thread.

Originally posted by Punker69
First off its not biblical. "Trinity" is not even mentioned in the Bible.

Besides, you just said that GOD is the Father and that Jesus is the son and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit and then preceeded to say "there is still only one God" and I thought the Father was God.....🙄

God doesn't have different personalities. Thats just wrong all in itself.

Originally posted by Transfinitum
You seem to not understand the aspect of the most Holy Trinity:
First, we must understand that all beings have an essence, for example if you cut your hair you are still you; your essence remains.
Second, we must grasp that there can be a three PERSONS of the Divine Trinity; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit; but that they all of of the same ESSENCE, God.
And so there is one God, with three persons.

Casper the Holy ghost still has all of his essence, and so does the father, but Jesus H. Christ (formerly of Nazareth) lost the essence of his hands.

Personally, I'm fine with a three part "god". The polytheistic religions have always been more interesting to me, which is why I'm looking into the history of Hinduism.

Oneness vs. Trinity??

Why not take the peaceful route and compromise? Duality ftw!

Originally posted by Jbill311
Casper the Holy ghost still has all of his essence, and so does the father, but Jesus H. Christ (formerly of Nazareth) lost the essence of his hands.

Personally, I'm fine with a three part "god". The polytheistic religions have always been more interesting to me, which is why I'm looking into the history of Hinduism.

Hinduism is actually a monotheistic religion. Just like Christianity, its a monotheistic religion in disguise.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Hinduism is actually a monotheistic religion. Just like Christianity, its a monotheistic religion in disguise.

Kinda like Transformers....except, well, less cool.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Oneness vs. Trinity??

Why not take the peaceful route and compromise? Duality ftw!

Mebey 'cause it's dumb and limited. Duality traps the believer between opposing sides with no options but to pick one.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Mebey 'cause it's dumb and limited. Duality traps the believer between opposing sides with no options but to pick one.

You. Um. Sarcasm, right? Don't want to miss it this time.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
You. Um. Sarcasm, right? Don't want to miss it this time.

😂 Yeah, pretty much.

Oneness does NOT = The trinity. They are two different concepts.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Oneness does NOT = The trinity. They are two different concepts.

I don't think anyone's denying that.

Do not say "Three"; God is not one in a trinity. It is far-removed from His transcendental majesty that He should ever begot a son.

-The Koran 4:170

The Trinity is a messed up pagan belief adapted by early catholics to satisfy the pagans.

It amazes me that people follow this, especially as its not mentioned or backed up in any way whatsoever by scripture.

Originally posted by Punker69
Im Oneness. You?

Trinitarian view (For those not understanding it) -

God is a group of individuals, thus God is One. This reconciles the statements in the Bible to Jesus being God, the Holy Spirit being God and the Father being God with the statements to One God.

Trinitarian Dogma should not be misconstrued as a form of modalism.

Oneness, as Punker69 believes is modalism. Modalism has one individual that is God, and this God morphs (for want of a better word) into differing states to fulfill various roles.

Oneness:

I believe in three Gods, as the Bible states, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, as well as other gods. I believe that there are statements to the hierarchical and worshipped body that is God as well as statements to the state that is God or god in the Bible. These two are not interchangable, instead there is confusion due to an absence of disambiguation in the Bible. This confusion further derails the concept of an infallible Bible as the Bible itself states that God is not the author of confusion. Man authored the Bible, God inspired it. The inspiration was in fact infallible, but men are not.

I do not follow Trinitarian dogma or Oneness dogma. I have yet to see a satisfactory descriptive term for the manner I believe.

Originally posted by Punker69
First off its not biblical. "Trinity" is not even mentioned in the Bible.

Besides, you just said that GOD is the Father and that Jesus is the son and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit and then preceeded to say "there is still only one God" and I thought the Father was God.....🙄

God doesn't have different personalities. Thats just wrong all in itself.

Originally posted by Punker69
Ya see, thats mistake number one. There is no "Trinity". If God intended this to be taught he would've mentioned it.

There isn't three parts to God. God is filling out three seperate roles. Just like my dad. He's a father, he's a son, and he's a husband. But he is still ONE person. Trinitarians basically believe GOD is a race and the Father, Son, and the Holy spirit occupy that race and are co-eternal and co-equal.

God isn't a race. God isn't made up of three different person but is merely playing three different roles.

* first off, both Oneness and Trinity are not mentioned in the Bible... so those beliefs are only pre-conceived ideas and conclusions... the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not in a Trinity or Oneness... if you are reading the Bible, there is Godhead; no Trinity and no Oneness...

* no Oneness --- the Bible obviously depicts that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are different entities... Matthew 3:15-17, when John baptized Jesus: the Father spoke in the heavens, the Holy Spirit came down from heaven in a dove-like form, and of course, the Son is on earth being baptized...

* no Trinity --- the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not equal... John 14:28, the Father is greater than the Son, and the Son is greater than the Holy Spirit...

Originally posted by peejayd
* first off, [b]both Oneness and Trinity are not mentioned in the Bible... so those beliefs are only pre-conceived ideas and conclusions... the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not in a Trinity or Oneness... if you are reading the Bible, there is Godhead; no Trinity and no Oneness...

* no Oneness --- the Bible obviously depicts that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are different entities... Matthew 3:15-17, when John baptized Jesus: the Father spoke in the heavens, the Holy Spirit came down from heaven in a dove-like form, and of course, the Son is on earth being baptized...

* no Trinity --- the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are not equal... John 14:28, the Father is greater than the Son, and the Son is greater than the Holy Spirit... [/B]

That would make three gods?

* in what way?

* and you do have a habit of replying almost every message i post... are you a stalker or something? 😆