Now 60 seconds is rather generous and most likely it will take considerable less time than that. With the smooth surface of the arena and the fact that Magma would be able to control the composition (and thus viscosity) of the lava she generates, her lava flow under these conditions should be faster than any real world example. So grey fox's team even having a minute before they are swimming in 2000 degree F lava is a reach.
Crap, wasn't on, sorry... While the trampoline isn't breakable, it isn't totally solid... It isn't too big a stretch to say that some laval couldn't get through it. (though it would be slower than normal) Also, since both teams start near the edge, magma would be able to be brought around the edge. (the forcefield des nothing but keep everyone on the trampoline. Why? I said so.)
And yeah, I'm not going to be creative with bonus round locations, unless someone asks for a specific setting. (one that wouldn't favor one team, naturally) I may be using more DigiMark007 patented settings, (depending on if there are many more matches or not) but you can guarantee that they will definitely be my favorites from both tourneys... So it's really a compliment.
Originally posted by TheKahn
For now I'll assume it cannot:Prep:
-As gunshots will be a factor in this fight the first thing Husk will do is to husk into bullet proof diamond form that will also give her super strength as well as invulnerability (GenX'97).
-Magma's powers allow her not only to control] lava but also to generate it. However to save time once the fights starts she will go ahead and encase herself in much more molten rock than see normally would so it is accessible when the fight starts.
-And at the very end of prep time Sunspot will superheat his body so that bullets or anything else will melt before it hits him.Plan:
Now as soon as the fight starts Magma will begin to flood the entire floor of the arena from side to side with super hot lava using both that she collected in prep time and generating even more starting at my end of the battle field and traveling rapidly towards you team. Now this layer of lava only has to be a few inches thick as you have no flyers and no way to get close to my team (save for Spidey whom I'll get to).
At this poing Surge is on Husk's back and both are behind Magma, as diamond can withstand incrediable temperatures of the lava, and Sunspot is hovering over head waitng for the lava to do its work.
Now as only Spidey can get out of the way of the lava the rest of you team will have their legs burned off (followed by everything else after that). Now he could try and carry some of his team mates out of harms way but as their is no were to put them down, it will only slow him down.
And the walls will only provide haven for a short time as the walls and cellings are also getting a coat of lava. (as Mamga is still generating more all the time).That just leaves Spidey who will eventually die if he stays on the walls. So of course he will launch an attack before its too late. Now two of my characters are simply too hot to touch or for him to attack in any way (Magma and Sunspot) and he really can't hurt diamond Husk and Surge has the super reaction time to follow his movements.
However there is no longer any ground and little wall on my side for him to land on. So he is aginst 4 opponents, two of which will burn him if he touches them, one will shock him if he gets close, and the other he really can't hurt and all this time he cannot land on the ground and has to constantly worry about Sunspot or lava burning his web line to the celling. Weither he gets to close to one of my team members or he just takes too long. Spidey goes down.
That would be so great ....if magma wasn't dead. If the bullet doesn't do it then a super-grenade does. Those things can take down superboy and wondergirl Magma will be no problem.
Cap is already dealing with Sunspot so he's no problem .
This diamond form doesn't give a-lot of super strength i believe , so a decent amount of webbing ( not one layer maybe ten , fifteen , knowing spideys speed he could do this is 30-50 seconds) can hold her.
Anderson can pierce diamond. How ?
His bayonets go through human flesh easily this is not a new thing however , most humans can stab people . Unfortunately for the khan Anderson has super strength .
If a single bayonet doesn't work then he can use about thirty in a single throw . He doesn't need to be wholly focused on Surge as deathstrokes is on her case (after dealing with magma) .
Sunspot on the other hand is too busy being smacked around by cap to do anything , if he cant use his fist then his shield is ideal 😄
Spideys costume is strong enough to withstand the 'intense heat' , so he's beating on sunspot too.
The rest of my plan commences as i described it , Surge goes asplode (or can get a decapitation by Ds your choice) and sun spot get's curbstomped.
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Originally posted by grey fox
That would be so great ....if magma wasn't dead. If the bullet doesn't do it then a super-grenade does. Those things can take down superboy and wondergirl Magma will be no problem.Cap is already dealing with Sunspot so he's no problem .
This diamond form doesn't give a-lot of super strength i believe , so a decent amount of webbing ( not one layer maybe ten , fifteen , knowing spideys speed he could do this is 30-50 seconds) can hold her.
Anderson [b]can
pierce diamond. How ?His bayonets go through human flesh easily this is not a new thing however , most humans can stab people . Unfortunately for the khan Anderson has super strength .
If a single bayonet doesn't work then he can use about thirty in a single throw . He doesn't need to be wholly focused on Surge as deathstrokes is on her case (after dealing with magma) .
Sunspot on the other hand is too busy being smacked around by cap to do anything , if he cant use his fist then his shield is ideal 😄
Spideys costume is strong enough to withstand the 'intense heat' , so he's beating on sunspot too.
The rest of my plan commences as i described it , Surge goes asplode (or can get a decapitation by Ds your choice) and sun spot get's curbstomped.
👿 [/B]
First of all, keep in mind that the teams start out a mile apart. And even if Slade attempted to throw a grenade a mile at my team Sunspot could easily either incinerate it with a heat blast or redirect it back at your team with a concussive blast. As Magma is encased in solid rock I highly doubt she has anything to worry about as far as bullets are concerned but just to be safe she could always erect a wall a couple of feet thick in front of my team for added protection.
What you seem to be forgetting is that your team will never get within three fourths of a mile of my team. Magma is flooding the arena floor with lava starting at my side at traveling at your team at a speed greater than 60 mph. There if no way for your team to avoid it. They cannot jump over it as they would land in hot lava, their are no obstacles for them to climb up on, and they cannot fly ❌ .
Anderson, Cap, and Slade will all get burned alive before the first minute of the fight is over and never get within range to do anything.
As for Spidey, he could last slightly longer than the rest of the charred skeletons your will have left for a team (at least a little while before the walls and ceilings are also covered in lava). While Spidey's new suit does have a lot of interesting gadgets, the lava it will be exposed to has a temperature of 2200 degrees F (1200 deg. C) and it has never been shown to be able to withstand that kind of temperature (unless you have a scan of it doing so). The protection it offers isn't that impressive. And even if he were to attack he cannot do anything against my team. He can't touch Sunspot or Magma, can't hurt Husk, and Surge has the super speed to electrocute him if he gets close to her. And webbing Husk is hardly a knock out attack. Magma, Sunspot, or Surge (who is on Husk's back) could easily burn it off.
To summarize:
-Anderson, Cap, and Slade are all useless in this fight as they burned alive by lava within the first minute of combat with my team never getting within their range.
-Spiderman can last a little longer but is basically impotent to attack any member of my team. Webs won't work, he punches won't work, and he can't even touch the ground (and eventually the walls and celling).
With your plan you fail to take into account the distance your team would have to travel over a pit of lava. They simply cannot reach my team unless I let them. 😛
Originally posted by TheKahn
First of all, keep in mind that the teams start out a [b]mile apart. And even if Slade attempted to throw a grenade a mile at my team Sunspot could easily either incinerate it with a heat blast or redirect it back at your team with a concussive blast. As Magma is encased in solid rock I highly doubt she has anything to worry about as far as bullets are concerned but just to be safe she could always erect a wall a couple of feet thick in front of my team for added protection.What you seem to be forgetting is that your team will never get within three fourths of a mile of my team. Magma is flooding the arena floor with lava starting at my side at traveling at your team at a speed greater than 60 mph. There if no way for your team to avoid it. They cannot jump over it as they would land in hot lava, their are no obstacles for them to climb up on, and they cannot fly ❌ .
Anderson, Cap, and Slade will all get burned alive before the first minute of the fight is over and never get within range to do anything.As for Spidey, he could last slightly longer than the rest of the charred skeletons your will have left for a team (at least a little while before the walls and ceilings are also covered in lava). While Spidey's new suit does have a lot of interesting gadgets, the lava it will be exposed to has a temperature of 2200 degrees F (1200 deg. C) and it has never been shown to be able to withstand that kind of temperature (unless you have a scan of it doing so). The protection it offers isn't that impressive. And even if he were to attack he cannot do anything against my team. He can't touch Sunspot or Magma, can't hurt Husk, and Surge has the super speed to electrocute him if he gets close to her. And webbing Husk is hardly a knock out attack. Magma, Sunspot, or Surge (who is on Husk's back) could easily burn it off.
To summarize:
-Anderson, Cap, and Slade are all useless in this fight as they burned alive by lava within the first minute of combat with my team never getting within their range.
-Spiderman can last a little longer but is basically impotent to attack any member of my team. Webs won't work, he punches won't work, and he can't even touch the ground (and eventually the walls and celling).With your plan you fail to take into account the distance your team would have to travel over a pit of lava. They simply cannot reach my team unless I let them. 😛 [/B]
A - We know the Trampoline covers the entire arena, all other spaces are blocked by a forcefield , we also know that the trampoline is unbreakable (aka nothing gets through it) so how in the hell are you getting lava from nowhere ?
B - You seem to be forgetting how long it takes husk to actually become bullet proof , think how long it takes to peel your skin off (Fyi - Very long) By then she's ether capped by a bullet , taken out by a flung shield (with added ricochets ) or filled with bayonets.
You can't fill the arena with Magma (Molten rock ) , their fore Magma (girl) is near usless , Bayonets can go through (just because she's on fire doesn't mean they cant) Bullets can take her out , hell a spidey punch could probably take her head off (while spidey burns his hand a little.....)
Originally posted by grey fox
A - We know the Trampoline covers the entire arena, all other spaces are blocked by a forcefield , we also know that the trampoline is unbreakable (aka nothing gets through it) so how in the hell are you getting lava from nowhere ?B - You seem to be forgetting how long it takes husk to actually become bullet proof , think how long it takes to peel your skin off (Fyi - Very long) By then she's ether capped by a bullet , taken out by a flung shield (with added ricochets ) or filled with bayonets.
You can't fill the arena with Magma (Molten rock ) , their fore Magma (girl) is near usless , Bayonets can go through (just because she's on fire doesn't mean they cant) Bullets can take her out , hell a spidey punch could probably take her head off (while spidey burns his hand a little.....)
*Magma generates as well as controls lava ✅ She also built up considerable amounts during prep and carried it into the area.
*Husk "husks" to diamond form during my prep
*So Magma can cover the arena with lava and unless Spiderman can punch through the fiery molten rock covering her, she is safe from his punches.
Originally posted by grey fox
Meh. A bayonet does the job then , she can only 'pysichally' carry a small amount of magma , it isn't like an open door where you can lead a trail of magma behind you . And to my knowledge it takes a while to generate as much lava as your thinking.Gotta love bayonets....
I have never known of an instant where she couldn't generate the amount of lava she needed to use unless when she needed to use it. No bio or comicbook I've read with her suggests such a limit. It's her mutant power to generate lava, if she wants a lot real quick then she has a lot real quick unless you have a scan showing otherwise...
Also she can pack a considerable amount on her since all she really has to do is be able crawl into the arena and the layer of lava doesn't no have to be very think, I can load her down pretty heavily 😈
Again the bayonets will never get close considering the heat her body can produce they would melt (just like Sunspot) before they ever touched her body. So your team is still stuck on the other side of a ever growing lake of lava with no way to attack my team.
Gotta love lava... 😉
Originally posted by Dizzle
Crap, wasn't on, sorry... While the trampoline isn't breakable, it isn't totally solid... It isn't too big a stretch to say that some laval couldn't get through it. (though it would be slower than normal) Also, since both teams start near the edge, magma would be able to be brought around the edge. (the forcefield des nothing but keep everyone on the trampoline. Why? I said so.)
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Thank you DarkCrawler, I missed that post by Dizzle 👆
So Magma can generate lava, bring it up threw the floor, bring it over the side (where she is staying), and use what she brought in from prep time. 😄
This means she can also bring it up around your teams edge of the arena. So it look like they'll have even less time before being burned alive. 😈
Lava moves pretty slow (sure it moved at sixty miles per hour but under what circumstances ? )
Magma can't creater enough heat to melt a bayonet in the space of time it takes for it to enter and exit her body.
Or i could just throw a super-grenade while cap flings his shield effectively keeping sunspot busy. But i don't even need to do that as sun-spot isn't a crack shot like deathstroke .
Oh and you made a misconception on your 'who can get their first' my team may not be 'uber speed ' but their still pretty fast. Anderson's body regenerates so it's not a far stretch to the imagination to say that he can run at peak speed for hours on end , Deathstroke has caught up with impusle on foot . Spidey can web zip people to him , and cap's body doesn't let him get fatigued for a few days.
They would be their before you know it, heck Deathstroke could get their in a minute maybe under and ram the Sg in magma's face, her ambient heat setting it off......
Originally posted by grey fox
Lava moves pretty slow (sure it moved at sixty miles per hour but under what circumstances ? )Magma can't creater enough heat to melt a bayonet in the space of time it takes for it to enter and exit her body.
Or i could just throw a super-grenade while cap flings his shield effectively keeping sunspot busy. But i don't even need to do that as sun-spot isn't a crack shot like deathstroke .
Oh and you made a misconception on your 'who can get their first' my team may not be 'uber speed ' but their still pretty fast. Anderson's body regenerates so it's not a far stretch to the imagination to say that he can run at peak speed for hours on end , Deathstroke has caught up with impusle on foot . Spidey can web zip people [b]to
him , and cap's body doesn't let him get fatigued for a few days.They would be their before you know it, heck Deathstroke could get their in a minute maybe under and ram the Sg in magma's face, her ambient heat setting it off...... [/B]
60 mph was the fastest lava flow recorded in nature (on the first page should be the name and location of the actual volcano). Now that was in real life and the terrain was rough and had obstructions such as rocks and trees and yet it was able to reach that speed.
Now not only is the floor of the arena smooth and free of any obstacles but also Magma can control the type of lava she generates/calls forth. So as speed is important here, she would create extremely malfic lava (which is low in viscosity). Therefore the magma in this fight would actually be faster than 60 mph.
In other words in less than 30 seconds my half of the field will be easily covered in lava. Your team can't even get close
Now lets look at the speed of you team and keep in mind we start a mile apart. The fastest a human can run a mile is slightly under 4 minutes and lets say your team can cover that distance in half the time: 2 minutes. Traveling at around 60 mph the lava summoned by Magma would have already covered the entire arena floor 2 or 3 times over.
Your team simply isn't fast enough to cover that distance before the lava reaches them. But let us say they could for the sake of argument. Say they get meet the lava half way to my team. What could they do?
*Three members of my team are bullet proof and are standing in front of the one who isn't
*Blades and Grenades thrown at a distance of half a mile or more (and that is being generous) can easily be shot down or reflected back by Sunspot.
*And Magma can always throw up a rock shield several feet thich for added protection
And here is a visual aid of what the battle field will look like a few moments into the fight: 😄
Originally posted by grey fox
You seem to be forgettign that it was on a VOLCANO , gravity had a large part of the speed.
Gravity was the force propelling the lava from the volcano and in this fight it would be Magma's mutant powers (possibly a form of telekinesis?) propelling it and there is absolutely no reason why Magma can't reproduce or exceed the natural speed of a lava flow.
Ok plan revision.
Prep is basically the same .
Deathstroke set's off a few flash bangs thrown in your area . Your team are distracted by a rain of (exploding) bayonets , which has more then enough power to break any 'rock barriers' hopefully a shard of your oh so useful rock barrier will shrapnel into ether husk ( who i seriously doubt will be able to take all her skin off in half an hour...some part of her has to be squishy) or Surge.
This 'Rain of Pain' as i like to call it keeps your guy's thoroughly distracted, and considering magma (girl) is going to need a decent amount of concentration to generate the magma (Red hot molten rock) without turning her team-mates into crispy fried mutant.
Ok your team are now blind , slightly death and whole heartedly panicked. After all magma can't create any 'lava' while she's blind or she may end up melting one of partners.
My team then cross the gap easily enough , before giving your still blind ( Average flashbang lasts for about 4-5 mintuies and after that you still have white splotches in your eyes) teammates an ass kicking .
Slade drops a super grenade with ease in the middle of magma, her ambient heat setting the thing off BOOM.
Magma goes Asplode.
Husk get's pin cushioned . (Anderson can cut through a train section with ease , and can decapitate in a single strike , diamond wont be that hard....)
Spidey and cap take on sun spot , any blows spidey get's in are tripled due to the three 'scorpion' arms on his back . Or cap could just decapitate the kid with his shield.....
Surge is now left , her ye sight may just be coming back. Too little to late though as she is webbed up and then decapitated.
I believe this picture really embodies your predicament khan.....
Originally posted by grey fox
Ok plan revision.Prep is basically the same .
Deathstroke set's off a few flash bangs thrown in your area . Your team are distracted by a rain of (exploding) bayonets , which has more then enough power to break any 'rock barriers' hopefully a shard of your oh so useful rock barrier will shrapnel into ether husk ( who i seriously doubt will be able to take [b]all
her skin off in half an hour...some part of her has to be squishy) or Surge.This 'Rain of Pain' as i like to call it keeps your guy's thoroughly distracted, and considering magma (girl) is going to need a decent amount of concentration to generate the magma (Red hot molten rock) without turning her team-mates into crispy fried mutant.
Ok your team are now blind , slightly death and whole heartedly panicked. After all magma can't create any 'lava' while she's blind or she may end up melting one of partners.
My team then cross the gap easily enough , before giving your still blind ( Average flashbang lasts for about 4-5 mintuies and after that you still have white splotches in your eyes) teammates an ass kicking .
Slade drops a super grenade with ease in the middle of magma, her ambient heat setting the thing off BOOM.
Magma goes Asplode.
Husk get's pin cushioned . (Anderson can cut through a train section with ease , and can decapitate in a single strike , diamond wont be that hard....)
Spidey and cap take on sun spot , any blows spidey get's in are tripled due to the three 'scorpion' arms on his back . Or cap could just decapitate the kid with his shield.....
Surge is now left , her ye sight may just be coming back. Too little to late though as she is webbed up and then decapitated.
I believe this picture really embodies your predicament khan.....
Sorry, its not going to work. ❌
First of all Husk's can change her entire body into a different material in a matter of seconds. Not part and not in a couple of minutes. Here is a scan of her husking into metal:
She could jump in the air, change skin, and land with a new body.
And the problem you still haven't addressed is that your team will have to throw their bayonets and grenades from a mile away. Which even given the superstrength of some of your team members, that may not even be possible.
And even if your team could throw their weapon from a mile away (and still be accurate), they wouldn't even get close to the rock wall as I have Sunspot hovering above it ready to deflect/destroy any incoming projectiles. You see Sunspot absorbs light and heat for energy so standing near so much lava will provide him with a constant fuel source. So he can just release wave after wave of concussive energy to ensure nothing gets close to the wall.
But lets assume Sunspot isn't there and you team can actually get your bayonets and grenades to my team. What exactly do you expect them to do?
Can they get past solid rock several feet thick? Most likely not
Can shrapnel from the wall hurt my team? No, Magma is encased in rock so she isn't going to be hurt, Husk is standing behind Magma and made out of diamond so she would be fine, Surge is behind both of them, and Sunspot can superheat his body so that anything coming near him would just melt and he would absorb the heat from it.
Oh, and for the idea of Spidey taking on Sunspot, as I said Sunspot and raise the temperature around his body enough to melt super sonic bullets before they reach his skin. Neither Spidey or his tentacles can touch him ❌
So you're too far way to use any of your weapons, even if you could use them my team is protected by the wall and Sunspot, and your team will still be burned alive in less and 60 seconds into the fight.
Looks like you need another plan 😖hifty:
