Tournament Bonus Round Exhibition Match: TheKhan vs. grey fox

Started by grey fox7 pages
As much as I like Ult. Cap, there is not way he is going to throw his shield from a mile away and break through a four foot thick rock wall. If he was a few feet away he might have a chance, but from a mile off it would just bounce off and land in a pool of lava.

Yes it will , cap has thrown his shield further before and considering he is much stronger then 616 cap it should make the distance.


As I said Anderson won't be running anywhere thanks to trampoline surface. He'll end up flying through the air making himself and easier target for Sunspot's concussive blasts. Most likely the bayonets will never reach my team and most will get deflected back at your team making my job easier.

My my my you really like to assume and befuddle yourself don't you. Did i ever say he would run in my last post . No . It is possible to move without running , but even still, it is possible to run on a trampoline.

Not by any attack you are attempting and not with the defenses (both personal and communal) my team has. ❌

You have already admitted husk can be pin cushioned and magma is much lower on the durability list then husk , whereas sunspot is irony in itself , being super strength but not super durable , sure he can 'create a heat shield ' (aka a plot device to stop him getting his ass kicked by hawkeye) but that doesn't mean he's suddenly immune to everything on the battlefield.

You've proven that the bayonets can shatter/cut through glass and a wood framed wall at close range not rock at a mile (not that many will even reach my side thanks to Sunspot). And as I said Cap is much to far away for his shield to do any damage. Besides there will be more than one wall...

Now i would agree with you their IF Anderson didn't have super strength , I'm afraid theirs not many scans of his piercing things other then people though . Except for when he's goderson and takes a blimp out which was immune to an entire battalion (about 20-0000 people firing upon it ) . I'll look for it later on.

I've proven it isn't. I've shown a bio that states the ability and give the names and issue numbers of the comics where he gained them. He'll know when he sees Slade bouncing towards my team. Slade has to cover the mile distance between the two teams and there is no cover for him to hide behind on this battle field. Also Surge will be out in front so he'll also either hear her voice a warning or see her using her powers. He'll be able to give Magma plenty of warning without taking his focus off Anderson.

No , what I'm debating about is you thinking that sunspot can warn everyone in a mirco second .

I mean why else would anyone be running towards a lava wave if not to get into range to attack? 😕 Besides it is unlikely that Slade could even get into range to throw his grenades given the speed of the lava. As I have said before in less than 30 seconds he can't get within at least a half mile. :evil
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I have already given reasons why and how he should get their way before the lava should even cone near , and what the hell spideys doing jack shit so lets send him as well on his webs/glidey thing.

I don't care if Husk is blind and pin cushioned (won't happen anyway since the walls are still up and Sunspot can warn her to close her eyes). What matters to me is that Magma is safe, which given all the reasons I've stated she will be ✅ Keep in mind that Husk is made of diamond, so rock fragments are not going to hurt her anyway.

So once again he can warn her in a mircosecond , sunspot isn't supes Khan . He can't tell what someones carrying or doing in 0.345656 seconds.

Given that she actually has superspeed, I doubt Slade is going to take her down quickly. And given that she has ranged attacks, she would never even get close to him (and as she is practically an electric generator Slade getting close to her much less touching her wouldn't be advisable).
Also they would both be limited in speed given the trampoline surface.

COUGHImpulseCOUGHFlashCOUGHSladekickedboththeirassesCOUGH

A. he See's everything in slow mo

B. uber reflexes

He dodges any blasts throw his way with relative ease , and slade would figure out a way to maximise his movement on the trampoline . He isn't using 95% of his brain for nothing you know.

Sorry, I don't speak Hun.
I prefer Latin: Veni, vidi, vici.

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Originally posted by grey fox
Quod senior did pluvia bayonets down super spurcus trunco scum alowing suus righteous vulpes volpes of grey ut kick ass.

I don't know what that means but it doesn't sound good!

Originally posted by grey fox
Yes it will , cap has thrown his shield further before and considering he is [b]much stronger then 616 cap it should make the distance.[/B]

Ult. Cap's shield might get there but he is nowhere near strong enough to put his shield through a four foot thick wall of solid rock (unless you have a scan of him doing so...). 😬 You know better than that grey fox

Originally posted by grey fox

My my my you really like to assume and befuddle yourself don't you. Did i ever say he would [b]run
in my last post . No . It is possible to move without running , but even still, it is possible to run on a trampoline.[/B]

He can either attempt to run and get launched in the air or he can try to hop from one side of the arena to the other. That's it. Either way he is just an easier target for Sunspot (Why else would we be fighting on a trampoline if it wouldn't affect our teams and they could move normally 😑 ?

Originally posted by grey fox

You have already admitted husk can be pin cushioned and magma is much lower on the durability list then husk , whereas sunspot is irony in itself , being super strength but not super durable , sure he can 'create a heat shield ' (aka a plot device to stop him getting his ass kicked by hawkeye) but that doesn't mean he's suddenly immune to everything on the battlefield.

I did you even read my post? I said "I don't care if Husk is blinded and pin cushioned...Keep in mind that Husk is made of diamond, so rock fragments are not going to hurt her anyway." I admitted nothing. Husk can't be hurt by rock fragments, and neither can Magma (who is encased in rock) and Sunspot (who's temperature around his body is hot enough to melt bullets before that touch his skin).

Originally posted by grey fox

Now i would agree with you their [B]IF
Anderson didn't have super strength , I'm afraid theirs not many scans of his piercing things other then people though . Except for when he's goderson and takes a blimp out which was immune to an entire battalion (about 20-0000 people firing upon it ) . I'll look for it later on.[/B]

Super strength or not he still hasn't been shown able to do what you are claiming he can.

Originally posted by grey fox

No , what I'm debating about is you thinking that sunspot can warn everyone in a mirco second .

All he has to say is "somebody's comming". Given that the battle field is clear of any obstacles all he would have to see out of the corner of his eye is a guy in a yellow/black costume running at him or see/hear Surge using her powers (which would be quite bright). Anyone can easily see over a mile. 😉 Slade has to get close enough to use his weapons, get past Surge, and actually throw them. That is plent of time for Sunspot to give ample warning.

Originally posted by grey fox

I have already given reasons why and how he should get their [b]way
before the lava should even cone near , and what the hell spideys doing jack shit so lets send him as well on his webs/glidey thing.
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What that he shot Impluse? 😕 That's fine but you never stated how fast either was traveling. They could have been going well under 20 mph or well over the speed caps of this tourney. And the bio you provided only states that Slade has super reflexes not super speed. How many other times has Slade ever exhibited super speed?

Yes Spiderman will be doing "jack shit" because this is the first you've mentioned of him. If he attempts to get near my team, there isn't anything he can do. He can't touch Sunspot or Magma and can't hurt Husk.

Originally posted by grey fox

So once again he can warn her in a mircosecond , sunspot isn't supes Khan . He can't tell what someones carrying or doing in 0.345656 seconds.

I've explained above why Sunspot would have ample time to warn them about anybody comming close.

Originally posted by grey fox

COUGHImpulseCOUGHFlashCOUGHSladekickedboththeirassesCOUGH

A. he See's everything in slow mo

B. uber reflexes

He dodges any blasts throw his way with relative ease , and slade would figure out a way to maximise his movement on the trampoline . He isn't using 95% of his brain for nothing you know.

Again he may beat Surge, but it will take some time and every second he spends dodging her attacks is another second he gets put farther out of range thanks to the lava flow. 😈

Originally posted by grey fox

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Ult. Cap's shield might get there but he is nowhere near strong enough to put his shield through a four foot thick wall of solid rock (unless you have a scan of him doing so...). 😬 You know better than that grey fox

Give me twenty minutes and I'll find a strength feat which backs up the shield throw.

He can either attempt to run and get launched in the air or he can try to hop from one side of the arena to the other. That's it. Either way he is just an easier target for Sunspot (Why else would we be fighting on a trampoline if it wouldn't affect our teams and they could move normally 😑 ?

Once again it's possible to move on a trampoline without suddenly bouncing like an idiot .

did you even read my post? I said "I don't care if Husk is blinded and pin cushioned...Keep in mind that Husk is made of diamond, so rock fragments are not going to hurt her anyway." I admitted nothing. Husk can't be hurt by rock fragments, and neither can Magma (who is encased in rock) and Sunspot (who's temperature around his body is hot enough to melt bullets before that touch his skin).

Huh , I'm not talking about shrapnel , I'm talking about bayonets my friend . Bayonets that fall from the heavens 😎


Super strength or not he still hasn't been shown able to do what you are claiming he can.

I'll look for the scan as soon as i have the cap one , it's in a volume which hasn't been released yet so cut me some slack.

All he has to say is "somebody's comming". Given that the battle field is clear of any obstacles all he would have to see out of the corner of his eye is a guy in a yellow/black costume running at him or see/hear Surge using her powers (which would be quite bright). Anyone can easily see over a mile. 😉 Slade has to get close enough to use his weapons, get past Surge, and actually throw them. That is plent of time for Sunspot to give ample warning.

'Somebodies comming' does not equate into enough time to close your eyes from a flashbang . Just admit it.

What that he shot Impluse? 😕 That's fine but you never stated how fast either was traveling. They could have been going well under 20 mph or well over the speed caps of this tourney. And the bio you provided only states that Slade has super reflexes not super speed. How many other times has Slade ever exhibited super speed?

He CAPPED impulse , what more proof do you need. I also think he outrun bat's once ( not sure about that though) .

Yes Spiderman will be doing "jack shit" because this is the first you've mentioned of him. If he attempts to get near my team, there isn't anything he can do. He can't touch Sunspot or Magma and can't hurt Husk.

Cant do anything aye ? .......

How about webbing up husk before flinging her into sunspot knocking the bastard out.

I've explained above why Sunspot would have ample time to warn them about anybody comming close.

But not against the flahsbang , which i have already mentioned.

Again he may beat Surge, but it will take some time and every second he spends dodging her attacks is another second he gets put farther out of range thanks to the lava flow. 😈

Once again i repeat myself Slade can outrun her

Cap knocking over Giant man and then using an ordinary metal disc thrown a fairly long distance (not a mile i can admit but pretty damn far)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9730/untitled112fq.jpg

Lifts heavy weights with ease.

http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled4066yt.jpg

Holds up a huge tree with relative ease

http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled5154zw.jpg

Originally posted by grey fox
Give me twenty minutes and I'll find a strength feat which backs up the shield throw.

If you have a scan of Cap shattering a rock wall from a mile away I'd be glad to see it

Originally posted by grey fox

Once again it's possible to move on a trampoline without suddenly bouncing like an idiot .

Yes, but you have to move very slowly and either jumping in the air or moving slowly just makes Anderson an easier target. You simply can't run (again this is why we're fighting on a trampoline to begin with).

Originally posted by grey fox

Huh , I'm not talking about shrapnel , I'm talking about bayonets my friend . Bayonets that fall from the heavens 😎

Firstly, there is the little issue of several rock walls in the way and Sunspot deflecting you little bayonets. Secondly, Husk is made of diamonds which if you remember your geology classes is much harder than steel (steel cannot even scratch diamond). So Husk will be perfectly safe, the heat around Sunspot will melt any bayonets that get near him, and Magma is encased in rock and standing behind Husk and under Sunspot. You bayonets are not a threat to anyone.

Originally posted by grey fox

I'll look for the scan as soon as i have the cap one , it's in a volume which hasn't been released yet so cut me some slack.

Again, I just have doubt that Anderson can put his bayonets through a several four foot thick rock walls from a mile away (I have the same doubts about Cap and his shield) but if there is a scan of him doing that I'd like to see it...

Originally posted by grey fox

'Somebodies comming' does not equate into enough time to close your eyes from a flashbang . Just admit it.

Exactly how long do you think it takes to close your eyes? 😑
All you need is a bare fraction of a second. And unless Slade is way over the cap in terms of speed, he cannot launch his attack that fast. Oh, and thoes pesky rock walls are still in the way so it's not like the light from his grenades will even reach my team (and if they did: Sunspot would absorb it, Husk would shield Magma, and Magma would shield her eyes)

Originally posted by grey fox

He CAPPED impulse , what more proof do you need. I also think he outrun bat's once ( not sure about that though) .

Yes he did but we don't know how fast Impulse was going when that happened do we? He could have been going 20 mph for all we know. There is nothing you've shown (not even your bio of him) that proves that Slade has any real super human speed . The fastest humans alive can run about 15mph Slade may be a little faster than that but that's all. The lava is moves and 60+ mph. He'll never get close enough to my team to attack and if he tries he'll just be the first to get burned alive (as he still has to take time to deal with Surge)

Originally posted by grey fox

Cant do anything aye ? .......

How about webbing up husk before flinging her into sunspot knocking the bastard out.

He can try but all Magme would have to do is splash a little lava on Husk or just reach out and touch her to burn off the webbing (the 2000 degree lava isn't hot enough to damage diamond). And really that is all Spiderman can attempt to do. He is basically useless against my team and the rest of your team will be dead very soon.

Originally posted by grey fox

But not against the flahsbang , which i have already mentioned.

Not only would he have time to warn against the flash bang, but he would absorb the excess light if any managed to get past the walls. Again he will see Slade bouncing towards my team long before he is in range and Sunspot will see Surge's bright electical attacks long before Slade is in position to attack. Sunspot has plenty of time.

Originally posted by grey fox

Once again i repeat myself Slade can outrun her

And again I ask where has he shown real super speed besides capping Impulse at an unknown speed? She has real super speed and the trampoline will keep either from going too fast. She is plently fast enough to give him trouble and delay him.

Originally posted by grey fox
Cap knocking over Giant man and then using an ordinary metal disc thrown a fairly long distance (not a mile i can admit but pretty damn far)

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9730/untitled112fq.jpg

Lifts heavy weights with ease.

http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled4066yt.jpg

Holds up a huge tree with relative ease

http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitled5154zw.jpg

Yes Ult. Cap is strong but all your scan showed was that the disk could cut through metal wire only a few millimeters thick that was already under considerable stress at close range. That isn't anywhere close to going through several four foot thick rock walls a mile away. 🙄 All his shield would do is bounce off the walls or at best embed itself a few inches into one of them. It is a useless attack given the distance and composition of the target involved.

As for Anderson's bayonet ability...

Guess who did that 😈

Originally posted by TheKahn
Yes Ult. Cap is strong but all your scan showed was that the disk could cut through metal wire only a few millimeters thick that was already under considerable stress at close range. That isn't [b]anywhere close to going through several four foot thick rock walls a mile away. 🙄 All his shield would do is bounce off the walls or at best embed itself a few inches into one of them. It is a useless attack given the distance and composition of the target involved. [/B]

No , the bayonets weaken the rock while the sheild finishes it off.

Originally posted by grey fox
As for Anderson's bayonet ability...

Guess who did that 😈

Once again glass, wood framed walls, and the very thin skin of a blimp are no where near the same thing as solid rock ❌ 🙄

Slade speed feats

http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladefast6dr.jpg

Originally posted by long pig
Slade is seemingly stronger. Strength of 100 men is more than his bio, but.....bios don't matter. This feat would put Slade somewhere near 8-10 ton level

He can move at the speed of his thought process, which is 10x normal human. So, pretty fast. Reacting at his speed of thought would give him reflexes beyond people like Quicksilver.


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Slade is damn fast. He gets sneak blitzed by Kid Flash. He took as second to realize wtf was going on, but when he did, he was able to move with KF's punch, then to kick him and K.O him.
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Hell spidey could go first and slade could use the remaining web to.... go forward.

http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladesuperman7yh.jpg

Taking out kid flash again.

http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladekidflash7bi.jpg

Originally posted by grey fox
No , the bayonets weaken the rock while the sheild finishes it off.

The bayonets would be deflected before they ever reached my team (thanks to Sunspot). The one that might actually get through wouldn't be enough to take down multiple rock walls and Cap. throwing his shield from a mile away and expecting to do anything is being just a little too optimistic. Remember your team has less than a minute to live, and they simply can't get past the multiple layers of defense my team has in that very short amount of time. ❌

Originally posted by grey fox
Slade speed feats

http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladefast6dr.jpg

Slade is damn fast. He gets sneak blitzed by Kid Flash. He took as second to realize wtf was going on, but when he did, he was able to move with KF's punch, then to kick him and K.O him.

Hell spidey could go first and slade could use the remaining web to.... go forward.

http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladesuperman7yh.jpg

Taking out kid flash again.

http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladekidflash7bi.jpg

All of thoes scans show that Slade is very quick but none show him actually running at super speed or anything close. He does have incredible reflexes and reaction times and thus can fight at an impressive speed but that is something different than running speed.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Once again [b]glass, wood framed walls, and the very thin skin of a blimp are no where near the same thing as solid rock ❌ 🙄 [/B]

Oh really ?

Now i'm no major geologist , but no amount of rock could put up with the punishment that that blimp just took. The rock wall goes down.

Originally posted by TheKahn
The bayonets would be deflected before they ever reached my team (thanks to Sunspot). The one that might actually get through wouldn't be enough to take down multiple rock walls and Cap. throwing his shield from a [b]mile away and expecting to do anything is being just a little too optimistic. Remember your team has less than a minute to live, and they simply can't get past the multiple layers of defense my team has in that very short amount of time. ❌ [/B]

You don't understand the word RAIN do you . He can't stop every single bayonet getting through . It 's damn near impossible.

When you step outside and it's raining you raise an umbrella , does rain still get on you . Yes .

Originally posted by grey fox
Oh really ?

Now i'm no major geologist , but no amount of rock could put up with the punishment that that blimp just took. The rock wall goes down.

The problem is that Anderson didn't cause that much damage by himself. ❌ He had an entire army behind him firing on the blimp. If he had an army he might could take down my walls but not by himself.

Originally posted by grey fox
You don't understand the word RAIN do you . He can't stop every single bayonet getting through . It 's damn near impossible.

When you step outside and it's raining you raise an umbrella , does rain still get on you . Yes .

He isn't deflecting them in flight but at their source. As Anderson is throwing all of the bayonets, all Sunspot has to do is aim at him and he will deflect all of the bayonets before they ever get into the air to rain down.

You seem to misunderstand. Their is more then one blimp , theirs three

Those are the regular troops of the Iscariot , Anderson is their trump card.

It took them around 1-10 thousand men firing upon that blimp (with special shield) to do any real damage. Anderson on the other hand did it by himself , he's a trump card for a reason khan.

Admit it , your rock wall is useless.

He isn't deflecting them in flight but at their source. As Anderson is throwing all of the bayonets, all Sunspot has to do is aim at him and he will deflect all of the bayonets before they ever get into the air to rain down.

Doubt it , anderson is faster then vampires. Vampires speed-blitz ordinary humans , sure sunspot is a 'mutant' but his powers don't help him here , anderson can get two volleys out of three off in between each blast.

Originally posted by grey fox
You seem to misunderstand. Their is more then one blimp , theirs three

Those are the regular troops of the Iscariot , Anderson is their trump card.

It took them around 1-10 thousand men firing upon that blimp (with special shield) to do any real damage. Anderson on the other hand did it by himself , he's a trump card for a reason khan.

Admit it , your rock wall is useless.

The scans you posted didn't show Anderson damaging the blimp. ❌ It showed an army firing on it. Again, with any army he might have a shot but he can't do it by himself. Also the skin of a blimp has to be very thin and light wieght. It doesn't compare to multiple solid rock walls four feet thick.

Originally posted by grey fox

Doubt it , anderson is faster then vampires. Vampires speed-blitz ordinary humans , sure sunspot is a 'mutant' but his powers don't help him here , anderson can get two volleys out of three off in between each blast.

Anderson won't be going that fast thanks to the trampoline we're fighting on (there was a reason Dizzle picked a trampoline and not a hard surface). He'll end up being thrown into the air making him a very easy target for Sunspot and his "mutant" power.

Originally posted by TheKahn
The scans you posted didn't show Anderson damaging the blimp. ❌ It showed an [b]army firing on it. Again, with any army he might have a shot but he can't do it by himself. Also the skin of a blimp has to be very thin and light wieght. It doesn't compare to multiple solid rock walls four feet thick.

Anderson won't be going that fast thanks to the trampoline we're fighting on (there was a reason Dizzle picked a trampoline and not a hard surface). He'll end up being thrown into the air making him a very easy target for Sunspot and his "mutant" power. [/B]

The author made note of the damn armour , do you have to be so dense. I am blatantly pointing out that while a armed force of over a thousand has problems taking out a damn blimp Anderson doesn't their not the same blimps.

A scan later shows the major (guy dancing on top of the blimp) safe and snug (while his subordinates try to repair the damage) whereas that blimp is dropping out of the sky real fast. The third was destroyed by Seras victoria.

Grabbing and throwing bayonets are a bit different then moving around .

Now if you'll excuse me i have to bathe , i shall return ether in half an hour or an hour.