Malak versus Yoda, Obi-Wan and Anakin

Dooku is the worst out of the big 4 of the PT era. He was extremely good with a saber bit I don't think he was quite as good as the others. He clearly runs away from Yoda because he knows that he cannot win, and Yoda seems to have the upper hand throughout the fight. Sidious seemed to give Yoda much more trouble then Dooku did and was able to take out three jedi masters with relative ease (though that was partly due to his use of the force in my opinion), and Mace was able to defeat Sidious and clearly master his form to such a level where he hardly ever made a mistake.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Have you asked? No.

Dooku had perfected a style dedicated to dueling. He used minimal effort and wasted virtually no effort in fighting. His form made him the best duelist of the PT era.

....ok? And this diminishes his ability or increases his ability as a fighter, and against Malak how?

Runs away? He does not display any signs of fear.

He has these reasons to run:

1) The Republic army is coming for the hangar. Dooku knows that getting the Death Star plans to Sidious is imperative.

2) If he doesn't get on his ship quickly, the Republic could blockafe the planet.

Dooku is not the worst...

You're right Dooku is not the worst. But it is not only reasonable but very logical to assume that he knew he couldn't defeat Yoda if the combat were to continue. Also, What makes Dooku below Malak, or what makes Malak above Dooku?

This is like saying Sidious tried to run at the beginning of the fight with Yoda because he was outclassed or is weaker.

But who ended up fleeing at the end of their fight? Sidious or Yoda?

Well I interpreted the fight as a win for Yoda and that Dooku knew he couldn't win so he departed. He is clearly not better than Sidous who was not only able to deal with Yoda much better then Dooku was, but was also able to kill 3 jedi masters in a matter of seconds. And in my opinion, Windu was clearly in control of his battle with Sidious and seemed to be in such harmony with the force that he just fought perfectly.

Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
This is like saying Sidious tried to run at the beginning of the fight with Yoda because he was outclassed or is weaker.

But who ended up fleeing at the end of their fight? Sidious or Yoda?

Sidious did try to run because he was afraid of Yoda. If you notice Yoda had the upper hand when the fight was on a level playing field. You're right Yoda fled. If you didn't notice they both ended up force pushing each other off the platform and Yoda was the lighter of the two. He lost his lightsaber and the stormtroopers were practically in the building. It was shown even in the GL commentary that Yoda was more than a match for Sidious. And if you don't want to watch the commentary, watch Sidious' face at the end of the fight. He has the "Oh shit i'm screwed" look. And if you want to talk about who won that fight, Yoda lives and trains someone who brings down Vader and Sidious. Either way Yoda won it.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Runs away? He does not display any signs of fear.

He has these reasons to run:

1) The Republic army is coming for the hangar. Dooku knows that getting the Death Star plans to Sidious is imperative.

2) If he doesn't get on his ship quickly, the Republic could blockafe the planet.

Dooku is not the worst...

Well...you know that in a former version of the AotC script Yoda disarmed Dooku, jumped on his shoulders and was about to kill him ? By just reading Lucas own description of the fight it's pretty clear that Yoda is in fact the superior fighter.

And I don't see where the "Yoda had to take a deep breath" argument does say anything. Dooku just stands on the ground and parries while Yoda jumps around like a mad muppet and hammers 2 attack per second on Dooku's defence. Of course he looks more tired than Dooku but still Dooku was the one who left the place where he has clearly intented to beat Yoda before the fight started.

Yet...Malak is clearly no pushover in terms of lightsaber combat but the idea that he should be superior to Dooku, a Sith Lord who practiced the "refinement of lightsaber vs lightsaber combat" for 8 decades or Yoda with more than 8 centuries of lightsaber training appears somewhat odd to me especially when all his skill (and the power backup from the Star Forge) wasn't enough to take down Revan.

So Anakin and Obi-Wan are toast but I think Yoda takes him.

Uh, AotC Anakin and Obi-Wan get badly tooled, Yoda fights Malak for a minute, Yoda looks like he's gaining the upper hand when Malak flees to return the Star Forge plans to Revan.

Right so in reality, Yoda would tool Malak..

Originally posted by tdtd
Right so in reality, Yoda would tool Malak..

thank you

No problem. There's only one person who voted for Malak anyways. I am just saying what they're all thinking.

Very true

You know, storywise, I always thought that malak was just sort of a Darth Vader Knock-off. Maimed somehow (I have always wondered how), and scary looking mask to hide it. but the way the were portrayed - I've gotta agree with the consensus. He probably kills (literally as opposed to Dooku, who as more of a gentleman allowed his defeated opponents to live) Obi-wan and Anakin, then loses to Yoda in an awesomely computer generated lightsaber duel.

Originally posted by docb77
You know, storywise, I always thought that malak was just sort of a Darth Vader Knock-off. Maimed somehow (I have always wondered how), and scary looking mask to hide it. but the way the were portrayed - I've gotta agree with the consensus. He probably kills (literally as opposed to Dooku, who as more of a gentleman allowed his defeated opponents to live) Obi-wan and Anakin, then loses to Yoda in an awesomely computer generated lightsaber duel.

Malak is a Vader rip off, just not as cool and a bit more powerful.

Malak sucks, and yet he has fanboys protecting him from his obvious betters.

This'd be close, Malak > Dooku so hge'd definately take care of Anakin and Obi-Wan before Yoda comes. Then it's him vs. Yoda, which would be very close but I think Malak would win.

Originally posted by darthsith19
This'd be close, Malak > Dooku so hge'd definately take care of Anakin and Obi-Wan before Yoda comes. Then it's him vs. Yoda, which would be very close but I think Malak would win.