The Forbidden Gospel of Judas?

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3. Abstract Nouns

Abstract nouns are similar to inanimate objects in two ways. Firstly, as I
pointed out in the previous chapter, when some inanimate objects are
personified, it is the gender of the corresponding Latin word that
determines the pronoun used in English. That is also the case with most
abstract nouns. Secondly, the feminine pronoun she is more often used than
the masculine pronoun he.

The pronoun she is used when referring to abstract ideas such as
Nature, Fortune, Wisdom, Science, Liberty, Mercy and Peace. Zandvoort
points out that some of the abstract nouns referred to as she suggest
"ideas of gentleness" (1957: 132). As an example, he gives the nouns mercy
and peace.

The pronoun he is often used when referring to, for example, Love, Time,
Death and War (Zandvoort, 1957: 131). This is where we can find the nouns
that do not conform to the rule that Latin gender decides the pronoun used
in English, since both Death and War are feminine in Latin. Zandvoort
explains these exceptions by suggesting that death and war are "thought of
as something strong and terrible" (1957: 132) while the feminine abstract
nouns suggests, as I quoted above, "ideas of gentleness".

* an excerpt from http://www.uta.fi/~johanna.uusikartano/grammar.txt

Originally posted by peejayd
* inanimate objects are always identified with female pronouns... the Mother Nature, our countries, they are identified with female pronouns... 😉

* Christ is the wisdom of God... 😉

Not necessarily true....the true word for god is "EL".It's the the pronoun or verb that would make it male or female..........which you can find in the bible.........El is neither masculine nor feminine.... Like ELOHIM.

EL SHADDAI is usually translated as GOD ALMIGHTY - EL, meaning GOD and SHADDAI being a combination word - SHE, meaning WHO and DAI meaning ENOUGH. EL SHADDAI GOD WHO IS ENOUGH, GOD WHO IS SELF-SUFFICIENT (Hagigah 12a). SHADDAI may also be from the Akkadian sadu, meaning MOUNTAIN, or the Hebrew sadeh, meaning BREAST. EL SHADDAI would then be translated respectively as GOD OF THE MOUNTAIN or GOD OF THE BREAST. Variant spelling - EL SHADAI “Adonai appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as El Shaddai” (Exodus 6:3).

(Zohar. 1984. Tr. Harry Sperling et al. New York: Soncino. 3:130).

Jacob giving last instructions to his sons said:

Gen 49:24-25.(24) "But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God (El) of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel🙂25 Even by the God (El) of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty (Shaddai), who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb..."

(For other references to this same usage, see Isaiah 60:15-16 and Isaiah 66:10-13.)

For the full list of female imagery of God see the list on part I of Grounds for Submission

Since God transcends gender, neither gender, neither sex is enthroned in creation and neither is closer to God than the other. This brings us to the second point as a ground for gender eqaulity:

II.The Imago Daei

The image of God. Both male and female are made in the image of God.

Gensis 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth."

God created both male and female in the divine image.Notice, it says "male and female cretaed he them." Male and Female are two sides of the same coin, both are are created in the divine image, equal, together. Adam, in seeing Eve expressed "this is bone of my bone and flesh of my felsh," in other words, now I'm whole. The only suggestion of dominance here is dominion over the earth. One species, one race, human, divided into two equal gender, both created in God's image, and it makes no distinction about who has dominon.It does not say the man had it alone, or that he is first and woman second, it doesn't say man is the lord of the earth and the woman is his side kick. We have already discussed on Grounds of Submission that "helper" was not a subordinate term. This is clearly proff that the two are eaul; they both share dominon and no distiction is made btween them, as they are both images of he divine

* funny how you switched the subject just to defend yourself... i thought we are talking about the "WISDOM" in the book of Proverbs being depicted by a feminine pronoun? we are NOT talking about God... we are talking about "WISDOM"... 😉

gospel of judas...

heh, might as well say "the gospel of some guys who dont like christians."

Originally posted by peejayd
* funny how you switched the subject just to defend yourself... i thought we are talking about the "WISDOM" in the book of Proverbs being depicted by a feminine pronoun? we are NOT talking about God... we are talking about "WISDOM"... 😉
I did not......I just look outside the bible which is a sign of Wisdom..... 😉

Learn your history!

its good to look outside the bible, then you dont seem to be so dogmatically opinionated. but youll just end up in the same place you started, you might as well just read the NT for the real facts.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
its good to look outside the bible, then you dont seem to be so dogmatically opinionated. but youll just end up in the same place you started, you might as well just read the NT for the real facts.

How can you be so sure?

Originally posted by debbiejo
I did not......I just look outside the bible which is a sign of Wisdom..... 😉

Learn your history!

* if you didn't, it's irrelevant to quote my post... 😕

* learn to quote... 😉

I am currently in process of getting hold of the book with the Gospel of Judas.

I read just a begining of it and it seems interesting. However there are places where there are up to 9 or more lines missing. In all the important places, ironically.

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
its good to look outside the bible, then you dont seem to be so dogmatically opinionated. but youll just end up in the same place you started, you might as well just read the NT for the real facts.

Religion has Facts ?

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
gospel of judas...

heh, might as well say "the gospel of some guys who dont like christians."

Judas was a necessary part of Christianity. Without Judas, there would be NO crucifixion, and therefore no "salvation for your sins"

Give Judas more credit than that.

* the plan for Christ will still occur, with or without Judas Iscariot... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* the plan for Christ will still occur, with or without Judas Iscariot... 😉

*Sorry, but you will never see it.

* what i say is according to the Bible... the plan for Christ will still occur, with or without Judas Iscariot... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* what i say is according to the Bible... the plan for Christ will still occur, with or without Judas Iscariot... 😉

OK according to the bible, but why would you take the bible as anything more then a book?

* the Bible is a book for people who believes and follows the law of God and Christ... it's the same as how you believe and follow the doctrines of Buddhism, my friend... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* the Bible is a book for people who believes and follows the law of God and Christ... it's the same as how you believe and follow the doctrines of Buddhism, my friend... 😉

There is a small difference. Christianity focuses on events that happen outside of yourself, while Buddhism focuses on events that happen inside. For example, Christianity believes in an external god that you must make a contract with; Buddhism does not teach about God, but how to live a better life.

* love...

"Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."
John 15:13

"Let love be genuine; hate what is evil, hold fast to what is good;"
Romans 12:9

* faith...

"Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.
For by it the men of old received divine approval.
By faith we understand that the world was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was made out of things which do not appear."
Hebrews 11:1-3

* hope...

"And every one who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure."
I John 3:3

"More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance,
And endurance produces character, and character produces hope,
And hope does not disappoint us, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit which has been given to us."
Romans 5:3-5

* Christianity touches both... the doctrine of love, faith and hope... to believe in God and to live a better life... 😉

"So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love."
I Corinthians 13:13

^ It is still an outside god you have to contract with.

So, what you are saying is that Christianity is not self-centered and therefore superior to Buddhism?