Originally posted by The Sith'ari
He initially engages each character he faces with the force, [b]not with his saber. [/B]
He engaged Mace Windu on Boz Pity with the lightsaber. He engaged Obi-Wan and Anakin at Coruscant with the lightsaber. He engaged Assaj Ventress with the lightsaber. He starts his spar against Quinlan Vos with the lightsaber. That's about half his fights right there.
Ummm.... did you not watch the Clone Wars cartoon? You can't just go ahead and toss someone away with the Force. You need to wait for the perfect opprotunity. That's not easy when General Grievous is striking at you 16 blows per second and you have two of some of the best Jedi of the era attacking you all at once.
This takes place in the Jedi Temple. Your argument works under the assumption that they are in a wide open area where the combatants start many feet away from each other. Really depends on which room in the Temple, but this means that it will be relatively close quarters: not close enough for the trio to be hindered, but close enough so that Dooku's Force powers won't play a major factor.
Here's your proof. The times between Obi-Wan's first strike and his final pwnage are :50 and 1:39, and that's with Anakin, multiple camera pans, and all the taunts in-between, as well as us watching Kenobi get floored once before, then dealing with battle droids before running up to get thrashed. Take out all of those and you're looking at twenty seconds approximately.
Originally posted by Faunus
Here's your proof. The times between Obi-Wan's first strike and his final pwnage are :50 and 1:39, and that's with Anakin, multiple camera pans, and all the taunts in-between, as well as us watching Kenobi get floored once before, then dealing with battle droids before running up to get thrashed. Take out all of those and you're looking at twenty seconds approximately.
OMG, Faunus, thanks. I could give you a hug right now.
Here's your proof. The times between Obi-Wan's first strike and his final pwnage are :50 and 1:39, and that's with Anakin, multiple camera pans, and all the taunts in-between, as well as us watching Kenobi get floored once before, then dealing with battle droids before running up to get thrashed. Take out all of those and you're looking at twenty seconds approximately.
Wrong. Due to all the events and extras taking part during that duel, you cannot accurately pull a number out of your ass and say 20 seconds. That’s ridiculous.
Let’s consider Tyrannus. He will first try to attempt several Force attacks on Kenobi to challenge him (like Force Lightning). Kenobi, who will proceed to enter a lightsaber contest with the Count, can repel these Force attacks.
Dooku’s arrogance will make him toy around with Kenobi, who doesn’t hesitate to go all out. Tyrannus will try his taunts to break Kenobi’s focus, however considering how Anakin was able to resist it, Obi-Wan should persevere.
Tyrannus will realize by Kenobi’s speed and defense of Soresu that this match is going to be much harder. Dooku will then proceed to go all out with his Makashi. However, even Dooku’s Makashi will be hard pressed against Obi-Wan’s Soresu.
Tyrannus then uses his trump card: the Force. Whilst Kenobi’s defense is strong, and he’ll last for a little while longer, Dooku’s Force and lightsaber combinations will obliterate Kenobi.
This argument was heavily debated between Advent and I. In the end, we agreed on 40 seconds. I said it was the minimum time, Advent as maximum.
Taking everything in to consideration, the...
Net time for Kenobi survival: 40 seconds- 85 seconds.
Dooku can't just tap into the Force in 0.1 of a millisecond! Like I've stated earlier, whoever will be using the Force attacks will have to see an opprotunity to use the Force. Finding that opprotunity will be extremely difficult with Grievous striking at Dooku with 16 strikes a second, plus Kit Fisto and Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Let’s consider Tyrannus. He will first try to attempt several Force attacks on Kenobi to challenge him (like Force Lightning). Kenobi, who will proceed to enter a lightsaber contest with the Count, can repel these Force attacks.
Dooku’s arrogance will make him toy around with Kenobi, who doesn’t hesitate to go all out. Tyrannus will try his taunts to break Kenobi’s focus, however considering how Anakin was able to resist it, Obi-Wan should persevere.
Tyrannus will realize by Kenobi’s speed and defense of Soresu that this match is going to be much harder. Dooku will then proceed to go all out with his Makashi. However, even Dooku’s Makashi will be hard pressed against Obi-Wan’s Soresu.
Tyrannus then uses his trump card: the Force. Whilst Kenobi’s defense is strong, and he’ll last for a little while longer, Dooku’s Force and lightsaber combinations will obliterate Kenobi.'[/quote]Think, please. You're trying to tell me that if Dooku goes all out on Obi-Wan - without fooling around and humiliating him, as my original argument stated - he would take longer to pwn him than he did while fending of Skywalker at the same time? That's illogical at best. No, if Dooku really wants to get rid of Obi-Wan, he could do so in a few seconds flat.
This argument was heavily debated between Advent and I. In the end, we agreed on 40 seconds. I said it was the minimum time, Advent as maximum.Best dealt with by your own advice which, unlike mine, has no logical basis whatsoever:Taking everything in to consideration, the...
Net time for Kenobi survival: 40 seconds- 85 seconds.
Originally posted by General Kenobl
Wrong. Due to all the events and extras taking part during that duel, you cannot accurately pull a number out of your ass and say 40 seconds. That’s ridiculous.
And "85?" [sarcasm]That's not a random number at all.[/sarcasm]