Sora(Kingdom Hearts) vs Link(Legend of Zelda)

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Originally posted by BloodRain
The only Link that could physically contend with Sora2 is OoTLink, barely. Its just that his speed, agility, abilities and powers are even further below Sora's.

Other Link's could contend with the magical difference but all of the others are severely lacking in any physical feat.



Originally posted by CosmicComet
Link may have a FTL feat in the new Wii U Zelda (which they haven't revealed yet.)

According to a rumor there's some part in the story that has to do with a time dilation he finds himself in while in a dimension right beside Hyrule.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
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^Nah.

But wouldn't that be awesome? Anyway Sora, regrettably, still wins for now


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The OoT slows people down?

Yes, it does.

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Originally posted by BloodRain

The OoT slows people down? O.o Well the Mirror shield could reflect/absorb magic, but Sora is a knight first and mage second. Though assuming that he did I doubt Sora's reflected magic would do much damage to him as tbh they're not nearly as powerful as his strikes, even stored up.

Or speeds link up depending on how you look at it. Link's gold gaunlet/ hylian shield combination should defend link from sora's physical attacks. The only thing sora has over link is speed and mobility. With the inverted song, all he has is mobility.

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste

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Yes, it does.

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste



Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Or speeds link up depending on how you look at it. Link's gold gaunlet/ hylian shield combination should defend link from sora's physical attacks. The only thing sora has over link is speed and mobility. With the inverted song, all he has is mobility.

Well it would have to really speed him up to catch up to Sora's speed.

Nah, throwing pillars << Smacking building chunks around / Resisting Groundshaker's stomp. Sora could collide with the shields and likely break Link's arm.

Don't forget his abilities and magic.

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NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

I don't really buy the whole building chunks thing as that happens inside KH. The keyblade has powee over hearts (what KH is made of) and I doubt their made out of brick and mortar.
Inverted song of time+bunnyhood= 4X average speed.
Mirror shield+Master sword= no magic attacks
Golden gauntlet+hylian shield= very little physical damage.
Don't forget, with the great fairy's blessing, whatever sora's damage output normally is gets cut in half.

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Sora could collide with the shields and likely break Link's arm.

Sword through the face > Broken arm.

Also, those buildings were not > the pillar chuck. I have seen eet.

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I don't really buy the whole building chunks thing as that happens inside KH. The keyblade has powee over hearts (what KH is made of) and I doubt their made out of brick and mortar.
Inverted song of time+bunnyhood= 4X average speed.
Mirror shield+Master sword= no magic attacks
Golden gauntlet+hylian shield= very little physical damage.
Don't forget, with the great fairy's blessing, whatever sora's damage output normally is gets cut in half.

Doesn't invalidate the Groundshaker argument and Sora has building feats outside of Kingdom Hearts.
Also wouldn't Link need like six hands to make all of that work?

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Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
I don't really buy the whole building chunks thing as that happens inside KH. The keyblade has powee over hearts (what KH is made of) and I doubt their made out of brick and mortar.
Inverted song of time+bunnyhood= 4X average speed.
Mirror shield+Master sword= no magic attacks
Golden gauntlet+hylian shield= very little physical damage.
Don't forget, with the great fairy's blessing, whatever sora's damage output normally is gets cut in half.

Theres nothing to suggest that they're somehow empowered (if this is what you're saying) from that world, that and Sora preforms a greater level in 3D against several blocks at once when not in KH, so a weaker version doing a weaker feat makes sense. When I made the calc I used the same density of bricks [2kg/m, compare to a human 1kg and common stones 2.5kg] as while its a push to say its as dense as stone, we can tell that its both closer to rock than to flesh and that it acts in the same manner. So a light rock seems fair.
And not only is it heavier, but it moves faster too.

The Bunny Hood in OoT does not increase the wearers speed. If you want to touch on speed keep in mind that Sora is hypersonic by KH2, it would take more than 2.. even 4 times to equal speed. Further if we include Sora's drive forms which increase his strength, speed and give him access to duel blades.

The Mirror and Sword protect him from projectiles, Ie his Fire and Blizzard. His Thunder comes from above, and what I was really getting at was Magnet. Creating an orb in mid-air that will suspend Link whilst damaging him, leaving him helpless.

Half the damage from a character wielding more than twice the strength.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Sword through the face > Broken arm.

Also, those buildings were not > the pillar chuck. I have seen eet.

Soooo Sora stabs his face? O.o

Ohhhh but they are. The volume of it is 4,500m^3, when the pillars 350? Keep in mind that the width/depth of the building is about 9 times Riku's height, height being double that. Its quite large compared to the 10m tall pillar.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

3d he's asleep and has riku's help. Groundshaker is impressive, though.
I wouldn't say he's hypersonic. Mach 1 at the most.

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Sora has building feats outside of Xemnas' Kingdom Hearts so I'm not seeing why this is being disputed.

And 3D is weird. I'm honestly not sure how it ties into everything.

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Everything still acts exactly the same as it does normally, dream world doesn't give them dream strength. G.S's stomp would be throwing down thousands of tons easy.

Mhm, its been calced and Sora2 has a Mach 1, 3, 5, 6 and 15 feat.

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Sora kicks his ass

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Soooo Sora stabs his face? O.o

Not with Link's combat speed. uhuh

The volume of it is 4,500m^3

We have to be thinking of completely different buildings.

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Everything still acts exactly the same as it does normally, dream world doesn't give them dream strength. G.S's stomp would be throwing down thousands of tons easy.

Mhm, its been calced and Sora2 has a Mach 1, 3, 5, 6 and 15 feat.

The power to cut buildings come from reality shifts, which are only possible because of the environment being a dream. So yeah, he gets dream strength.
The groundshaker could have recoiled from being stabbed in the foot. Think, stepping on a lego. Where did he move that fast? Tge fastest I remember him going was the multi laser blocking, and you could still follow his movement if you paid attention.

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Not with Link's combat speed. uhuh

We have to be thinking of completely different buildings.

What is Link's combat speed?

NotAllThatEvil perpetual new guy.

He cuts arrows out of the air and "lightning times"(that ones a bit iffy)

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When has he cut arrows out of the air again?

I know the lightning timing thing is iffy, because I tried to argue in its favor for a few years before I realized that it doesn't work.

The best I can think of is him soloing an army near the end of Skyward Sword, and its implied that he did it quite fast, yet its hard
to get a figure for how many enemies he fought or how quick that time frame was. That's the problem with his developers being Japanese, its next to impossible to simply ask them on twitter to weigh in on these sorts of questions.

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
What is Link's combat speed?

Lightning tennis. For OoT Link. As for the others? Most can go toe to toe with Ganon in a sword fight who persistantly displays great combat speed across multiple games. (Including lightning tennis in OoT) Arrows that can pierce diamonds and stone, fly out of the atmosphere, pierce massive tornado wind walls to strike the god inside, etc, Ganon can casually avoid or block them all unless he's stunned first or distracted, as shown in OoT, WW, TP, probably others I'm forgetting. The Ganon fight in FSA is foggy atm. His first kill in TP is supersonic according to OBD.

Nintendo didn't commission art of Link doing something he can't do.

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When were there arrows that flew out of the atmosphere?