Sora(Kingdom Hearts) vs Link(Legend of Zelda)

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
No, it is not significantly more, that is literally all it is. Would you argue Sora's a more skilled fighter than Wolverine, or Batman, or that he could beat up Thor or The Hulk, because they do not fight like flashy anime characters? The only thing that his flashy fighting style shows is that he has some baseline superhuman ability. But it's useless for figuring relative combat prowess or power when dealing with other superhumans.

Batman? Sora would mop the floor with batman in about 2-3 seconds, are you kidding me? Wolverine as well. Hulk, maybe not since he's pretty well invincible. So the answer is absolutely astoundingly yes. Anime characters tend to fight like Jedi. That tops just about anyone who doesn't fight that way (notice I didn't say EVERYONE). It's a whole other level of fighting.

I assume you wouldn't say that the only difference between the fighting abilities of a Jedi and a regular Samurai is the Jedi is more stylish?

Batman? Sora would mop the floor with batman in about 2-3 seconds, are you kidding me? Wolverine as well. Hulk, maybe not since he's pretty well invincible. So the answer is absolutely astoundingly yes. Anime characters tend to fight like Jedi. That tops just about anyone who doesn't fight that way (notice I didn't say EVERYONE). It's a whole other level of fighting.

Sora with no super powers other than flight, unarmed, fist fight v.s. Batman, who wins?

Wolverine with no healing factor, Sora with nothing but flight, sword v.s. keyblade, who wins?

The point of including Hulk is that Hulk is a brawler who would completely crush Sora despite not fighting in a manner that's flashy.

The different between a Jedi's fighting capability and a Samurai's is that unlike the Samurai, a Jedi's weapon actually can cut through armour. Also there's no cutting edge or flats, it cuts omnidirectionally, making a wider variety of cuts viable. Also Jedi have effing precog, which is the only reason their 'style' works. they can still be killed by people without it.

Things that you should argue for:
Sora wins because (feats of destruction/speed)

Thngs you should not argue for:
Sora wins because he fights like a cartoon character.

Just so we're clear Hulk and Thor kill Sora.

He would beat Batman though.

Originally posted by AuraAngel

He would beat Batman though.

He might take hulk with equalized stats.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
With equalized stats? uhuh

Well yes. Magic is neato like that.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
He might take hulk with equalized stats.

I included Batman and Wolverine for their indisputable edge in martial skill despite less flashy styles, and Hulk and Thor for their also less flashy styles and the fact that their style of fighting has nothing at all to do with how hard they'd straight up kill most popular VG characters.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Well yes. Magic is neato like that.

Batman knows magic?

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Equalized magic stat. uhuh Sora with his fighting style, flight included, v.s. Batman, on his feet.

Still Sora since he has experience with the spells while Batman just got them.

Flashy anime fighting =/= skill, they just seem more impressive.

Just as anime fighting =/= no skill, as we're comparing it to irl limits which can't really be done.

Link and Sora are skilled for the same reasons: Both defeat opponents not just by overpowering them but though skill, and both can defeat already skilled opponents.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
Delayed reaction. I don't think sora got stronger, just that the buildings didn't act like brick and mortar.

MM comes to mind.

For what?

Cutting through them is just weird for me.

A link with both magic and stats.

Hitting them around is the impressive part. I don't remember MM Link being strong without the Goron mask, nor many useful skills outside of a few masks.

Its a good thing he has those masks then. His masks alone are probably obe of the most dangerous arsenals in zelda. Throw in his ocarina and he will waste.

Well, throwing on the Goron mask will make him significantly stronger, still slow. Bunny hood can make him faster. Bomb can facesplode all over. Zora can do those shockwaves. Giant make Link 50ft tall and able to destroy 40ft thinish rocks.

Alone they're useful to an extent.. tbh the only way they'd challenge Sora is in unison with one other.

Gorons are not slow. Especially with the inverted song of time. Don't forget his unditectability, his undead army, and his godhood.

Hence his use of the word unison.

Any of them could be useful, and it doesn't exactly take eons to switch.

But switching implies they can't be used in unison which is what he said. Granted he should be able to just wear a mask on top of another mask but I guess he can't lol.

Gorons are human speed+, that's slow here. Even with the song a Bunny Link wouldn't match Sora.

Undeads gets wiped put, unnoticed is when he's an immovable rock, and Fierce Deity doesn't have many showings to his name.. mask.

Magnet >

He can move and still be undetectable. And gorons are faster than race horses(rolling is there main method of attack, I count it as combat speed) .

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