Also, Thanos didn't use a skin tight body shield in my opinion... it was just sheer durability Smurph. 😬
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Classic, or huge Drax never showed the capability to kill Thanos (apparently they had it, but they never showed it). And since only current Drax could theoretically take Thanos's jaw off... Maxam would kill him. Or Thanos would one-shot him. Plus, Drax wouldn't get in the position to get behind Thanos and kill him. Since he's a brawler first and foremost, and would go up and attack right away.
Either way... it's called big blasts... and hugely powerful force fields (uh duh). I mean, do we assume Thanos lost his ability to make force fields for this fight? Not that he needs them IMO...
If Thanos shoots a powerful blast at the team at the start... he could kill LM, P, Cable, Grey, MR, Bishop, Storm, Sunfire, and X... being generous. And if Magneto is defending everyone... a weaker Thanos and Warlock destroyed Quaser's shield that much held off every powerhouse on Earth. Is it far fetched to say that a full powered Thanos can destroy Mag's shield? I don't really think so. 😬
Which would leave Magneto, Iceman, and Nate. 😐
Assuming the other members of the Infinity Watch do nothing. Plus, Maxam is basically Drax with the Power Gem + fighting skills. Minus flight I believe (been a while).
Also, there are no feats from Annihilation that make Moondragon weaker than she is. Losing to Thanos is not a low showing. It's pure ass juice to say otherwise. And wishful thinking. Me thinks I should reiterate on the Watch's mental defenses (and in Moondragon's case, a good showing).
Moondragon with the Mind Gem was unable to read Thanos's mind.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/WarlockInfinityWatch008-09.jpg
Also... since it could have some bearing on the fight... Thanos takes Moondragon's tp blast to no effect, and owns her and Phyla.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihilation2-006.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihilation2-007.jpg
Moondragon has trouble reading Warlock's mind when he's asleep, and then gets kicked out of his mind. *yes I know the rules... but current Warlock should not be in this thread... he's not quite Warlock yet, but meh. It's not like his mind defenses have been shown weaker to my knowledge. 🙂*
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss2of6-05.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss2of6-06.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss2of6-07.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss2of6-08.jpg
And from the same series, Moondragon gives Strange hell (Strange is a massively powerful TP'er, and is powerful either way), and then Strange falls from exhaustion).
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss3of6-16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss3of6-17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss3of6-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss3of6-19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss3of6-20.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss3of6-21.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/InfinityAbyss3of6-22.jpg
And Drax's minor tp defense...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/drax.jpg
Maxam is basically immune to tp as well... just don't feel like digging for a scan.
Also, isn't Magneto depowered recently until a couple comics that have no relevance? Since we bring up current versions so fast. Which should mean his shields are weaker as well. 🙂
Also, how exactly does psychic hell equate into them taking over Drax's mind? Wouldn't they be KO'ing him instead of taking over his mind? And if they did take over his mind, that means one, or two less people's focuses are towards the IW.
Anyone with a brain would know this is a no-brainer.
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Also, how does being beaten by Thor when he's with Surfer prove anything? How does that put him on Iron Man's level, since using that logic, Surfer would only be Iron Man level as well... 😐
Iron Man would never get a legit win over Thor when he's in WM. 😐
Just saying. 🙂
I'll respond to the post tomorrow. I don't have time or energy to debunk the same reiterated bias over and over again tonight.
Anyways Bran... even if it is just his durability, is shows that they won't be able to do jack shit to him. And we've all seen the power behind his forcefields anyways, so it hardly matters.
Thanos solos. Maxam and Adam Warlock just make this a curbstomp.
Originally posted by StylishSmurphI know... just felt like adding it. 🙂
Anyways Bran... even if it is just his durability, is shows that they won't be able to do jack shit to him. And we've all seen the power behind his forcefields anyways, so it hardly matters.
I really... really don't see how they would take Thanos out. Drax is their best hope... and that is wishful thinking/reaching pretty far...
🙂
I will respond to this tonight though, because I think it's funny.
Originally posted by Joey StacksDo you even understand what I type? My original post had nothing to do with how powerful Moondragon was with the mind gem, as I've stated three times now. It had to do with the awesome power of the mind gem, and why placing a safeguard on it was completely irrelevant to Warlock's mental defenses.
The point was it was logical for a safeguard to be placed on something that powerful, regardless of Moondragon or not. And, those three only have the potential to harness an outside force of awesome power. They don't reach that themselves.Kinda like Moondragon with her mind gem. 🙂
Again, that's completely irrelevant.
Just fun facts refuting stuff you brought up 🙂.
It wasn't a debate about "teh pheenix force!!!!11!" vs. Moondragon. You've refuted nothing. Hell, you haven't even made a decent response or debate. Instead you just try to connect words loosely and shove a smiley on the end in a poor, half-assed attempt to be condescending and witty. You fail in both respects.
Go back to elementary school, grasp the concept of Reading Comprehension, practice, and then we'll talk.
Also, don't try to be funny unless you can be. Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out because you can't make an actual debate concerning the original point.
In this case it's true though, so maybe you're giving the right impression... haermm
In which case, keep up the good work. 👆
Originally posted by Mr. SlippyfistThanos reacts to heralders, shields against Galactus, one-shots top tiers... but he'll be taken by surprise and be outmaneuvered by Drax.
I know... just felt like adding it. 🙂I really... really don't see how they would take Thanos out. Drax is their best hope... and that is wishful thinking/reaching pretty far...
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Sounds about right. 👆
Outside of Drax, they don't really have much of a prayer... and that's not even counting Maxam or Adam Warlock.
Originally posted by StylishSmurphThey'll also off the bat apparently know about Annihilation #4, and go straight for Drax's mind.
Thanos reacts to heralders, shields against Galactus, one-shots top tiers... but he'll be taken by surprise and be outmaneuvered by Drax.Sounds about right. 👆
Outside of Drax, they don't really have much of a prayer... and that's not even counting Maxam or Adam Warlock.
I know.
I counted three people individually that can give Maxam trouble.
Nate isn't KO'ing Maxam though, IMO. Mags would take a ton of time with Maxam (assuming he could theoretically take him down), and Iceman would take some time with him as well (assuming he could do the same thing). On another note... yes, Maxam can fly.
Let's not even get into Warlock... classic Warlock would take out any of these guys individually IMO (minus Iceman... just because I hate talking about him).
Current is up in the air, but he seems like a tank.
Which would make Maxam and Warlock pretty much more powerful than the entire team separately.
Add the team up, and it's pretty much a stomp. Thanos especially has mass experience dealing with armies. As does Warlock, and the Watch. Just saying. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Moondragon with the Mind Gem was unable to read Thanos's mind.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/WarlockInfinityWatch008-09.jpg
I agree with your post, but I believe the main reason Moondragon couldn't read his mind at the time was because he was in possession of the Reality Gem, and at the time, Moondragon couldn't read the minds of anyone possessing the Gems.
A couple posts up, you'll see him owning Moondragon in Infinity Abyss. 🙂
Originally posted by MightyEInherjarNo he didn't.
I agree with your post, but I believe the main reason Moondragon couldn't read his mind at the time was because he was in possession of the Reality Gem, and at the time, Moondragon couldn't read the minds of anyone possessing the Gems.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Why are you guys even arguing about what Drax can or can't do to Thanos? They are on the same team here.I can't believe this thread has gone on this long. Thanos could beat this team on his own.
He's talking about the Twelve mind controlling most of the watch and turning them back on Thanos.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Stupid question, but when's the last time someone actually mindraped Adam Warlock. I'm fairly sure he's got good TP defenses.
Considering the only time we've really seen someone go at him with TP and fail is someone who he put specific safeguard's against, I'd say the burden of proof is on the other side.
But I'm sure Slippy fist has a legion of out of context scans to prove his point and more common sense to ignore, say, isn't Thanos dead currently? I guess that automatically makes him a non factor 🙂
