The Twelve vs. Infinity Watch

How to argue like Smurph

Create points FOR the other side and fail at refuting said points you've created

Say something lame, like, your arguments are so comical, I will take time out my day to address your nonsensical points!

And contradict yourself.

Originally posted by StylishSmurph
I will respond to this tonight though, because I think it's funny.
Do you even understand what I type? My original post had nothing to do with how powerful Moondragon was with the mind gem, as I've stated three times now. It had to do with the awesome power of the mind gem, and why placing a safeguard on it was completely irrelevant to Warlock's mental defenses.

And you're missing my point (which is the only relevant point as you're trying to refute ME), potential doesn't matter if you can't use it. What has Moondragon ever done that makes her so much greater then these four? What has Moondragon done that puts her above even a Base Nate Grey (in terms of raw power)? What resistance does Warlock have that shows that these 4 working together wouldn't instantly down him? How do you know that Moondragon tapping the Mind Gem to match X-Man levels of power isn't enough to easily pierce his defenses? How do you know that these safeguards weren't just put in because Moondragon's natural telepathy is good enough to own Warlock?

The ONLY thing you have is how potentially awesome the Mind Gem is, which is where how potentially awesome the Grey family is comes from.

Three phoenix's might not be as powerful as the mind gem, but then again, that's so much "limitless" power and baseless assumptions as to where the power ends I don't think it's possible to quantify who'd be more powerful

Moondragon completely being able to tap the mind gem or Cable, X-Man and Jean all reaching their potential and linking up for psionic attacks.

It wasn't a debate about "teh pheenix force!!!!11!" vs. Moondragon.

That's stuff you've made up by pointing out how "potentially" powerful Moondragon could be (not that she ever showed this potential).

You've refuted nothing.

I think I broke him.

Hell, you haven't even made a decent response or debate.

I think he's broken.

Instead you just try to connect words loosely and shove a smiley on the end in a poor, half-assed attempt to be condescending and witty.

Yup definately broken.

Go back to elementary school, grasp the concept of Reading Comprehension, practice, and then we'll talk.

I just keep hitting the Wahhhhh Wahhh pedastal.

Also, don't try to be funny unless you can be.

http://www.zzounds.com/item--DAVGCB95

Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out

Yup I definately broke him, he's even attacking his own arguing style.

because you can't make an actual debate concerning the original point.

But you're the one devoting posts to how much your life sucks. 🙁

In this case it's true though, so maybe you're giving the right impression... haermm

In which case, keep up the good work. 👆

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out"

done with perfection

if I do say so myself

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Considering the only time we've really seen someone go at him with TP and fail is someone who he put specific safeguard's against, I'd say the burden of proof is on the other side.

But I'm sure Slippy fist has a legion of out of context scans to prove his point and more common sense to ignore, say, isn't Thanos dead currently? I guess that automatically makes him a non factor 🙂

She said his psychic defenses were strong, and plus, she also got into his mind. Before, she couldn't even read his mind... resurrection? I think so...

And last time he was dead, he was able to put Surfer through a world of hurt. Can't see how that's relevant. Wait... that just means that Drax won't be killing him.
However, we have Prof X with a bullet through his brain, as well. Moondragon is dead. I'm sure that's not what the threadstarter intended when he put them in this thread.
🙂

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Lulz.

She said his psychic defenses were strong, and plus, she also got into his mind. Before, she couldn't even read his mind... resurrection? I think so...

And last time he was dead, he was able to put Surfer through a world of hurt. Can't see how that's relevant. Wait... that just means that Drax won't be killing him.
However, we have Prof X with a bullet through his brain, as well. Moondragon is dead. I'm sure that's not what the threadstarter intended when he put them in this thread.
🙂

lulz

His psychic defenses could be strong as a result of the safeguards.

Of course Drax won't be killing him, he's not in the fight due to being dead.

Professor X is breathing just fine in the latest issue of Illuminati, but, of course, we could ignore common sense and out of context quotes, a common slippyfist tactic, and continue with this silly pissing contest.

PS: Moondragon being dead hurts your case, oh and Maxam also, currently, wanting to kill Adam Warlock on site, no matter the circumstance, hurts it as well.

🙂

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
lulz

His psychic defenses could be strong as a result of the safeguards.

Of course Drax won't be killing him, he's not in the fight due to being dead.

Professor X is breathing just fine in the latest issue of Illuminati, but of course we could ignore common sense and out of context quotes, a common slippyfist tactic, and continue with this silly pissing contest.

PS: Moondragon being dead hurts your case, oh and Maxam also, currently, wanting to kill Adam Warlock on site, no matter the circumstance, hurts it as well.

🙂

Actually, he was placed in the fight... and while he was dead, he was able to hurt the living. So, that is highly irrelevant of him being dead or not.

Illuminati doesn't display current events last I checked... Plus, MC came out yesterday... and Prof had a hole in his head. In even a week, he has a hole in his head. Whether he's dead or not, since you are so content to pull out current versions... he's almost useless currently. As is depowered Magneto... as is Moondragon.
I'm not the one who wanted to pull out the current versions thing at every turn.
However, we don't take being dead as an answer here, as most of these battles would never be on this forum. So... depowered Magneto is really the only thing. 🙂

How exactly is this a pissing contest? 😕

And yet, Maxam is teamed up with Warlock. So, whether or not he wants to kill him, is irrelevant, when they are working side by side. That's reaching to say the least.

Anyway, this is rather pointless to say the least. I'm done here. The stupidity/ignorance is pretty irritating.

🙂

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
And when he was recently

Stopped reading 🙂

I lol'd too hard and busted a blood vessell in my anus

PS: This issues Illuminati

was directly after the recent New Avengers.

Finally read

The entertainment value your post has brought into my life is of epic proportions. 🙂

So we make up rules for situations we don't like and disregard common sense when we can't make a valid point?

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
How to argue like Smurph

Create points FOR the other side and fail at refuting said points you've created

Say something lame, like, your arguments are so comical, I will take time out my day to address your nonsensical points!

And contradict yourself.

And you're missing my point (which is the only relevant point as you're trying to refute ME), potential doesn't matter if you can't use it. What has Moondragon ever done that makes her so much greater then these four? What has Moondragon done that puts her above even a Base Nate Grey (in terms of raw power)? What resistance does Warlock have that shows that these 4 working together wouldn't instantly down him? How do you know that Moondragon tapping the Mind Gem to match X-Man levels of power isn't enough to easily pierce his defenses? How do you know that these safeguards weren't just put in because Moondragon's natural telepathy is good enough to own Warlock?

The ONLY thing you have is how potentially awesome the Mind Gem is, which is where how potentially awesome the Grey family is comes from.

Three phoenix's might not be as powerful as the mind gem, but then again, that's so much "limitless" power and baseless assumptions as to where the power ends I don't think it's possible to quantify who'd be more powerful

Moondragon completely being able to tap the mind gem or Cable, X-Man and Jean all reaching their potential and linking up for psionic attacks.

It wasn't a debate about "teh pheenix force!!!!11!" vs. Moondragon.

That's stuff you've made up by pointing out how "potentially" powerful Moondragon could be (not that she ever showed this potential).

You've refuted nothing.

I think I broke him.

Hell, you haven't even made a decent response or debate.

I think he's broken.

Instead you just try to connect words loosely and shove a smiley on the end in a poor, half-assed attempt to be condescending and witty.

Yup definately broken.

Go back to elementary school, grasp the concept of Reading Comprehension, practice, and then we'll talk.

I just keep hitting the Wahhhhh Wahhh pedastal.

Also, don't try to be funny unless you can be.

http://www.zzounds.com/item--DAVGCB95

Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out

Yup I definately broke him, he's even attacking his own arguing style.

because you can't make an actual debate concerning the original point.

But you're the one devoting posts to how much your life sucks. 🙁

In this case it's true though, so maybe you're giving the right impression... haermm

In which case, keep up the good work. 👆

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out"

done with perfection

if I do say so myself

crylaugh

You STILL don't get it. This has nothing to do with Moondragon, just the potential of the mind gem. This isn't even relevant to the fight, it just had to do with your half-assed attempt to degrade Adam's mental defenses.

Reading. Comprehension.

And, my sarcasm isn't forced. I genuinely believe you're enough of a dumbass to validate any mocking post I aim at you.

Anyways... as I said, go back and read my posts. Try to come up with a response that's even remotely relevant to the discussion at hand. Then post.

Or, to quote another...

Insert a quarter. Try again.

Originally posted by StylishSmurph
crylaugh

You STILL don't get it. This has nothing to do with Moondragon,

The argument was about potential this entire time (it just so happens Moondragon never showed any) Jesus.

it just had to do with your half-assed attempt to degrade Adam's mental defenses.

You mean, my pointing out how irrelevant all your proof was because it revolves around a person he put a specific fail safe in?

Of course.

Reading. Comprehension.

Mine is great, how's yours?

And, my sarcasm isn't forced.

😆 😆 😆

I genuinely believe you're enough of a dumbass to validate any mocking post I aim at you.

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out"

Just an FYI

Anyways... as I said, go back and read my posts. Try to come up with a response that's even remotely relevant to the discussion at hand. Then post.

Oh, I've already destroyed the non points you have, hence your side banter to change the topic.

Insert a quarter. Try again.

Sad, was that a attempt at humor?

FAIL

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out"

For emphasis

One more time!

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out" - a broken shell of a man.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
The argument was about potential this entire time (it just so happens Moondragon never showed any) Jesus.

No. It didn't. It had to do with the power of the mind gem.

This was basically the conversation:

You: "ADam Walrok isnt a uber tp-er, cuz he had to put teh safeguards on teh mind GEM!!!1!"
Me: "Because the mind gem has incredible potential for power... putting safeguards on it doesn't mean anything"
You: "but mah team has acessed teh pheenix force!!!!11!! we has more potential!!!1"

Essentially.

You turned a comment about how blocking off full access to the mind gem into the PF vs. the mind gem. Nobody even mentioned the phoenix force, because it was completely IRRELEVANT.

Do I need to spell this out for you any further? I'm not sure I can. You can't even comprehend a post, much less formulate anything resembling a debate.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks

it just had to do with your half-assed attempt to degrade Adam's mental defenses.

You mean, my pointing out how irrelevant all your proof was because it revolves around a person he put a specific fail safe in?

Good debating, champ. 👆

Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Reading. Comprehension.

Mine is great, how's yours?

And, my sarcasm isn't forced.

😆 😆 😆

I genuinely believe you're enough of a dumbass to validate any mocking post I aim at you.

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out"

Just an FYI

Seriously, if you just leave now, I'll understand. At this point, it's really just damage control for you.

Originally posted by Joey Stacks

Anyways... as I said, go back and read my posts. Try to come up with a response that's even remotely relevant to the discussion at hand. Then post.

Oh, I've already destroyed the non points you have, hence your side banter to change the topic.

Again, props to your amazing debating skillz!

👆

Originally posted by Joey Stacks

Insert a quarter. Try again.

Sad, was that a attempt at humor?

FAIL

But you still don't seem to get it.

Shall I draw you a picture next time?

My punching bag is back

lulz

I thought I scared you away.

lulz

Originally posted by StylishSmurph
FFS... crylaugh

No. It didn't. It had to do with the power of the mind gem.

This was basically the conversation:

You: Warlock is immune to TP or highly resistant
Me: No he isn't, in fact he's had to put restrictions on a mind gem.
You: The mind gem is totally awesome, it works on its own and the user has no bearing on it effectiveness whatsoever.
Me: Who cares about potential, you want to talk potential? We have 3 potential Phoenix level telepaths. What has Moondragon shown with the mind gem that puts her over even Shaman by himself, let alone the 4 that has made you suggest that Adam can resist them.
You:Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaambalance
Slippyfist: *posts out of context scans followed by "🙂" smiley*

Good debating, champ. 👆

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out"

If you can't debate, at least attempt to banter.

You were the one diverting the topic to cover your poor argument, unfortunately for you, your low level troll tactics has met a God.

My sarcasm isn't forced. Yours, however, appears to reuire quoting another because you can't think of any decent responses.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH pedistal

Seriously, if you just leave now, I'll understand.

No way, you're a fun little punching bag. I've never seen someone fail so miserably at debating and sidetrack a topic soooo far.

You say, but you still attempt to refute things I never said,

You're confusing myself with you.

and instead post meaningless bullshit that holds no bearing on the debate at hand.

You're confusing myself with you.

Again, props to your amazing debating skillz!

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out" 👆

It was a witty way of telling you to at least try a different route.

wit·ty /ˈwɪti/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[wit-ee] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective, -ti·er, -ti·est. 1. possessing wit in speech or writing; amusingly clever in perception and expression: a witty writer.
2. characterized by wit: a witty remark.
3. British Dialect. intelligent; clever.

I see nothing in any of your posts that fit this description.

Shall I draw you a picture next time?

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out" 👆

👆

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out" 👆

Remember this the next time you make a post, it might resemble something big people post!

👆

Smurph is obviously not on Joey Stacks.

Joey Stacks, this better be the last of your spamming.

Oh look

mod to the rescue! 👆

Remember the golden rule

"Forced sarcasm or mockery usually just makes you look like you need a way out"

Lulz... this should be good. 🙂

My dad can beat up your dad 😬