Thing vs Colossus

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I believe Ben is more then Class 80. I've seen scans of Sasquatch clearly referring to Thing as his physical superior in 'Infinity Crusade.' Also, in Avengers: The Initiative #5 or #6, Thing is helping train the rookies at Camp Hammond and Justice (Vance Astro) refers to it as Class 100 training. I'd take an in-comic reference as a Class 100 over a handbook anyday.
Co-signed up until the result. In my humble opinion, I think Thing's heart and fighting spirit equalize Colossus' slight advantages in durability and speed.

I'd throw them a split 5/10.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Bad story, writer admitted he didn't research Sasquatch and used him as comic relief in the book. I also have several scans of Thing saying he isn't as strong as Sasquatch, and other people saying Sasquatch is stronger then Thing

Originally posted by spidey-dude
once again ben is 80 colossus is 100 everyone wants ben to be 100 these days just cause hes more popular now

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I didn't like 'Infinity Crusade' either, but Sasquatch was the one who said it. He just outright admitted it. Could you direct me to a link where the author took back his writing? Or to the scans where Thing admits he's not as strong as Sasquatch? I wouldn't mind conceding the point if Thing has admitted it more recently than Sasquatch did in 'Infinity Crusade.'

Sadly no as it was a newsrama interview and it's in the archives and I can't find it anymore. Hasn't been a recent statement of it, but as noted Sasquatch has near limitless strength, and when he fought Exo-Suit Thing which Reed said would "restore most of the strength he used to possess" and "nearly as powerful as before" Walter destroyed him pretty badly and I mean badly. Even Exiles Sasquatch fought 616 Thing, and in a hand grip Sasquatch was cracking Thing's hand

Thing admitted, "Sheesh! Your bigger, stronger, talk better than me and played proball! There must be something I can beat you at!",

1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/72652_vgrim3.jpg

Ranark saying Sasquatch is "far stronger" then Thing

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_19.jpg

Super Skrull saying he is stronger then Thing realizes he isn't strong enough to stop Sasquatch

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10e.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10d.jpg

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I didn't like 'Infinity Crusade' either, but Sasquatch was the one who said it. He just outright admitted it. Could you direct me to a link where the author took back his writing? Or to the scans where Thing admits he's not as strong as Sasquatch? I wouldn't mind conceding the point if Thing has admitted it more recently than Sasquatch did in 'Infinity Crusade.'
Considering that Avengers: The Initiative is extremely recent and characters inside the comic refer to training with Thing as training with class 100 threats, I'd take in-comic references over silly handbooks. And per KMC consensus and common sense, you ought to also. And let's be honest, Thing was and will always be more popular then Colossus. His popularity has nothing to do with his strength levels otherwise he wouldn't get stomped by Hulk in pretty much every encounter they've ever had.

Here's a scan that suggests the Thing gets stronger all the time.

http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ff543dcp0023sh0.jpg

I haven't read the comic, so it may be that something else cotradicts this or makes it non-cannon, but here ya go anyway.

It makes sense though, as it's been said Thing was able to lift 5 tons back in his first appearances in the early 60's. In the early 80's he was said to be lifting 85 tons. It seems unlikely he wouldn't be class 100 by now, possibly even up to 200 tons, although I doubt Marvel would make the Thing that strong (and thus lose everyman/underdog appeal).

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sadly no as it was a newsrama interview and it's in the archives and I can't find it anymore. Hasn't been a recent statement of it, but as noted Sasquatch has near limitless strength, and when he fought Exo-Suit Thing which Reed said would "restore most of the strength he used to possess" and "nearly as powerful as before" Walter destroyed him pretty badly and I mean badly. Even Exiles Sasquatch fought 616 Thing, and in a hand grip Sasquatch was cracking Thing's hand

Thing admitted, "Sheesh! Your bigger, stronger, talk better than me and played proball! There must be something I can beat you at!",

1. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g159/A_Flight9/72652_vgrim3.jpg

Ranark saying Sasquatch is "far stronger" then Thing

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_19.jpg

Super Skrull saying he is stronger then Thing realizes he isn't strong enough to stop Sasquatch

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10e.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10d.jpg

Originally posted by spidey-dude
training doesnt do a damn thing to his strength level

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
'Infinity Crusade' scan appears to be more recent then your first scan. But the added Ranark scan serves to bolster your position. The Super Skrull scan is very very arguable. A full on shot by Thing to Sasquatch, even being stronger, may not down him immediately and vice-versa, whether or not the puncher was indeed stronger. You would have to be vastly stronger to one-shot foes of their durability and I think we both agree that despite our differing positions, either character vastly outclasses the other. For my part, I tend to rely on the most up-to-date scan, but with the first scan and Ranark scan, I wouldn't be surprised if in the future, Sasquatch were to come out the winner in another side-by-side comparison.

As do I, and Sasquatch is still said to have incalcuable strength due to the source of his power the Elder God, Tanaraq. Check out Omega Flight to see his vast power. Also with the exo-suit fight, Walter defeated Thing so badly and so quickly Thing didn't even land a hit on him. Also in an Infinity Crusade tie-in Sasquatch actually one-shotted She Hulk, who is said in the handbooks to be near or equal to Thing's strength. So that contradicts his comment he made to Thing, plus on-panel feats Sasquatch has done

However, were getting off-topic now so we can leave it at that

Originally posted by snoopdogg
[B]BTW here is a few scans to show Colossus has some heart/courage. By posting these scans I am in no way saying Colossus has more heart than Ben. But he's damn close if not equal at best.

Colossus will fight until his dying breath if need be:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20agillity%20and%20speed/Colossuscouragexmunl29.jpg

He will protect his friends no matter the cost:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossus%20agillity%20and%20speed/X-MenClanDestine2.jpg

I love my bumping.

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Thing has superior strength feats.

Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Thing has superior strength feats.

Let's see them.

Colossus ftw. Thing is still cool.

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Colossus has never decked Galactus 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Bentley
Colossus has never decked Galactus 😖hifty:

Colossus wins.

He's done better against the Hulk(I've been waiting years to say that).

6-7/10 thing imo.

Colossus 7-8/10.