Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?

Started by Mr Parker32 pages
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Disprove my points, all of them. You can't honestly say that a man elected to teh office of president is infallible. All you do is prove my points about people who subscribe to the idea of personality cults. Explain to me one thing that the "re-born" christian, George W. Bush has doen that's christian, and everyone can laugh at you ignorant logic.

He sure does have ignorant logic.He ignores facts that Bush Sr was the former director of the CIA,something the major media failed to tell voters when he was running for president.The CIA is a wicked organization that makes the third reich look like choir boys.the son of a former director of the CIA does not have our best interests in mind.Only on whats good for the government institutions and his politician buddies.

Yes frankly

Originally posted by Mr Parker
He sure does have ignorant logic.He ignores facts that Bush Sr was the former director of the CIA,something the major media failed to tell voters when he was running for president.The CIA is a wicked organization that makes the third reich look like choir boys.the son of a former director of the CIA does not have our best interests in mind.Only on whats good for the government institutions and his politician buddies.

you say the c.i.a. is more cruel than hitler's SS? and would you care to compare and explain how?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Bush is another in a on going line of bull-shit presidents. However, others haven't been as influential. But, anyone who wants to pretend that he doesn't have an agenda, is fooling themselves. 9/11, the war in Iraq, foreign policy, etc, etc....

I would shit my pants over a president that "got the joke"


Capt. Fantastic: "Disprove my points, all of them. You can't honestly say that a man elected to teh office of president is infallible. All you do is prove my points about people who subscribe to the idea of personality cults. Explain to me one thing that the "re-born" christian, George W. Bush has doen that's christian, and everyone can laugh at you ignorant logic."

Ok, this should be easy.
"Bush is another in a on going line of bull-shit presidents."
---Thats an opinion, not a fact, easily based of byas and personal feelings. 😛 Next.

"However, others haven't been as influential."
---Looking at the sad way the majority of Americans think today about Bush, I dont think "being influential" is top on his priority list. And maybe give some examples of this influence you speak of.

"But, anyone who wants to pretend that he doesn't have an agenda, is fooling themselves."
---Everybody's got an agenda. You and me have an agenda; everyone does. It is what his agenda is ABOUT that you really mean. Bush's agenda is to protect America, protect people elsewhere in the world (just as important as Americans, we all share the same planet), and to hopefully widen relations with foreign (especially Middle-Eastern) nations. How well he did is up for you to decide of course but THAT was his agenda and it seems pretty good to me. There was no secret plan he had for 'finishing his father's work' or 'taking over America and the world' or whatever some people say...

"9/11, the war in Iraq, foreign policy, etc, etc...."
---9/11? Dont tell me you are siding with the idiots like Parker who think Bush had something to do with that. Thats clear BS made up by the media and we all know it. War in Iraq? Are you suggesting he had some secret plan for invading Iraq? Mind stating what that might be? Foreign policy? What about it? Thats quite a broad range with subjects of good and bad change during his presidency?

There I asmwered your questions. If you have any better points please tell all, I'll be glad to contradict them. I have argued against people with a hundred times the apparent knowledge you have on this issue and always won. Its called logic. 😎

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
There I asmwered your questions. If you have any better points please tell all, I'll be glad to contradict them. I have argued against people with a hundred times the apparent knowledge you have on this issue and always won. Its called logic. 😎

If those are the facts you're going to run with, then I really don't need to respond.

Are you even listening to yourself? He, being the president, the head of his administration, where the buck stops, has lied to us repeatedly. He's ignored facts about the environment and allowed corporate interests to rape our planet.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost we all share the same planet

This is a link to the Natural Resource Defense Council's compilation on the Bush administrations environmental record, and it's only up to 2005 http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/2005.asp

The whole world saw him sitting in on a meeting, via video conference, about the devestation of the levees. Michael Brown, his man in FEMA, said this is going to devestate these levees and he didn't ask a single question. He went to New Orleans over 130 times in the couple of months after Katrina. If he didn't know that was a MAJOR FU*K UP, why the need to go so many times?

He sat motionless for seven minutes after Andy Card told him the country was under attack on 9/11. Despite the things I learned of recently to make me question just how involved he was in 9/11, the other facts remain. He stood up and said we are going to get the people who did this, and we still don't have Osama bin Laden. But we got Saddam, don't we? Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, you know who they are, right? Being so informed? Started lobbying President Clinton for an invasion of Iraq in 1998!

Every reporter in Iraq says it's getting worse. It's all well and good to sit in your office on American soil and pass judgment on the situation, but the people who are there every day ducking bullets with the troops are saying it's a nightmare that is only going to get worse and worse. The administration talks about bringing our troops home as soon as the mission is over, is building military bases with Burger Kings and health spas! Yeah, they're just a few years away from coming home. Why is that? BECAUSE THEY KNEW WE'D BE THERE FOR YEARS WHEN THIS STARTED! This war was fed to us as the easy victory that was the first Gulf War. The spreading of freedom apparently goes hand in hand with awarding Halliburton and other special interests the contracts to go into Iraq and strip mine it. These reporters are also saying that they talk to the Iraqi people and they tell them there weren't terrorists there before the war, but now they're everywhere.

The man barters with Nuclear secrets, passing them out to those he deems acceptable.

He "ignored" memoes that said that 9/11 was gonna be a b*tch. His own party members on the Afganistan senate commision called him the day before and said the shit was going to hit the fan.

It goes on and on and on....just like your support of the personailty cult that keeps him in power.

"The whole world saw him sitting in on a meeting, via video conference, about the devestation of the levees. Michael Brown, his man in FEMA, said this is going to devestate these levees and he didn't ask a single question. He went to New Orleans over 130 times in the couple of months after Katrina. If he didn't know that was a MAJOR FU*K UP, why the need to go so many times?"

Because he actually cares about the people there, more than what a lot of people would do. And Id like to see that clip with the thing about Bush and the levees. And who is to say he doesnt ask questions later? Did you know Roosevelt had warning about Pearl Harbor, it wasnt very accurate and the Japanese tricked them into thinking it wasnt going to happen because they were allies, and then BOOM. Was it Roosevelts fault?

"He sat motionless for seven minutes after Andy Card told him the country was under attack on 9/11. Despite the things I learned of recently to make me question just how involved he was in 9/11, the other facts remain. He stood up and said we are going to get the people who did this, and we still don't have Osama bin Laden. But we got Saddam, don't we? Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, you know who they are, right? Being so informed? Started lobbying President Clinton for an invasion of Iraq in 1998!"

-Actually when Bush was told of 9/11 he was reading to children in a school.
-Yeh Id like to see you go get Osama. It aint as easy as just asking where he is... We'll get him eventually anyways. What are you saying?

"Every reporter in Iraq says it's getting worse. It's all well and good to sit in your office on American soil and pass judgment on the situation, but the people who are there every day ducking bullets with the troops are saying it's a nightmare that is only going to get worse and worse. The administration talks about bringing our troops home as soon as the mission is over, is building military bases with Burger Kings and health spas! Yeah, they're just a few years away from coming home. Why is that? BECAUSE THEY KNEW WE'D BE THERE FOR YEARS WHEN THIS STARTED! This war was fed to us as the easy victory that was the first Gulf War. The spreading of freedom apparently goes hand in hand with awarding Halliburton and other special interests the contracts to go into Iraq and strip mine it. These reporters are also saying that they talk to the Iraqi people and they tell them there weren't terrorists there before the war, but now they're everywhere."

---No its actually getting better. And NOT every reporter is saying it is getting worse, most do because they make money for giving bad news that is far from the truth. The war is over. There arent huge battles going on anymore- its left to gurilla warfare.
---Of course we were going to be in Iraq for a long time! Countries take stabilization after governments are overthrown! We still have a lot of troops in Afghanistan and I dont see anyone complaining about them! Hmm....
---And there were tons of terrorists before the war. They just werent blowing themselves up.
---And where did that info about the mining come from?

"The man barters with Nuclear secrets, passing them out to those he deems acceptable."
--O does he? Please tell all.

"He "ignored" memoes that said that 9/11 was gonna be a b*tch. His own party members on the Afganistan senate commision called him the day before and said the shit was going to hit the fan."
---This is what smart people know as propaganda- mostly manufactured propaganda. He did not know about 9/11 or else he would have stopped it.

"It goes on and on and on....just like your support of the personailty cult that keeps him in power."

--Personality cult? Now THATS one I havent heard...

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
If those are the facts you're going to run with, then I really don't need to respond.

Are you even listening to yourself? He, being the president, the head of his administration, where the buck stops, has lied to us repeatedly. He's ignored facts about the environment and allowed corporate interests to rape our planet.
This is a link to the Natural Resource Defense Council's compilation on the Bush administrations environmental record, and it's only up to 2005 http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/2005.asp

The whole world saw him sitting in on a meeting, via video conference, about the devestation of the levees. Michael Brown, his man in FEMA, said this is going to devestate these levees and he didn't ask a single question. He went to New Orleans over 130 times in the couple of months after Katrina. If he didn't know that was a MAJOR FU*K UP, why the need to go so many times?

He sat motionless for seven minutes after Andy Card told him the country was under attack on 9/11. Despite the things I learned of recently to make me question just how involved he was in 9/11, the other facts remain. He stood up and said we are going to get the people who did this, and we still don't have Osama bin Laden. But we got Saddam, don't we? Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, you know who they are, right? Being so informed? Started lobbying President Clinton for an invasion of Iraq in 1998!

Every reporter in Iraq says it's getting worse. It's all well and good to sit in your office on American soil and pass judgment on the situation, but the people who are there every day ducking bullets with the troops are saying it's a nightmare that is only going to get worse and worse. The administration talks about bringing our troops home as soon as the mission is over, is building military bases with Burger Kings and health spas! Yeah, they're just a few years away from coming home. Why is that? BECAUSE THEY KNEW WE'D BE THERE FOR YEARS WHEN THIS STARTED! This war was fed to us as the easy victory that was the first Gulf War. The spreading of freedom apparently goes hand in hand with awarding Halliburton and other special interests the contracts to go into Iraq and strip mine it. These reporters are also saying that they talk to the Iraqi people and they tell them there weren't terrorists there before the war, but now they're everywhere.

The man barters with Nuclear secrets, passing them out to those he deems acceptable.

He "ignored" memoes that said that 9/11 was gonna be a b*tch. His own party members on the Afganistan senate commision called him the day before and said the shit was going to hit the fan.

It goes on and on and on....just like your support of the personailty cult that keeps him in power.

Wars are almost never quick.

When soldiers marched off to WWI in 1914 they thought they'd be "home by Christmas".....how wrong they were.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Because he actually cares about the people there, more than what a lot of people would do. And Id like to see that clip with the thing about Bush and the levees.

Look it up. Unless you can't. In which case, let me know.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
-Actually when Bush was told of 9/11 he was reading to children in a school.

Actually, he was listening to someone else read to teh children. Likely because he can't pronounce big words like "run", "oh shit" and "do something, it's your job".

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
-Yeh Id like to see you go get Osama. It aint as easy as just asking where he is... We'll get him eventually anyways. What are you saying?

Sure, I'm gonna go get Osama. One lone man on a dialysis machine against a single white man in the middle east that doesn't have a FU*KING ARMY...oh, Bush does? Sorry! I guess if we raise the bounty from 10 to 25 to 100 million bucks, peasants in teh middle east will cough him up. RIIIght.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
---No its actually getting better. And NOT every reporter is saying it is getting worse, most do because they make money for giving bad news

You only illustrate that you don' read the newpapers or watch the news, other than FOX News. Wonder where you learned that habit? Couldn't be from a President that admits to not reading teh news papers.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
---Of course we were going to be in Iraq for a long time!

Hummm?...Not what I was told.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
---And there were tons of terrorists before the war. They just werent blowing themselves up.

The terrorists have been blowing themselves up forever! You apparently aren't watching the "reality" shows where cameras are following the troops during their deployment in Iraq. Discovery Times Channel has it's benefits. In fact, it's the only reality TV I watch. And when the troops are talking to peope in the streets, I'm sure they're editing the arabic translation of people saying: "They weren't here before you people got here." Next time you're sittin ghtere watching some country bumpkin sing a shitty U2 cover, try flipping teh switch to teh country bumpkin that is dodging bullets in Iraq so you can be fed your bullshit lies.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
"The man barters with Nuclear secrets, passing them out to those he deems acceptable."
--O does he? Please tell all.

Please, you know he passes them out to "darkies" he thinks are keeping other "darkies" in check. It's lazy governing, and it's effecting all of us for generations to come. Iraq was one of those "darkie" countires we used to bank roll and trade secrets with.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
"He "ignored" memoes that said that 9/11 was gonna be a b*tch.

This is a fact. Look it up, while you're expanding your mind on teh topic.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
---This is what smart people know as propaganda-

Smart...like you? Yeah, real well informed. Outside the filter of pop culture that is, right?

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
--Personality cult? Now THATS one I havent heard...

doesn't suprise me you don't know what a personality cult is. You fell for it.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
When soldiers marched off to WWI in 1914 they thought they'd be "home by Christmas".....how wrong they were.

doesn't matter how wrong they were when they got there. What matters is what they were told to get them there.

The Worst US Prez . . . . depends:

If its on character; Nixon, Dubya and Ronald "We bomb in 5 minutes" Reagan would be at the running.

If its on performance; it has to be Herbert Hoover. Great Depression anyone?

Originally posted by Templares
The Worst US Prez . . . . depends:

If its on character; Nixon, Dubya and Ronald "We bomb in 5 minutes" Reagan would be at the running.

If its on performance; it has to be Herbert Hoover. Great Depression anyone?

Character: Nixon

Performance: Harding

I say Bush overall, all the way. Flat out.

Bush is probably the most incompetent President ever. A U.S. President is suppose to be a great leader. When I think of a great leader, I don't think of George W. Bush. I think of Reagan, John Adams, Lincoln, Washington, Um, A. Jackson. Not Dubya.. c'mon

If you google the word "Failure", guess what the first entry is. "The Biography of George W. Bush", lolol.

I'm not even kidding, do the search for yourself if you doubt it.

lol

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I say Bush overall, all the way. Flat out.

Bush is probably the most incompetent President ever. A U.S. President is suppose to be a great leader. When I think of a great leader, I don't think of George W. Bush. I think of Reagan, John Adams, Lincoln, Washington, Um, A. Jackson. Not Dubya.. c'mon

If you google the word "Failure", guess what the first entry is. "The Biography of George W. Bush", lolol.

I'm not even kidding, do the search for yourself if you doubt it.

lol

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you obviously have no knowledge of any of the 42 previous presidents if you honestly believe that...

Here are some appr ratings I found for some of the more recent presidents. These are all end-of-term ratings.

Bill Clinton(2 terms, D, 2001) 65%

Ronald Reagan (2 terms, R, 1989) 64%

Dwight Eisenhower(2 terms, R, 1961) 59%

John F. Kennedy(partial term, D, 1963) 63%

George Bush(1 term, R, 1993) 56%

Gerald Ford(partial term, R, 1977) 53%

Lyndon Johnson(1+ terms, D, 1969) 49%

Jimmy Carter(1 term, D, 1981) 34%

Richard Nixon(1+ terms, R, 1974) 24%

As of today, GW's rating is between 33 and 36%

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
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you obviously have no knowledge of any of the 42 previous presidents if you honestly believe that...

During the birth of this counrty, Bush would've been looked at as an ass. Like a fcukin' joke.

Can you imagine a conversation between Geogre Washington and George W.

lololololololololol

Just imagine it.

Bush wouldn't get more than three sentences out.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Bush wouldn't get more than three sentences out.

That's funny. You're the same kid who said this in the 'Bush = Hitler' thread:

Originally posted by Tangible God
I wish people would realize that. Everyone thinks that Afghanistan and Iraq became shitholes only AFTER the U.S. invaded. They were before, and they are now. Only now, the countries aren't run by men and organizations who won't kill and murder innicent civilians.

I guess consistency and clarity of thought are some characteristics you and ol' Dubya both have a great deal of trouble with...

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
That's funny. You're the same kid who said this in the 'Bush = Hitler' thread:

I guess consistency and clarity of thought are some characteristics you and ol' Dubya both have a great deal of trouble with...

I appreciate being called a kid. And my views towards the guy's policies have nothing to do with my views of his way of speaking, it's a hesitated drawl, everyone knows that. Even with his wooden teeth, Washington would out-orrate him.

Oi... I deserve this for not being specific. 🙁

That also makes very little sense, but - again - is funny.

*sigh*