Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Re. Reagan:

Well, there was the Iran-Contra affair, the bombing in Beruit, terrorist support in Nicaragua, his support of apartheid-era South Africa, his support of the Pinochet military junta in Chile, and he was a pretty dominant figure in the emergence of the American conservative movement.

Also don't forget we received a new economic model Reaganonmics! Where they threw out calculators and computers and used only paper and pencils so if there were mistakes later on they could change them to make them work properly🙂

JFK-----------Cuban Missile Crisis, Bay of pigs. At least when the Bush's invaded they got her done so to speak 😱

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Re. Reagan:

Well, there was the Iran-Contra affair, the bombing in Beruit, terrorist support in Nicaragua, his support of apartheid-era South Africa, his support of the Pinochet military junta in Chile, and he was a pretty dominant figure in the emergence of the American conservative movement.

Originally posted by soleran30
By allowing 16 year olds to vote there wouldn't be any "real" risk persay. What are they going to have a larger turnout at the poles? Maybe a few 16 year old guys will vote for a female president if she is hot enough.................

No way in hell should 16 year olds be allowed to vote.

Originally posted by RedAlertv2
No way in hell should 16 year olds be allowed to vote.

Why not? Any reason? No? Thought so.

He just said they shouldn't be able to vote in Hell, that's all.

Originally posted by botankus
He just said they shouldn't be able to vote in Hell, that's all.

True, true, forgive me, for I am strange.

Originally posted by soleran30
Cuban Missile Crisis, Bay of pigs. At least when the Bush's invaded they got her done so to speak 😱

really? whoa thats a relief. so the iraq and afghanistan wars are over. thanks for the awesome news.

Originally posted by PVS
really? whoa thats a relief. so the iraq and afghanistan wars are over. thanks for the awesome news.

I say the invasion worked I never said they were done............

Originally posted by soleran30
I say the invasion worked I never said they were done............

Can't you really say that the invasion worked only when you see a final success?

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Can't you really say that the invasion worked only when you see a final success?

It was meant to be more light hearted just like my reaganomics piece. JFK's barely made into cuba with the bay of pigs just to the beach head, Bush stormed right into the country. Thats all I was saying in a light hearted piece.

Originally posted by soleran30
It was meant to be more light hearted just like my reaganomics piece. JFK's barely made into cuba with the bay of pigs just to the beach head, Bush stormed right into the country. Thats all I was saying in a light hearted piece.

O.k., got it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why not? Any reason? No? Thought so.

18 years olds are to stupid to vote letting 16 years old vote won't really help.

Actually we should have IQ tests before voting if you don't score above a certain number you shouldn't be allowed to vote and after that we should have other tests to find out if you know who you are voting for and know the political points of that particulair party before your vote is cast. That would save us all a lot of trouble and make the country a hell of a lot better, it would also reduce the lines at the voting offices.

Originally posted by Fishy
18 years olds are to stupid to vote letting 16 years old vote won't really help.

Actually we should have IQ tests before voting if you don't score above a certain number you shouldn't be allowed to vote and after that we should have other tests to find out if you know who you are voting for and know the political points of that particulair party before your vote is cast. That would save us all a lot of trouble and make the country a hell of a lot better, it would also reduce the lines at the voting offices.

Well. I don't think that 16 year olds are any more stupid than 18 year olds...so I don't see the point. This lie "18" is jsut randomly selected...makes no sense.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well. I don't think that 16 year olds are any more stupid than 18 year olds...so I don't see the point. This lie "18" is jsut randomly selected...makes no sense.

Well I wouldn't want to let 18 year olds vote either, but unfortunally there is a age where people become adults, and with that have the right to vote. Far to early, but I see no reason to allow even more idiots to vote... Besides we don't get a lot of rights until we are 18 unless all of those laws are changed as well 16 year olds shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I mean it would be stupid if I could decide who would lead this country but couldn't smoke, drive, drink, go out into town on a saturday night, order pizza, get my own insurance policy, order pizza, sign contracts.

Well you know everything...

Originally posted by Fishy
18 years olds are to stupid to vote letting 16 years old vote won't really help.

Actually we should have IQ tests before voting if you don't score above a certain number you shouldn't be allowed to vote and after that we should have other tests to find out if you know who you are voting for and know the political points of that particulair party before your vote is cast. That would save us all a lot of trouble and make the country a hell of a lot better, it would also reduce the lines at the voting offices.

Elitists on parade................can I come to the march!🙂 Seeing as IQ tests would prevent a great deal of people even qualifying to vote if you made the score to be oh say 140 I think thats the baseline for Mensa however people like that tend to be more absorbed in their interests and wouldn't even show up to vote they would be to busy playing mind puzzles and such 😆

130 is the minimum for Mensa.

Originally posted by soleran30
Elitists on parade................can I come to the march!🙂 Seeing as IQ tests would prevent a great deal of people even qualifying to vote if you made the score to be oh say 140 I think thats the baseline for Mensa however people like that tend to be more absorbed in their interests and wouldn't even show up to vote they would be to busy playing mind puzzles and such 😆

Well it doesn't have to be 140 just a 100 or something? Whats the average number? Just take that number and use that one. It would prevent a lot of idiots from voting.

Originally posted by Fishy
Well I wouldn't want to let 18 year olds vote either, but unfortunally there is a age where people become adults, and with that have the right to vote. Far to early, but I see no reason to allow even more idiots to vote... Besides we don't get a lot of rights until we are 18 unless all of those laws are changed as well 16 year olds shouldn't be allowed to vote.

I mean it would be stupid if I could decide who would lead this country but couldn't smoke, drive, drink, go out into town on a saturday night, order pizza, get my own insurance policy, order pizza, sign contracts.

Well you know everything...

Yeah...like ordering Pizza and such....

But still, 18 is jsut so random...

Okay ordering Pizza was a bullshit example, but it just shows that until 18 you can't do a lot of things you can do after you are 18... And unless 16 year olds get the same rights and duty's as adults then they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

and the 18 number is probably based on something. And even if it isn't, I couldn't care less, its still to young because a lot of 18 year olds are idiots and vote for the party that has the cutest guy/girl leading the party.

Originally posted by Fishy
Okay ordering Pizza was a bullshit example, but it just shows that until 18 you can't do a lot of things you can do after you are 18... And unless 16 year olds get the same rights and duty's as adults then they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

and the 18 number is probably based on something. And even if it isn't, I couldn't care less, its still to young because a lot of 18 year olds are idiots and vote for the party that has the cutest guy/girl leading the party.

Well, I basically agree. Just that I wouldn't mind it being 16. Or 35....but I just think 18 is weird....