Originally posted by King KAM
am i the only one who gets wood everytime he pictures this fight in his head?
😂 😆 😂
no..... 😮
lol, anyways
jean should still be able to win against the other two. Isn't she powerful enough to just take control of both of their minds?
I thought she was just one rung below xavier....
Jean quite easily...even if she wasn't a telepath of the highest order, she could throw Betsy around until she's bloodied up the danger room, while sheilding herself from Emma's punches and kicks and then beat the White Queen AGAIN on the astral plane or whatever...easy win for the orginal femme fatale x-telepath...
I would have to say Emma Frost she out ranks them both with telepathy and when in her diamond form Jean's tk can't do that much damage since without phoenix jean. If I'm not mistaken Jean and Emma fought before and Emma won very easily. Psylockye might give Emma trouble but emma would take it. Jean wasn't even strong enough to use cebero while emma and Psylockye were experts
How can Emma not be good enough with having no phoenix she is the second powerful-est psychic. Betsy was in the top five and jean wasn't even given a category because she wasn't a worthy psychic. Jeans tk could hardly pick up anything worth a crap so Emma diamond form will protect her from tk attacks and have you ever seen jean beat Emma in a psychic battle i think not because she was weak her daughter who is a far more power psychic struggles in a fight with Emma. So get real jean loses and psylockye loses because Emma psychic talents surpasses hers
Emma in no way surpasses Jean, Emma is simply unscrupulous in the usage of her psi powers, Jean evicted her from her own body without even trying. In her first appearance Jean could lift Beast and toss him around as well as grab missiles in mid flight and direct them into the sea, she could have handled the weight of Emma then. Psylocke has had so much emphasis on her psi-blade and ninja skills I don't think her telepathy can be properly gauged after the siege perilous. Psylocke with her crimson dawn power would appear to be more formidable on the astral plane, since when her astral form was destroyed, it was reborn in it's shadow form a little more powerful. Jean seems to have the advantage with her telekinesis since Emma and Psylocke are brawlers and could be kept at a distance. Emma also has a flaw in her diamond form that was shattered by a bullet, a telekinetic could probably do the same thing.
Originally posted by LordKaos
Jean evicted her from her own body without even trying.
Untrue...Emma wasn't even in her body when Jean did that...Emma placed herself in a psychic coma before that incident...and then Jean possessed her mindless body...I also seem to remember Emma's psychic backlash effecting Jean in that same issue...
Fact Jean had to find and possess a mindless/hostless body in order to survive the ordeal....Emma on the other hand...only needed to place herself in a psychic coma...
Jean seems to have the advantage with her telekinesis since Emma and Psylocke are brawlers and could be kept at a distance. Emma also has a flaw in her diamond form that was shattered by a bullet, a telekinetic could probably do the same thing.
Ever since the Phoenix put Emma back together...there has been no sign of the flaw...hence the reason why Danger had to resort to blackmail inorder to take out Emma...
BTW Jean is the Phoenix...so when people say no Phoenix they're basically talking about the Jean before she was retconned....meaning it's the Jean without the Phoenix before the Inferno saga...during the Inferno Saga...Jeans DNA was merged with the essence of the Phoenix and Pyor...so any other appearances after that incident would count as Jean being the Phoenix....
When the Force met Jean it duplicated her body....so any feats after that duplication clone are not hers....
Once that Clone died...Jean was found in a cacoon...that's the real Jean...
Up to Inferno where the Life-force of the Phoenix was permanently integrated into Jeans DNA....
So anything after that is Jean/Phoenix..
Anyway if we take current continuity then Jean is and has always been the Phoenix...so basically all her feats are redundant...
Originally posted by ddsmrt
How can Emma not be good enough with having no phoenix she is the second powerful-est psychic. Betsy was in the top five and jean wasn't even given a category because she wasn't a worthy psychic. Jeans tk could hardly pick up anything worth a crap so Emma diamond form will protect her from tk attacks and have you ever seen jean beat Emma in a psychic battle i think not because she was weak her daughter who is a far more power psychic struggles in a fight with Emma. So get real jean loses and psylockye loses because Emma psychic talents surpasses hers
You obviously need to reread your comics because Jean had bested Emma in telepathy on many occasions. Jean is the second most powerful telepath next to Xavier. The only one time that I could think of Emma besting her was when she was in emotional distraught during the pre dark phoenix saga WITH the help of mastermind I might add. Jean's coming terms with the phoenix persona, Cyclop's constant outing and flirting with Dazzler, and after affect of saving the universe and being in the sun, had made her vulnerable to telepathic assault. Her defenses were down at that moment. Even without, the phoenix force, she is a contender to be reckoned with. She has stored Xavier's memories and psych in her own mind, DIVIDED them among globally, purged Apocalypse's essence out of Scott's body, and put the beat down on Emma. Emma is just pure ruthless BUT that doesn't make her more powerful than Jean, considering that after she lost her TK, her TP doubled in power. Jean takes this hands down. Emma may be invulnerable to physical assualt in her diamond form but if a bullet can shatter her, A powerful TK can easily find her pressure point, concentrate enough force to shatter her. Diamond may be hard BUT it can be shattered. Storm has bested Emma when she was in her diamond form. Storm has stated that with enough wind force applied by her, a straw of hay can penetrate Emma's hide easily. Emma's not going to win this one. I would have to say Jean, Psylocke, and Emma in that order.