Illegal Immigrants in the U.S. Protest against Immigration Policies

Originally posted by Trickster
This situation seems a bit out of control.

If it's such a problem thatthe immigrants and their supporters are trying to pass a law that would make them all legal, and the anti-immigration groups are trying to toughen up both immigration laws and border patrols, then why not give that guest-worker status to those illegal immigrants who can pass some basic level entry exams (for example, english speaking and reading/writing)? Instead of granting them sudden citizenship, initiate a program that all the illegal immigrants in the country can apply for which is simply a test. Then toughen up on immigration laws: maybe even pass that law about employing illegals. Some illegals would be deported (those that didn't apply for citizenship or those that failed to meet entry requirements) but the majority would pass, I suspect.

The 'bottom-feeder' jobs would still be held by the same people, but any new illegal immigrants would be deported. Loosening up on immigration applications but coming down harder on law-breakers would encourage people to go through legal channels.

I can see why it would anger people that illegal immigrants seem to break the law for little punishment (and perhaps even the reward of citizenship), but I don't really see the point of those who are arguing for the immigrants. Fair enough, the system may be a bad one, but breaking the law in such extreme numbers isn't the democratic way to go about changing it. Illegal immigrants are exactly that - illegal - and if someone wants the law to change, merely breaking it repeatedly and being proud of such actions is not the best way to go about it. Illegal immigrants have broken the law, and do not deserve a reward for it, no matter what someone's emotional or family connection to them is.

Fairness principle - He who cuts in line should be made to go to the back of the line.

Originally posted by JacopeX
This protest was great. I explained already of why i think this law should be gone. I didnt get to go since I was in EPru but I just think that were all equal people in this free nation of ours. Its not an american dream no longer, its a fuggin nightmare. You see, america is a place were other people from other natuions can come to start a new life and a great one. Would you wanna live in Iraq right now or Libya? didnt think so. I wouldnt eighter since theres terrorism, no good money, wars, things like that are the reasons of coming to America to start a new life. And I disagree with many of you about the whole "immigrants have more than americans." Thats crap to me actually. Im pissed off about how the IRS is goin into stores and takin immigrants away. Its wrong. What is this, the 1800's? Im pretty shocked and dissapointed with America.

So am I.

This isn't the 1800's but the fact remains that since the 1800's (and well before) America has been hit with wave after wave of new immagrants.

Both legal and illegal.

It's a hard thing to say, since we believe in freedoms of speech, religion, liberty, the chance to work, have a home, and raise a family,etc.....

But the whole bloody world CANNOT live in the United States.

Eventually, a line has to be drawn.

It sucks balls that Mexico is a poor country, and I can see damn well why people would want to be here.

But we are already crowded and have people who are poor and homless on the streets.

The millions of dollars spent on illegal immagrants being educated, clothed, sheltered, etc..... would well be spent somewhere else.

Our country will not survive for more than another 50 years if we continue to be everthing to everyone, fighting for small groups of peoples (Somolia, Korea, Vietnam,.... yes,even though I support it, Iraq) who don't pay into the country, allowing others to just flow right in, and not taking care of our enemies/potential threats.

Major changes are needed on many fronts, and unless a better solution is found, I say close the borders for a year or two.

No new U.S. citizens. Period.

Those here are given amnesty, taxed, and put to work.

Originally posted by idowhatiamtold
Has anyone seen "A Day Without a Mexican"?

Yes, and not only do Mexicans do a lot of bottom-feeder jobs; they also make the BEST Chinese food! 😂

Originally posted by sithsaber408

But we are already crowded and have people who are poor and homless on the streets.

No new U.S. citizens. Period.

Crowded? Haha...good one...one of the better I heard all day.

I think the problem is that great parts of your Elite are immigrants...you, indeed, need Immigrants.

Originally posted by JacopeX
This protest was great. I explained already of why i think this law should be gone. I didnt get to go since I was in EPru but I just think that were all equal people in this free nation of ours. Its not an american dream no longer, its a fuggin nightmare. You see, america is a place were other people from other natuions can come to start a new life and a great one. Would you wanna live in Iraq right now or Libya? didnt think so. I wouldnt eighter since theres terrorism, no good money, wars, things like that are the reasons of coming to America to start a new life. And I disagree with many of you about the whole "immigrants have more than americans." Thats crap to me actually. Im pissed off about how the IRS is goin into stores and takin immigrants away. Its wrong. What is this, the 1800's? Im pretty shocked and dissapointed with America.

This country has never really taken kindly to immigrants....I'm cool w/ people comming in here to work and start a new life, but what these ppl are doing is demanding the RIGHT (to which they dont have) to be here and theyre hoping for amnesty so they can have legal status, w/ that I don't agree cuz again theres ppl that wait many years to get here and thats just not fair for them.

Originally posted by XxILuvVegetaxX
This country has never really taken kindly to immigrants....

Actually, it has. It's just that every generation thinks they belong here and the one that comes after should turn around and go back to where ever they came from.

Originally posted by XxILuvVegetaxX
This country has never really taken kindly to immigrants....I'm cool w/ people comming in here to work and start a new life, but what these ppl are doing is demanding the RIGHT (to which they dont have) to be here and theyre hoping for amnesty so they can have legal status, w/ that I don't agree cuz again theres ppl that wait many years to get here and thats just not fair for them.

How is a person from a different country who may have more to offer in skills to this country different and have less accessability to our rights than somebody who doesn't do jack and is a drain to everyone else, but is a citizen?

....because they're not suppose to be here and are not US citizens.......

No offense but that makes no sense whatsoever...IMO.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Actually, it has. It's just that every generation thinks they belong here and the one that comes after should turn around and go back to where ever they came from.

I mean the whole hostility about "they're taking our jobs" and ppl not wanting foreigners in this country, take Angel Island and how the Asians were treated, Mexicans and other hispanics (who some of which were born here) being deported during the Great Depression, how they turned away Jews b4 WW2 (who had the proper documents) and sent them baq (though this was more of a Security thing)... its in that sense I mean that haven't taken immigrants kindly.

i guess he would prefer to have charles manson as a next door neighbor, instead of pedro the landscaper.

Originally posted by meep-meep
No offense but that makes no sense whatsoever...IMO.

how? You're basically saying that illegals have (or should have) the same rights as a US citizen, to which they don't (or shouldnt).

Originally posted by XxILuvVegetaxX
how? You're basically saying that illegals have (or should have) the same rights as a US citizen, to which they don't (or shouldnt).

Is that what I said??

In a sense thats what you said, saying that they should the same accessability as a US citizen, unless you ment a legal immigrant, in which then Im sorry >_< ^_^

ILLEGAL immigrants

Originally posted by crazy
ILLEGAL immigrants

Originally posted by crazy
ILLEGAL immigrants

America is far from crowded. However, Mexican's like to pour into area's that are high already in population density. My closest large city, Monroe, around seven years ago had almost no Mexicans' and was pretty crowded. Now it's twice the size, and the streets rae a lot more packed... and 1/2 is Meixan. You count the people walking on sidewalks and every other will be a mexican.

However, regardless of how people paint it... it is still illegal.

Originally posted by NineCoronas

However, regardless of how people paint it... it is [b]still illegal. [/B]

True...that should be changed.

Originally posted by Bardock42
True...that should be changed.

It's called legal immigration.