If contact with the dead is forbidden, why pray to Jesus?

Started by KingDubya4 pages

I am not Christian, but I was. This is no longer my POV.

Praying to Jesus is basically the same as praying to God, since (not sure about this) they are one and the same. This means that you are not praying to a dead person, you are praying to an avatar of reality's creator. That is why praying to Jesus is not forbidden.
As for people trying to contact the dead, that is just human nature; a human can't help but break rules and struggle against restrictions. Jesus could, because he wasn't necessarily human. was he?

Originally posted by Punker69
. And the fact is because the Bible tells us he's not dead. End of story.
But the Bible has been edited and there were many other writing that weren't included in it.......Now, if you read all the other writings then come up with your view that would be different.

Originally posted by debbiejo
But the Bible has been edited and there were many other writing that weren't included in it.......Now, if you read all the other writings then come up with your view that would be different.

And those writings weren't included because they were "lost".

Originally posted by debbiejo
But the Bible has been edited and there were many other writing that weren't included in it.......Now, if you read all the other writings then come up with your view that would be different.

Like I said, this wasn't a question about the Bibles truth. Just why Christians do a certain thing. If you want to make it into that than by all means, do. But im done replying to this thread.

Um... Catholics pray to saints who are all unequivocally mortals now dead...

Thats wrong. We're supposed to pray to Jesus. Not his saints.

Originally posted by KingDubya
And those writings weren't included because they were "lost".
Not all, they just were not quite so popular.........

And I certainly don't think it hurts to pray to Jesus or saints, because it doesn't really matter, what matters is your heart and your intention and what you are praying for....not begging and stuff.....but goodness to mankind.........man that sounds sappy doesn't it. I myself pray all through the day in my head....always talking and giving thanks and gratitude.......The more I do this, the more good seems to come my way....

Originally posted by debbiejo
What I mean by medieval was that when we don't understand something we automatically blame it on Satan or demons. And scripture never says hell is a place or torture. Hell/Sheol only mean death, nothing more.

Sheol/Hades is the place of the Dead, The Kingdom of Shadows. Gehenna/Infernus is burning Hell -
an incinerator to get rid of the hardened sinners. But the Vulgata is confusing them because of a wrong translation of "Hades". "Hades" is
translated as "Infernus". It should have been translated as "Pluto"/"Regnum Plutonis"/"Regnum Mortium". Because of this wrong translation Vulgata:Rev.20.14 says that Infernus shall be thrown into the firelake burning with brimstone. That firelake IS Hell, but you cannot throw Hell into Hell, so that's why the roman catholics invented Purgatory.
Purgatory is non-existant and superfluous, because Jesus Christ died on the cross (and was resurected ca. 36 hours later) for our sins, and NOTHING MORE IS NEEDED! In reality it is the Kingdom of the Dead and Shadows that is thrown into Hell. We protestants found out that more than 500 years ago, but a lot of people - even in protestant countries -
are still confusing the place of the Dead with Hell.

Do Mary and the Apostles pray for me? Should I ask them to pray for me? What is the problem with asking the dead to pray for me?

Mary and the apostles do not pray for or intercede for people, and they are not our mediators. Jesus is our Intercessor, He prays for us (i.e. us believers), and Jesus is the Mediator between God and humanity. No where in the Bible are we instructed to talk to dead people in prayer. Talking to the dead is called necromancy, and God forbids the practice of necromancy.

Mary is not divine and you should never pray to her. It is egregiously unscriptural to pray to anyone other than God in the Name of Jesus. Mary was simply a vessel to that God chose to bring His Son into the world so that He could redeem humanity from the wages of their sins (i.e. the second death in the Lake of Fire), so that we could be brought back to God and receive eternal life.

http://www.bible.ca/cath-overview-false-teaching.htm (Overview of how Catholic faith contradicts the Bible)

http://www.born-again-christian.info/catholics.htm (Are Catholics Christian?)

http://www.gotquestions.org/prayer-saints-Mary.html (Is prayer to saints / Mary Biblical?)

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Roman%20Catholicism/rcc2-pray.htm (To Whom Do Catholics Pray?)

There's only one way to stop this contact:

Who ya gonna call!??!

Godbustas!

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Do Mary and the Apostles pray for me? Should I ask them to pray for me? What is the problem with asking the dead to pray for me?

Mary and the apostles do not pray for or intercede for people, and they are not our mediators. Jesus is our Intercessor, He prays for us (i.e. us believers), and Jesus is the Mediator between God and humanity. No where in the Bible are we instructed to talk to dead people in prayer. Talking to the dead is called necromancy, and God forbids the practice of necromancy.

Mary is not divine and you should never pray to her. It is egregiously unscriptural to pray to anyone other than God in the Name of Jesus. Mary was simply a vessel to that God chose to bring His Son into the world so that He could redeem humanity from the wages of their sins (i.e. the second death in the Lake of Fire), so that we could be brought back to God and receive eternal life.

Jesus was just a man, and was not divine. This is a common human mistake. We like to make heroes out of people who we admire, and making someone a god is just a higher form of hero. There are those who believe that Buddha was divine, but he was just a man also. To pray to anything outside of your own Buddha hood is just poring your energy out to someone or something that cannot use your power.

Re: If contact with the dead is forbidden, why pray to Jesus?

Originally posted by BlackC@
I fine examply of why I don't believe in christianity.

Try and tell me why praying to jesus is allowed.


Man, you suck as a person.

1. Jesus is alive (he, you know, rose from the grave and all).
2. Jesus is God. The Bible explicitly permits one to pray to God.

Re: Re: If contact with the dead is forbidden, why pray to Jesus?

Originally posted by FeceMan
Man, you suck as a person.

1. Jesus is alive (he, you know, rose from the grave and all).
2. Jesus is God. The Bible explicitly permits one to pray to God.

🙄 Jesus died over 2000 years ago. Please get over it.

Jesus is not a human duh!!!!!!

The holy trinity?! He's part of it so praying to him is praying to the trinity and that's the spirit and fahter aswell as the son!

Re: If contact with the dead is forbidden, why pray to Jesus?

😂

That is actually quite funny.

It isn't forbidden to have contact with the dead.

People pray to dead loved ones all of the time.
People visit graves as well.
Not to mention Sylvia Brown does it all of the time.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Maybe the dead have lots to say today.