I see no reason why Torch would even get close enough to Hulk for him to deliver a thunderclap. Hes much faster than Hulk and has a ton of range on his side. If he gets thunderclapped, his ass deserved it. Like stated before, Bobby is well capable of executing moves while not intact. I doubt Hulk would pick up every bit of ice and hurl it into orbit. All that would be needed is once piece of ice. Iceman would/should be able to gather moisture from the air, reform himself and stop the velocity before entering orbit.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Iceman is at that level and has been so since the mid 90's.
I was always under the impression that that was just his potential and because of his attitude he only scratched the surface of what he was capable of (like when the White Queen took over his body and was able to use his power much more effectively). I mean at his top level all he would have to do is think and everything around him would stop moving instantly. I was unaware he had reached that level.
HULK SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Poor Bobby and Johnny really have NO CHANCE! Regardless of what anyone says, they are both screwed...there is really nothing Iceman or Human Torch can do to stop the Hulk or put him down for long or for good...but Hulk on the other hand.....
First of all, Human Torch is sincerely f**ked...especially if he's tangeling with the savage Hulk...there is not one damn thing Torch could do that's taking down the Hulk. Now, I know what everyone's gonna say..."..but what if he goes nova..?" Well, if you pick up the recent issue of Fantastic Four (Issue #535), the Torch does in fact go nova and it doesn't even bother Hulk...the only hope the Torch has is to fly away, fly far far away and don't look back. Hulk thunderclaps him, snuffs out his flame, and then snaps him like a toothpick. The Hulk can take being frozen solid and survive. Not only does the Hulk get stronger the madder he gets, but his body's resistance becomes more and more powerful and it's almost impossible to hurt him. In Hulk issue #372, Hulk is frozen solid, but is able to break out of it because of his intense rage. Sure Iceman could probably do something extreme, but that will take time. And Hulk's not going to be standing around long enough or be in one place long enough for Iceman to do anything drastic like that. Hulk can move up to 400 mph and he will have his big green hands around Bobby's neck before Iceman can hope to do anything. Hulk either knocks him out or just grabs him and throws him into orbit around the earth...like I said...."HULK SMASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
khan look at me and jrods respect thread. At his top level (that he has reached so far) he froze the freakin stranger. He became a part of "everything". He can simply freeze the molecules in the Hulks body, simple as that. Space is three degrees above absolute zero, but iceman can get it colder than that. If hulk catches him and throws him he can "teleport" through the water molcules back, or just fight him while in water vapor form (meaning that the one trick pony can do NOTHING to him) while iceman flash freezes his ass.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
khan look at me and jrods respect thread. At his top level (that he has reached so far) he froze the freakin stranger. He became a part of "everything". He can simply freeze the molecules in the Hulks body, simple as that. Space is three degrees above absolute zero, but iceman can get it colder than that. If hulk catches him and throws him he can "teleport" through the water molcules back, or just fight him while in water vapor form (meaning that the one trick pony can do NOTHING to him) while iceman flash freezes his ass.
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Damn. Iceman is badass.