Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Excuse me? he never defeated GOD, he did defeat Ogre, but the way I see it, that wasn't really all that hard... Ogre was not a REAL God in any sense of the word. Powerful yes, but even Jinpachi was stronger than Ogre, as was Kazuya.Ogre was far from Omnipotent dude... basically just a very powerful transforming beast.
Even so, Ryu has demonstrated more impressive feats more regularly, your comparison is incomplete based on cutscene information that mostly wasnt even performed by the version of Jin in question...
Ogre WAS God. Like Thor in marvel comix, or Zues in Greece mythology. And he was a God of martial arts.
You call 20 feet monster that could fly, teleport, has incradible strength, has TK and firebreath a transforming beast?
And on what based your opinion that Jinpachi is stronger than him?
Jin beat him and hundreds of cyborgs with him in devil within(that was a canon BTW). You call that not impressive?
Originally posted by shin_remy
indeed.. that's what i said a few pages back but he didn't want to listenBetter you compare them to Dead Or Alive ^_^ IMO
Shin. I don't mind that you think that Ryu wins, but you think that Jin is not even a match for Ryu. And that's just wierd if you look at Jin feats.
There's a big diference in being GOD and A god, you know? Besides even Paul managed to defeat the so called god of fighting. Great fighter isn't he? Getting beat by 2 punks--when compared to Ogre anyway. However Jin did beat True Ogre without any sign of the Devil gene as far as we can tell, so give the boy credit where it's due. It's not like he decides when he transforms or not anyways.
PS - I know Paul didn't fight True Ogre, but he did get the win against normal Ogre.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
There's a big diference in being GOD and A god, you know? Besides even Paul managed to defeat the so called god of fighting. Great fighter isn't he? Getting beat by 2 punks--when compared to Ogre anyway. However Jin did beat True Ogre without any sign of the Devil gene as far as we can tell, so give the boy credit where it's due. It's not like he decides when he transforms or not anyways.PS - I know Paul didn't fight True Ogre, but he did get the win against normal Ogre.
True but Paul is not a punk but one of the greatest fighters in the world. And Jin defeated not only True Ogre, but also his second superior form.
guys , lets look the facts ... Jin is strong , and would be a good fight indeed , it is wrong to say that tekken guys are just as tough as dead or alive guys , but ryu is just too strong for him.
If we consider that ryu and jin are the same speed,strengh ,experience(which i believe ryu is superior in all aspects) ryu would still win because of the fighting style .Jin fights with a "super" karate martial arts , ryu fights with ansatsuken , the strongest martial art that the capcom world has ever seem.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Er...True Ogre is Ogre's second transformation. I wonder. He only fought that version of Ogre and then got shot by grandaddy Hei.
That was in Tekken3.
In tekken five he fought True Ogre again, which then transformed in his another form. He became like 5 times bigger and stronger.
Originally posted by Hoshi
guys , lets look the facts ... Jin is strong , and would be a good fight indeed , it is wrong to say that tekken guys are just as tough as dead or alive guys , but ryu is just too strong for him.
If we consider that ryu and jin are the same speed,strengh ,experience(which i believe ryu is superior in all aspects) ryu would still win because of the fighting style .Jin fights with a "super" karate martial arts , ryu fights with ansatsuken , the strongest martial art that the capcom world has ever seem.
It all depends not of the martial art but of the fighter. It doesn't matter what fighting style you have if your opponent is just stronger or better fighter.
Jin was studying Mishima karate for all his life. Then he like in one year lurned art of traditional karate and defeated Kazuya, Heihachi and Ogre with it.
Originally posted by samishe
Ogre WAS God. Like Thor in marvel comix, or Zues in Greece mythology. And he was a God of martial arts.You call 20 feet monster that could fly, teleport, has incradible strength, has TK and firebreath a transforming beast?
And on what based your opinion that Jinpachi is stronger than him?
Jin beat him and hundreds of cyborgs with him in devil within(that was a canon BTW). You call that not impressive?
Since when was Devil Within considered Canon?
It's a side game, not part of the official tekken storyline... 🙄
[QUOTE=6348160]Originally posted by shin_remy
[B]and that ogre thing
ryu has fought so many battles and he fought Akuma and stayed alive.
And akuma is stronger then the Ogre and now with the training of Oro is REALLY don't see Ryu lose!
ryu did survive and jin beat him and how do you know that akuma is stroger
HOW!!
that is obvious isn't it!!
about his feats, speed, strenght and attacks that kill you once
the punshes from akuma destroyed an comet that could destroy a third size of the world.. and he did it if it was NOTHING AT ALL!!!!
so one of those punshes and Ogre is FINISHED
and he doesn't have to use his one hit killer attack on him.. it is not necesary