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Originally posted by Smasandian
It's true though. Why do we see the same teams in the AL East? They can afford the massive contracts.
Well, the Rays kind of tarnish that argument, but I know what you're saying: the Red Sox and the Yankees. But the owners are willing to put money into it, even if it hurts their bottom line. The Yankee organization hasn't been making money since like 2000, but yet, they still put money into the team. Why? Because its better for them to. The YES Network is what makes the Yankees money, not the actual team.

Every league has trade deadlines where a team trades their veterans for young players. But those guys are 30-35 years old.

Now, teams are traded great players who are in their mid 20's for even younger players. There is something wrong with that.

There is something wrong with that and its called owners not being willing to spend money. Honestly. The Twins have a billionaire for an owner, but yet he's only willing to offer Joe Mauer a six year, 100 million extension when the guy makes the team much more money than that. If an owner can't afford to put a product out there that will make then contenders, then they need to sell a portion of their team and get some capital so they can.

More teams can pay? That's complete bullshit. A team like the Jays pay 80-100 million dollars a season and they can't even get to second place. They could pay more but they'll be out of business.
They can't get to second place because they were dealt the short end of the stick in being in the same division as the Sox and the Yankees. To be fair, though, their farm system hasn't produced top-level talent: some good players, some solid players, but not star level talent that they need. They've been in a dead zone the last few years: not good enough to be a contender but not bad enough to get good picks, which is unfortunate. If they had that star talent, and they pay 85 million like they usually do, they'd have better seasons, which would create more revenue, which would....make them able to pay more. It's a circle, man, you put more money into it, you'll get more out. IF, and there is always a stipulation on everything, the team still can't afford it and revenue does not go up, then that team has to move. That market obviously can't sustain them; not saying Toronto is like that, but every time I see a Blue Jays game at Rogers, the place is half empty.

What the league should do and it will probably happen in the next 20 years is a minimum salary cap to 50-60 million dollars and salary cap to 100-120 million dollars.
Look at the NFL and NHL. Both never had salary caps. Now they do. It can happen in baseball also.

The reason why MLB is different than the NFL is because of the length of player's careers: players can literally play for 15 seasons at optimum levels; some pitchers can do it even longer. If they did have a hard salary cap, teams would be letting players go left and right. If you mean a soft salary cap, it could work, but the Union would never allow it and I don't think the owners will either because they make more money the way they do things now.

Their should be a league minimum, though, and a sliding scale of luxury tax threshold. if you go past 100 million, you pay 20 million, 150 million, 40 million, 200, 60 million, etc. You'd be surprised how many teams would have to pay that 20 million; last time I checked, it was like 9 teams.

*I left the NHL out because we have to wait a few more seasons to see if this new cap works as well as the NFL one.

I still think a salary cap should be in place. Doesn't have to be small but large enough to stop the top 6 spending teams in paying salaries from going complete overboard. Creates a better product in the end.

Only 14 teams can get on average, 30,000 people a game and 10 of those teams can only barely get 50 percent of their of stadium per game.
Ten teams can get over 85 percent of their total attendance. The rest fall in the 50 to 65 percent range. Those are not good numbers I'm afraid. The current system they have in baseball is not working.

If you think Toronto can't support the team (which they can), then 9 other teams can't either.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I still think a salary cap should be in place. Doesn't have to be small but large enough to stop the top 6 spending teams in paying salaries from going complete overboard. Creates a better product in the end.

Only 14 teams can get on average, 30,000 people a game and 10 of those teams can only barely get 50 percent of their of stadium per game.
Ten teams can get over 85 percent of their total attendance. The rest fall in the 50 to 65 percent range. Those are not good numbers I'm afraid. The current system they have in baseball is not working.

If you think Toronto can't support the team (which they can), then 9 other teams can't either.

I never said Toronto couldn't; I was just making a comment on what I see. But the good thing about baseball is that there are so many games that as long as teams average above 50 percent, they're still making revenue. With that being said, Oakland needs to gtfo. Last time I checked, they were only averaging like 40 percent, which is completely absurd. I know they have a huge stadium, but come on.

Those top 6 teams, however, also contribute a huge percentage of revenue sharing, so if you just take a larger percentage from their gross revenue and divide amongst the teams, it'll act like a cap, without actually having a cap.

True.

In the end, as a baseball fan, I like to see some teams don't make the playoffs that much instead of the typical guys. If that's with a cap, or just an extra few playoff teams, I'm all for it.

i am so glad the dodgers won...now if they can just take two more games in this possible five game series

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i am so glad the dodgers won...now if they can just take two more games in this possible five game series

Then they will win? Just guessing what the end of your sentence was supposed to be, and I imagine you telling us it takes 3 wins in a 5 game series to take it would make sense.

Crossing my fingers for a Dodgers/Yankees World Series.

Originally posted by Lord Evolution
Crossing my fingers for a Dodgers/Yankees World Series.

that would be a dream world series, but i'm not sure if it will happen

Cliff Lee pinch running is awesome. If you can't run and bunt as a pitcher, get off of my time, Ching-Ming Wang.

I was at the Phils game today. Damn.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Cliff Lee pinch running is awesome. If you can't run and bunt as a pitcher, get off of my time, Ching-Ming Wang.

Give him bonus points for coming over from the AL also and being able to do this.

Matt Holliday... wow epic failure man.

great game tonight by the dodgers....

just win one more game of the next three and then they advance to the next round

holliday got hit in the nuts.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i am so glad the dodgers won...now if they can just take two more games in this possible five game series

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
great game tonight by the dodgers....

just win one more game of the next three and then they advance to the next round

In all seriousness have you ever had your head checked out?

In other news when I am hungry I eat food.

Red Sox's offense isn't good enough to do any damage in the playoffs, they're done. Josh Beckett will have to throw a shut out just to give them a chance.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Red Sox's offense isn't good enough to do any damage in the playoffs, they're done. Josh Beckett will have to throw a shut out just to give them a chance.

i agree with you about the red sox

Originally posted by forumcrew
In all seriousness have you ever had your head checked out?

In other news when I am hungry I eat food.

Please do not make pointless posts of this nature again.

Teixeira and A-Rod. 💃 💃 💃 💃

I hate Joe Nathan.

Wow...I knew the Cardinals would lose the series, but they were wrecked. Truely destroyed.