Originally posted by Philosophía
Nobody is as strong as him and Hulk is the only one with the potential to be so. Thor/Hercules are closer to Wonder Woman than him. Gladiator doesn't have the feats, and certainly not anywhere near the relative showings against other Marvel top-heralds to say he's at his level.
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Originally posted by Philosophía
Nobody is as strong as him and Hulk is the only one with the potential to be so. Thor/Hercules are closer to Wonder Woman than him. Gladiator doesn't have the feats, and certainly not anywhere near the relative showings against other Marvel top-heralds to say he's at his level.
Not even Mangog or Kurse?
Originally posted by Starscream MSee I like demonstrative stuff. What is this "he has the potential to be" stuff? On the regular, he's not, and I've never seen a Hulk feat of strength that made me think "damn, Supes can't do that". And I couldn't care less about either.
hulk can be stronger than superman though
Edit: The Onslaught feat may be the exception. I can't see a non amped Supes replicating that.
Something needs to be emphasized here: the original poster asked about strength, not about hitting hard. Flash can hit pretty darn hard, but his strength is negligible. I would actually agree that Superman can hit harder than Thor, Herc, Hulk, and Glads -- but that's not what this thread is about.
Moreover, most of the people who have commented have been talking about whether or not these individuals are comparable, not whether one is a hair stronger than the other. The assertion that superman is simply in a different weight class than the marvel heralds is not supported by the comics at all.
Originally posted by SimbonI agree. I just want to see Philo attempt to make his case.
Something needs to be emphasized here: the original poster asked about strength, not about hitting hard. Flash can hit pretty darn hard, but his strength is negligible. I would actually agree that Superman can hit harder than Thor, Herc, Hulk, and Glads -- but that's not what this thread is about.
Moreover, most of the people who have commented have been talking about whether or not these individuals are comparable, not whether one is a hair stronger than the other. The assertion that superman is simply in a different weight class than the marvel heralds is not supported by the comics at all.
Hulk and gladiators planet destroying feats place them as being stronger than superman. For all of supermans so-called high end feats, he has failed to even come close to being able to match hulks and gladiators. I would like to see comparable feats from superman who has been around longer than all these characters combined, yet cannot match the few feats that they have. And i know for a fact that he has atleast tried to destroy a shadow moon and we all know what happened.
Originally posted by Simbon
Something needs to be emphasized here: the original poster asked about strength, not about hitting hard. Flash can hit pretty darn hard, but his strength is negligible. I would actually agree that Superman can hit harder than Thor, Herc, Hulk, and Glads -- but that's not what this thread is about.
Moreover, most of the people who have commented have been talking about whether or not these individuals are comparable, not whether one is a hair stronger than the other. The assertion that superman is simply in a different weight class than the marvel heralds is not supported by the comics at all.
It depends on the heralds, tbh.
Originally posted by Simbon
No, Phil is right; remember that the marvel characters have to be judged by their AVERAGES -- their low feats have to be taken into account. Contrast this with superman (whose low feats are all PIS, and therefore not taken into account), and it is clear who is teh strongest wun der iz.
i know you're being sarcastic, but the irony amuses me.
Re: Are marvel heralds as strong/stronger than superman
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
based on feats .Thor-destroy a planet by hitting it with mljonir
Herculese-bench pressed the weigth of the earth
Gladiator-destroyed a planet much bigger than earth, destroy a star etc
Hulk-physically overpowered a planet from exploding, destroying a planet twice the size of earth with a punch, and can basically out muscle everyone in this thread.
They're in the same general league. If you had to pick one guy to win an arm wrestling contest, you'd probably go with Supes. I'd say a big part of that is how his strength actually works, this guy literally gets stronger with age, as he's exposed to more and more solar energy.
Originally posted by iceman24567I agree with this...
On average Thor, Superman, Hulk, Herc and Gladiator are peers when push comes to shove Superman and Thor show they can will themselves stronger and Hulk can amp to unknown levels. Tend to think Superman is near the top strengthwise.
With two modifications. Superman is better on Average... Thor? lol not strength wise bro.
Superman is the strongest the only person who comes close and can surpass him in strength might be Hulk.
Thor-destroy a planet by hitting it with mljonir
Herculese-bench pressed the weigth of the earth
Gladiator-destroyed a planet much bigger than earth, destroy a star etc
Hulk-physically overpowered a planet from exploding, destroying a planet twice the size of earth with a punch, and can basically out muscle everyone in this thread....... Could somebody, anybody show me current superman doing any of these things in any comic book. Also show me a scan of superman and thor willing themselves stronger.