Originally posted by kgkgWell Thors strength feats are solid and his ability to gain strength via will or anger is well know its just my opinion that hes Superman level and your right Superman is the cream of the crop on average
I agree with this...With two modifications. Superman is better on Average... Thor? lol not strength wise bro.
Superman is the strongest the only person who comes close and can surpass him in strength might be Hulk.
Originally posted by kgkg
I agree with this...With two modifications. Superman is better on Average... Thor? lol not strength wise bro.
Superman is the strongest the only person who comes close and can surpass him in strength might be Hulk.
This is the type of shit I have problems with.
The only person who comes close to Clark in strength is Hulk? Stupidity. Even using JLA/Avengers as a basis, it's quite clear that Thor is pretty damn close to Clark in regards to physical capabilities.
Thor and Hulk are the only ones who can become stronger than Superman without some sort of outside amp.
On average, Thor is at best as strong as Clark and might have an edge of the mystical origin is played up; Clark at best will be physically stronger but not by much.
On average, Hulk is at best physically above Superman. Clark at best is Hulk's physical equal. At least a Savage Hulk and higher.
All of the ones listed here are on the same level. That doesn't mean they are all equals.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's what I said.Stronger than Superman? Nah, he isn't unless we start including shit like Warrior Madness.
So would you agree that the fight between Thor and Superman was accurate in the JLA vs the Avengers.
I have always though even though that its not cannon that, that fight is how it would really go down between the two.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus The only person who comes close to Clark in strength is Hulk? Stupidity. Even using JLA/Avengers as a basis, it's quite clear that Thor is pretty damn close to Clark in regards to physical capabilities.
Thor and Hulk are the only ones who can become stronger than Superman without some sort of outside amp.Hulk is to hard to gauge with his constant change of portrayal in terms of strength. But Hulk can do any feat because well that's what he does. On average he is not as strong as Superman.
On average, Thor is at best as strong as Clark and might have an edge of the mystical origin is played up; Clark at best will be physically stronger but not by much.Based on nothing? The only thing that Thor has over Superman is power output even than it's very close.
On average, Hulk is at best physically above Superman. Clark at best is Hulk's physical equal. At least a Savage Hulk and higher.Nope... Superman doesn't have problem with meta's and street level characters.
So that's your answer? Superman doesn't have thors hammer?... I have seen claims on here that he hits harder than thor with his hammer... Ok then, what about the other 3? Show me superman doing those feats. I am also waiting for scans of him willing himself stronger. I have seen him bloodlusted against WW and fighting for his life against doomsday, why didn't he ( will ) himself stronger? I have seen him sundipp to get stronger by flying close to or into the sun to accomplish a task, why didn't he ( will ) himself stronger? I have seen him trying with help to move a planet or moon, why didn't he ( will ) himself stronger? he was trying to save lives and was failing in his task. Superman is slightly stronger than WW.. same as CM, weaker than black adam.. And none of them can match the feats in this thread.. You would have to go to his pre-crisis era to match those feats, and current superman is no-where close to that era, and not one of these characters used flight assist to accomplish their feats. except hulks and it trumps anything superman has ever done.
Originally posted by kgkg
Did you read another version of JLA/Avengers ?
Dials goes to 11?
So did you drop the retarded stance that the Hulk is the only one close to Clark in strength or is that still your stance?
I read JLA/Avengers. Yes, Busiek made it clear Clark is stronger; at least in his opinion. Thor was still obviously pretty close to him physically.
That wasn't a battle between beings where there was some large gap. This is some Philo level Superfaggotry. Superman was completely exhausted, and admitted he barely -his emphasis I believe- won.
Originally posted by kgkg
Hulk is to hard to gauge with his constant change of portrayal in terms of strength. But Hulk can do any feat because well that's what he does. On average he is not as strong as Superman.
Well sure, on average his below Superman. Even Savage Hulk rarely runs into high end beings like Thor.
Originally posted by kgkg
Based on nothing? The only thing that Thor has over Superman is power output even than it's very close.
😂
Originally posted by kgkg
Nope... Superman doesn't have problem with meta's and street level characters.
baka
If you want to low ball, by all means we can go at it, but I guarantee you that Superman will not come out looking good either.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus I read JLA/Avengers. Yes, Busiek made it clear Clark is stronger; at least in his opinion. Thor was still obviously pretty close to him physically.What are you basing this on? battle lasted a few page?? That's what you call pretty close? Superman garbing Mjolnir and punching him out 😂 I love how you can even make a terrible lost for Thor into it was pretty close. 🙂.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus Well sure, on average his below Superman. Even Savage Hulk rarely runs into high end beings like Thor.Glad you agree.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus If you want to low ball, by all means we can go at it, but I guarantee you that Superman will not come out looking good either.You actually want to do this? Fine start with all the low end Superman showing? Go. I will guarantee you Thor has a lot more of these especially in the strength department 🙂
Originally posted by Silent MasterWhere are you getting the idea that Superman had hard time standing up or to talk?
If it wasn't a close fight, explain why Superman could barely stand or talk afterwards and was unable to even offer token resistance when jumped by the other Avengers.
He couldn't depend because they bump rushed him as a group.
THOR - GOD OF THUNDER
Thor landed one good punch tried to rush superman got his hammer block and K.O'ed by Superman.... Not a good showing no matter how fans want to twist it.
Originally posted by kgkg
What are you basing this on? battle lasted a few page?? That's what you call pretty close? Superman garbing Mjolnir and punching him out 😂
You think because the battle was only a few pages, that it wasn't close? Are you a f*cking idiot?
Superman was exhausted and could barely speak. He said Thor might be the single toughest opponent he had ever fought and admitted he barely beat Thor.
I reiterate: Are you a f*cking idiot?
This was a crossover and the Superman/Thor rivalry easily got the most play.
Originally posted by kgkg
I love how you can even make a terrible lost for Thor into it was pretty close. 🙂.
I retract my previous question. You are a f*cking idiot.
Originally posted by kgkg
You actually want to do this? Fine start with all the low end Superman showing? Go. I will guarantee you Thor has a lot more of these especially in the strength department 🙂
Why would I want to do it? I don't want to make Clark look bad for no reason and debate against the showings I post for the next few weeks.
You simply have a very shitty argument and pointed out Thor having trouble with streets/metas which is quite honestly such a stupid line of reasoning, it's laughable.
Lol.
Originally posted by DIAMONDBACK-777
Omega, it was stated as a planet that held an entire race once. Its far far far bigger than lets say.... a shadow moon OK? That much we do know.
A planet could be the size of Pluto and theoretically hold an entire race.
I recall an instance where Superman was just flying through planetoids and wrecking them casually.
Originally posted by kgkg
Where are you getting the idea that Superman had hard time standing up or to talk?He couldn't depend because they bump rushed him as a group.
Thor landed one good punch tried to rush superman got his hammer block and K.O'ed by Superman.... Not a good showing no matter how fans want to twist it.
