Originally posted by Utrigita
Isn't we comparing what amount of effect each respective blast had, or are we discussing the fight as a whole?So let me get this straight, He fought Tenebrous, Aegis, Inbetweener, Agamotto, Thanos w/IG, The Galactus Engine, The Four Celestials, Odin, Zeus, FP Tyrant, Sphinx, High Evolutionary, Ego, The Other and Scrier, and didn't in one of these cases back down because a lack of energy, and I was under the impression that he began to feast on Mephistos realm more to break the stalemate (as suggested by Surfer in order to safe the universe), but still does one incident with Mephisto trumph the rest? Not imo, but to each his own.
I agree that feeding is his nature, that much is obvious, but to say that his energy consumption is a huge factor in a fight I simply can't agree with, based on how it have been portrayed in the fights itself. Sure Galactus burns energy but far from in a alarming rate, which is also why he can go for a month with the energy required from each planet.
Galactus is ready to feed the minute after he eats, so to believe that he doesn't begin to ebb quicker in a battle is PIS. How many times have you read him say that the hunger is again upon him?
The writers won't have Galactus actually fall out in mid battle because he would no longer be regarded in the same light as he is. It's simply something that the writers omit, but in a forum setting on who would really win based on powers and in Galactus' case a curse. He would have a harder time defeating very powerful characters after a certain period of time or depletion of power, when those characters do not have to fight just him but their depletion as well. This has to be factored into the equation, or we won't get a clear picture of how things would go.
If Galactus can not one shot Rune King Thor or put him down within a certain amount of time, his chances of doing so would dwindle the longer they did fight. We know from his battle with Odin that he's not putting RK Thor down at average levels. You may need to accept the possibility (which is large) that RK Thor would be able to defeat Galactus at average levels. I'm not saying that he would at his much higher cosmic levels, but the Galactus that fought Odin should not win against RK Thor.
Yes I know what has been written, but at times writers have to ignore certain fine details in order to complete the plot. This is a forum match, so things like his slow leak have to be factored in.
Originally posted by Stoic
Galactus is ready to feed the minute after he eats, so to believe that he doesn't begin to ebb quicker in a battle is PIS. How many times have you read him say that the hunger is again upon him?The writers won't have Galactus actually fall out in mid battle because he would no longer be regarded in the same light as he is. It's simply something that the writers omit, but in a forum setting on who would really win based on powers and in Galactus' case a curse. He would have a harder time defeating very powerful characters after a certain period of time or depletion of power, when those characters do not have to fight just him but their depletion as well. This has to be factored into the equation, or we won't get a clear picture of how things would go.
If Galactus can not one shot Rune King Thor or put him down within a certain amount of time, his chances of doing so would dwindle the longer they did fight. We know from his battle with Odin that he's not putting RK Thor down at average levels. You may need to accept the possibility (which is large) that RK Thor would be able to defeat Galactus at average levels. I'm not saying that he would at his much higher cosmic levels, but the Galactus that fought Odin should not win against RK Thor.
Yes I know what has been written, but at times writers have to ignore certain fine details in order to complete the plot. This is a forum match, so things like his slow leak have to be factored in.
How many times had you read Galactus say that directly after a battle, please enlighten me. As far as I recall he didn't say so after his confrontations with, Tenebrous/Aegis, Galactus Engine, Zeus, Odin, Scrier and the Other, Ego, Agamotto, hell not even after during the Scapel on Eternity did he say the great hunger is upon me. Sure Galactus is always read to absorb more planets, but that doesn't equal that we should just assume that when he fights his energy burns out like gasoline.
And how exactly will you factor something into a fight that haven't been shown? Will you just assume and speculate at what might possibly happen to Galactus powerlevel in this particular fight, even though there is nothing solid to back it up?
True, the Galactus that fought Odin would have hard time with RKT, and indeed very possibly lose, however there is atleast three recent incarnations of Galactus in other comics that point towards the exact opposite scenario, where RKT would be happy if he survived the first five minutes, which is also why I have made it a habit (until atleast Galactus becomes a bit more "in line"😉 to take each Galactus and use the seperately because their appearances varies to a enormous degree. Cancerwars, Odin, Fantastic four and Thor Annual, showed a Galactus that was all over the place in terms of powerlevel, atleast imo.
I have no problem to factor in his leak, the moment I have a idea from the comics to what extend the fighting is depleting his energy reserves, until then it's just speculation imo what effect the energy consumption will have on his fighting capacity. Also Odin burned out his Odinpower fighting Galactus, and iirc RKT also draws power from the Odin Force, so he is also losing energy over time, or is RKT just running on the pure rune magic? I can't recall.
Originally posted by Utrigita
How many times had you read Galactus say that directly after a battle, please enlighten me. As far as I recall he didn't say so after his confrontations with, Tenebrous/Aegis, Galactus Engine, Zeus, Odin, Scrier and the Other, Ego, Agamotto, hell not even after during the Scapel on Eternity did he say the great hunger is upon me. Sure Galactus is always read to absorb more planets, but that doesn't equal that we should just assume that when he fights his energy burns out like gasoline.And how exactly will you factor something into a fight that haven't been shown? Will you just assume and speculate at what might possibly happen to Galactus powerlevel in this particular fight, even though there is nothing solid to back it up?
True, the Galactus that fought Odin would have hard time with RKT, and indeed very possibly lose, however there is atleast three recent incarnations of Galactus in other comics that point towards the exact opposite scenario, where RKT would be happy if he survived the first five minutes, which is also why I have made it a habit (until atleast Galactus becomes a bit more "in line"😉 to take each Galactus and use the seperately because their appearances varies to a enormous degree. Cancerwars, Odin, Fantastic four and Thor Annual, showed a Galactus that was all over the place in terms of powerlevel, atleast imo.
I have no problem to factor in his leak, the moment I have a idea from the comics to what extend the fighting is depleting his energy reserves, until then it's just speculation imo what effect the energy consumption will have on his fighting capacity. Also Odin burned out his Odinpower fighting Galactus, and iirc RKT also draws power from the Odin Force, so he is also losing energy over time, or is RKT just running on the pure rune magic? I can't recall.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How about the Herald my rage blast? Wasn't he pretty weakened then?
Originally posted by Slaanesh
he had those capsule of power cosmic that Annihilus collected floating around him..i'm pretty sure he used that..
He gets free, sucks the PC from the canisters that Annihilus had it stored in, then unleashes that "Herald My Rage" blast, then is starving. As impressive as that blast sounds keep in mind Annihilus with the Q-bands survived it as well as Nova Prime AND he shielded others that were present.
Originally posted by zopzop
Exactly!He gets free, sucks the PC from the canisters that Annihilus had it stored in, then unleashes that "Herald My Rage" blast, then is starving. As impressive as that blast sounds keep in mind Annihilus with the Q-bands survived it as well as Nova Prime AND he shielded others that were present.
I believe they survive the tell end of it
Originally posted by zopzop
Exactly!He gets free, sucks the PC from the canisters that Annihilus had it stored in, then unleashes that "Herald My Rage" blast, then is starving. As impressive as that blast sounds keep in mind Annihilus with the Q-bands survived it as well as Nova Prime AND he shielded others that were present.
Heck yeah, it was impressive. It was an omni-directional blast over an untold volume of space. If you focus all that energy in a tighter blast then I doubt many beings aside from abstracts will survive.
Originally posted by Utrigita
True, but was there any mentioning or hint of Galactus losing power at a alarming rate in these confrontations? Not as I recall.Which is my point, Galactus loses energy sure, no doubt about it, but have that energy consumption been shown as having a impact on Galactus abilities to fight prolonged battles against equal or superior foes? Not imo. Sure he feeds before certain battles, but in just as many cases he doesn't. Ultimately the amount of energy that Galactus burns out in the fighting isn't hinted at. Which is why I think that trying to impose such idea on Galactus fighting is speculative at best, when we have no proof or idea of just how much energy Galactus actually loses in a confrontation.
I stand corrected there is the Phoenix situation where Galactus loses energy.
