Yoda and Mace run the gauntlet

Started by darthsith198 pages

Originally posted by tdtd
Nihilus doesn't count bro, he's a wound in the force that was meant to be killed by the Exile..

Nihilus does count, Di'kut, just cause he's a wound in the Force doesn't mean he isn't stronger than DE Sidious and Marka Ragnos or that he doesn't pwn all.

Except that without his force drain power (Which may or may not be blockable by someone like Ragnos who can absorb entire planets himself with his sceptre) we have no idea if he sucks in combat or not. Moot observation.

Originally posted by tdtd
I've already proven your argument to be illogical.. Your argument only works if they were in an open field with a great distance between the two, anything else will involve Sidious being either hacked to pieces or the simple attempts to hack him will make it considerably difficult for Sidious to create a force storm.. Don't be angry because my argument is logical and yours isn't even an argument, it's a defense mechanism for being wrong, and being pwnd. How many other people would you like to ridicule you before you realize you are wrong.. Btw, I noticed you throw out personal attacks when you realize you're a lost cause, not to mention they are logical fallacies.

*sigh again*

You havent proved anything, you continue to evade my points and pretend your good at debating.

Sidious can defend while he summons his storm, force pushes etc... your argument that a superior opponent can be defeated within the 5 seconds it takes to summon a force storm is unfounded.

Again, you evade addressing Sidious' wormhole technique.

Again, you evade addressing why Mace and Yoda should have a clue about what to expect from Sidious.

And my insults to you are in response to you insulting me, Im always respectful to those who are respectful in return.

@ Deception

I believe you said this:

"I don't see them making past DE Sidious though."

Ill get around to you after Im done with tdtd if you like, but in the meantime dont be a hypocrite.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Except that without his force drain power (Which may or may not be blockable by someone like Ragnos who can absorb entire planets himself with his sceptre) we have no idea if he sucks in combat or not. Moot observation.

Whatever, Nihilus still counts.

DarthSith, he doesn't count lol, and if he did you'd give a good argument for Janus instead of saying what you said. Your opinion isn't canon..

GV, lets try this again since I feel bad for you already..Sidious CANNOT defend AND create a force storm at the same time, saying otherwise is ludicrous fanboyism. Try again...Why don't you try reading Deception's post, since he clears up your questions. Your logic(If you can even call it that) works only if they were in an open fieldn and at a great distance, meaning Sidious has time to create a force storm AND control it.. Your insults are inaccurate, me telling you that I'm providing accurate and logical evidence AND an argument, is accurate.. Try again

Originally posted by tdtd
DarthSith, he doesn't count lol, and if he did you'd give a good argument for Janus instead of saying what you said. Your opinion isn't canon..

GV, lets try this again since I feel bad for you already..Sidious CANNOT defend AND create a force storm at the same time, saying otherwise is ludicrous fanboyism. Try again...Why don't you try reading Deception's post, since he clears up your questions. Your logic(If you can even call it that) works only if they were in an open fieldn and at a great distance, meaning Sidious has time to create a force storm AND control it.. Your insults are inaccurate, me telling you that I'm providing accurate and logical evidence AND an argument, is accurate.. Try again

Okay..

Does anyone here besides Deception think this guy is winning??

I find his arguments weak and unfounded, if anyone thinks otherwise then Ill just give up now because obviously I am oblivious to the true genious of his posts.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Okay..

Does anyone here besides Deception think this guy is winning??

I find his arguments weak and unfounded, if anyone thinks otherwise then Ill just give up now because obviously I am oblivious to the true genious of his posts.

Nope... its the general agreement of these forums that tdtd is a troll who amuses himself on these forums and... I couldn't give a damn.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Whatever, Nihilus still counts.

No, he doesn't.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Okay..

Does anyone here besides Deception think this guy is winning??

I find his arguments weak and unfounded, if anyone thinks otherwise then Ill just give up now because obviously I am oblivious to the true genious of his posts.

Appeal to the majority is a logical fallacy, even if the majority is against you. Rayvann just trolls around agreeing with everybody so his opinion is irrelevant..

And GV, i've provided evidence and a logical arguments for once, just because you don't want to hear it doesn't mean I haven't.

DarthSith, he doesn't count lol, and if he did you'd give a good argument for Janus instead of saying what you said. Your opinion isn't canon..

Omg, Nihilus doesn't count since he's a void in the Force! Neither does Anakin cause he's teh Chosen One or Mace cause he's a pimp! Bane doesn't count since he has Orbalisk armor and Revan doesn't count cause he's only in a video game! 😆

Originally posted by darthsith19
Omg, Nihilus doesn't count since he's a void in the Force! Neither does Anakin cause he's teh Chosen One or Mace cause he's a pimp! Bane doesn't count since he has Orbalisk armor and Revan doesn't count cause he's only in a video game! 😆

Uh no, he doesn't count because he was created by the Exile as a result of his severe clinical depresion, and can only be destroyed by the exile. I don't know what point you were trying to make by adding irrelevant examples but Nihilus isn't someone you can use in a star wars debate, because he just consumes everything.

Originally posted by tdtd
Appeal to the majority is a logical fallacy, even if the majority is against you. Rayvann just trolls around agreeing with everybody so his opinion is irrelevant

If he agrees with *everyone* then why doesnt he agree with you?

Appeal to the majority, a logical fallacy?... 😐

Originally posted by darthsith19
Omg, Nihilus doesn't count since he's a void in the Force! Neither does Anakin cause he's teh Chosen One or Mace cause he's a pimp! Bane doesn't count since he has Orbalisk armor and Revan doesn't count cause he's only in a video game! 😆

Apparently you're uh... what's the word I'm looking for?

Ah, obtuse.

Nihilus without his force drain is like trying to describe Yoda without him being a jedi- you can't do it. So how can you conclude that Nihilus outstrips everyone else?

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
If he agrees with *everyone* then why doesnt he agree with you?

Appeal to the majority, a logical fallacy?... 😐

Yes, appeal to the majority is a logical fallacy. I don't care what an insignificant twit says about me, his first post in the thread is a personal attack and an appeal to the majority thereby making him a troll. You asking if anyone thinks I'm right is an appeal to the majority which is a logical fallacy, even if Deception agrees with me. We both have made valid points that you refuse to listen to, instead spewing out garbage that makes no sense.

Originally posted by tdtd
Yes, appeal to the majority is a logical fallacy. I don't care what an insignificant twit says about me, his first post in the thread is a personal attack and an appeal to the majority thereby making him a troll. You asking if anyone thinks I'm right is an appeal to the majority which is a logical fallacy, even if Deception agrees with me. We both have made valid points that you refuse to listen to, instead spewing out garbage that makes no sense.

Appealing to the majority generally reveals a more objective view on who is infact winning a debate.

Correction: *I* have made valid points...Im afraid you are the one that makes no sense here.

Go home, troll.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Appealing to the majority generally reveals a more objective view on who is infact winning a debate.

Correction: *I* have made valid points...Im afraid you are the one that makes no sense here.

Go home, troll.

I'm going to do something IKC does with me and point out your logical fallacies...

Argumentum ad hominem
Appeal to Ridicule
I'd say using denial is also a logical fallacy..

So in short, you have no argument, nobody has agreed with you, people have backed me up and added more to my argument, and you're just angry and in denial, and apparently have no concept of the term "troll". Come back when you're ready.

Originally posted by tdtd
Uh no, he doesn't count because he was created by the Exile as a result of his severe clinical depresion, and can only be destroyed by the exile. I don't know what point you were trying to make by adding irrelevant examples but Nihilus isn't someone you can use in a star wars debate, because he just consumes everything.

Exactly, he consumes everything. How he was created doesn't matter, how he dies doesn't matter. Fact is he is a Sith, he uses a lightsaber and the Force, he counts.

No, he doesn't lol..His soul existence is based on the Exile. If the exile doesn't exist, neither does Nihilus, so he's not someone who should be involved in debates, because there's nothing to debate with him, nothing is known about his saber abilities, he just "eats" things.

GV, i never said he wouldn't win, but im arguing his not going to use a force storm and wtfpwn them, it'll be hard and considering Yoda and Mace will be tired, i can see DE Sidious taking them down in this gauntlet.

Darthsith you are persisent in believing so, however to count someone like Nihilus is like to count the Planet Zekot, omg it uses the force, it counts!! No he doesn't, his a fluke in the force. Just as its not feasible to classify a planet as a force user, even though it uses the force.

Including Nihilus in a thread is pointless, the answer is there with no debate, unless we get new information that the Ancient Sith are immune to it, thus we do not include him for that very fact it's pointless.

He wasn't including him in a debate though. He was including him in his list of who is the most powerful.