Indeed, but in terms of raw power, Nihilus doesn't rank with even Revan.
He soley wins due to his ability which does not mean he is the most powerful. The Exile defeated him, but the Exile doesn't even rank within the top 10, thus its obvious Nihilus's force powers and lightsaber skills are not on par with the Most Powerful Jedi/Sith of all time.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Exactly, he consumes everything. How he was created doesn't matter, how he dies doesn't matter. Fact is he is a Sith, he uses a lightsaber and the Force, he counts.
Really, define "most powerful" for me.
Then quantify Nihilus' "power" with and without the force drain.
Show me definitively that the Ancients, since it was derived from them and we have a premise to assume otherwise, would also succumb to the attack.
Establish that Nihilus can exist without the Exile, as he was created from the wound in the force.
Substantiated that Nihilus was an effective force-user even without the force drain ability.
Wait... you can't. Ranking Nihilus is pointless, he can count, but only if you feel like trolling and screwing up rankings. Not only is his physical property undeclared, his entire nature is completely ambiguous, he's even less useable than Zonama Sekot. So stop with the bullshit and start using your head.
Obviously we can't quantify Nihilus' power without the drain. That's like asking to quantify Kun's power without the amulet.. The argument would go nowhere.. I've already mentioned that Nihilus only exists if the Exile exists, that and what Illustrious said puts him into the "I don't know" category.
Originally posted by hord06
He wasn't including him in a debate though. He was including him in his list of who is the most powerful.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Exactly. By "Nihilus is the most powerful" I mean he could beat any of the other guys. He does count, he is a character, after all. Even if he can't live without the Exile, he still counts as he's still powerful and could wtf pwn anybody, with the exception, perhaps, of Ragnos, if he knows how to block Force Drain.
Way to argue without knowledge, hm ?
That technique was put into a storehouse of ancient Sith knowledge means it came from the ancient Sith. Since they all don't ran arround to pwn eachother with it there must be a way to block it. A way that every ancient Sith new otherwise you won't see them using swords but instead go: *Move hand - zapp - "Oh my...was that you I just consumed with a handmovent ?"*
That means he most likely will get down against: Simus, Ragnos, Kressh, Sadow. Possibly Kun if the knowledge to block said technique was found in the sources Sadow left on Yavin 4. Hell...he might go down vs virtually anybody that ran across ancient Sith knowledge before if it was the needed ancient Sith knowledge... 😉
Back on topic...
Yoda and Mace beat sidious. We see luke pwn sids in a saber battle. 2 of the most powerful jedi ever (of the ones we know) will WTFpwn sidious in a saber contest and since this is a fight to the death sidious will lose more than just his arm. No storm without a head you know.
also, i havent been here in a while so what is a "troll"?