Kit Fisto vs Atris.

Who wins?

Kit

I severely doubt Atris can keep up with him in a saber fight, but Atris had alot of Sith artifacts, teachings, etc. I'd say her force powers exceeds Fisto.

But then again, she was a Librarian... like Yaddle... while Fisto was a premier duelist.

She was hot though

Atris would beat Kit Fisto. She was a Sith Lady (At least, before the content got dropped before shipping), and possessed the ability to use Force lightning on top of being an Echani and a former council member with plenty of access to jedi and sith archives. Keep in mind that it was knowledge of the force that made Dooku formidable, not just his saber skills. Same with Yaddle; she had plenty of access to ancient archives and she developed Morichiro as a result. I don't think Kit would just punk out and die; he'd put up a good fight- but Sith generally outclass Jedi.

Sith outclass Jedi huh? You tell that to Artoo.

Artoo?

Originally posted by tdtd
Sith outclass Jedi huh? You tell that to Artoo.

When it comes to fighting, Sith do usually outclass Jedi.

They're trained to hunt Jedi and destroy them. To be raw fighting machines.

There is also the fact that the jedi code and ways restrict them from fighting to their best ability.

Originally posted by hord06
There is also the fact that the jedi code and ways restrict them from fighting to their best ability.

No, they can fight to their best ability. They just can't use anger or emotions.

Some would argue that holding back those emotions limits the fighter. Of course, there must be moderation- using too much anger can blind you, as it did to Anakin.

And these restrictions often prevent them from fighting to their best ability.

But the point remains, Sith are more martial.

I wouldn't say that the sith in any given period were ever more martial then the jedi, with the exception of the ancient sith in Marka Ragnos' time (civil wars and what not).

Well, certainly in the days of KotOR and the PT, the Sith were far more martial then the jedi. During the Jedi versus Sith comics era, both were equally warlike, but that seems to be where KotOR is inconsistant with the Eu timeline.

But a Sith will trump your average jedi any day. Case in point- Sidious was far from a truly martial sith, yet he pwned three jedi masters and contended with two very good ones. I'd say that just embracing the dark side gives you an edge over a jedi in combat.

But the only wars the sith usually wage are with the jedi and the republic. Now considering this alone, this does not put them above the jedi in terms of who are more martial and actually suggests that they are as martial as each other. Now considering that when the sith are not waging war against the republic, they pretty much stay off the radar and carry out their plans in secret, while the jedi usually concentrate on other threats that disturb the peace which often boils down to war, I would definitely say that the jedi tend to be more martial then the sith.

No, Jedi are definitely not more Martial than the Sith. That's outright ridiculous.

Especially during the times of the PT, seeing as they didn't even know the Sith existed.

In the end, the Sith were more Martial in the PT and OT era, seeing as one Sith Master managed to control an army, manipulate a large power such as the Republic and throw the Jedi into complete nonexistence for twenty years by turning their own army against them, killing almost every single one.

Not to mention, that Sith Master killed three Jedi within ten seconds and managed to keep himself alive long enough to destroy one of the Orders best Jedi. He was on par with the other most powerful Jedi in the order - Yoda.

Sidious had completely dominated the Galaxy during the PT times and the Sith were always more Martial and they always will be more martial.

Saying that an order of peacekeepers is more martial is pathetically absurd, sorry to say.

The Sith spend their time killing each other and honing their skills. This is shown time and again. Shadowhunter shows Maul training extensively with Sidious. KotOR I and II show that the Sith spend their time in study and in personal combat amongst each other. Jedi versus Sith shows that the Sith maintained an army, as they did in other time periods.

And again, the dark side is stronger in personal combat.

Originally posted by Antediluvian
No, Jedi are definitely not more Martial than the Sith. That's outright ridiculous.

Especially during the times of the PT, seeing as they didn't even know the Sith existed.

In the end, the Sith were more Martial in the PT and OT era, seeing as one Sith Master managed to control an army, manipulate a large power such as the Republic and throw the Jedi into complete nonexistence for twenty years by turning their own army against them, killing almost every single one.

Not to mention, that Sith Master killed three Jedi within ten seconds and managed to keep himself alive long enough to destroy one of the Orders best Jedi. He was on par with the other most powerful Jedi in the order - Yoda.

Sidious had completely dominated the Galaxy during the PT times and the Sith were always more Martial and they always will be more martial.

Saying that an order of peacekeepers is more martial is pathetically absurd, sorry to say.

Everything you have mentioned does not in any way prove that the sith were more martial. Sidious defeating 3 great jedi masters does not indicate that the sith are more martial. Sidious defeating the order's best jedi does not indicate that the sith are more martial. Sidious destroying the jedi and the republic through manipulation does not indicate that the sith are more martial.

I think you guys might be misreading what I am saying. I agree that the sith are generally more powerful, but they are hardly ever more martial.