Kit Fisto vs Atris.

But you're thinking more on a war-scale basis and less on the aspect of what "martial" really is... I mean, the Sith train to kill and dominate others. The jedi do NOT. They practice rather defensive and even lax styles. Every sith we meet in the series is balls to the wall martial and aggressive. They practice the art of misleading, killing, and dominating. Sounds like martial tactics to me. As opposed to peace, serenity, and diplomacy. I mean, just because jedi are IN more battles doesn't mean they are martial people.

Originally posted by hord06
Everything you have mentioned does not in any way prove that the sith were more martial. Sidious defeating 3 great jedi masters does not indicate that the sith are more martial. Sidious defeating the order's best jedi does not indicate that the sith are more martial. Sidious destroying the jedi and the republic through manipulation does not indicate that the sith are more martial.

Yeah, and Sidious also owning the Galaxy for around twenty five years doesn't prove he's more Martial.

Don't even try to troll with me. You have no evidence against my claims and the Jedi are not more Martial.

Notice how the Jedi avoid Lightsaber duels and try to end wars and avoid conflict?

Notice how the Sith try to hunt down and destroy the Jedi, try to start wars and try to initiate conflict?

So, one Sith killing over a thousand Jedi and crippling a thousand year government doesn't prove he's more Martial?

Wow. You're ridiculous.

The sith are more martial is a given, there's nothing to argue.

Oh well I always thought of the meaning of 'martial' as warlike (this is one of the definitions on google definition). But from the meaning that you are using, I suppose the sith are more martial.

Originally posted by Antediluvian
Yeah, and Sidious also owning the Galaxy for around twenty five years doesn't prove he's more Martial.

Don't even try to troll with me. You have no evidence against my claims and the Jedi are not more Martial.

Notice how the Jedi avoid Lightsaber duels and try to end wars and avoid conflict?

Notice how the Sith try to hunt down and destroy the Jedi, try to start wars and try to initiate conflict?

So, one Sith killing over a thousand Jedi and crippling a thousand year government doesn't prove he's more Martial?

Wow. You're ridiculous.

Dude I'm not ridiculous. Janus and I were simply thinking of different meanings of the word 'martial'. By the way are you always this paranoid. Please explain how I was trolling or insulting you.

Originally posted by hord06
Dude I'm not ridiculous. Janus and I were simply thinking of different meanings of the word 'martial'. By the way are you always this paranoid. Please explain how I was trolling or insulting you.

I didn't say you were trolling, dude. Learn how to read.

I said don't think about it.

I had a feeling you were on of these people that were just going to continously go "No they aren't! I don't have proof against your claim, but they just aren't!"

Actually, I wasn't being paranoid, I made an assumption about the way you are.

Well saying 'don't even try to troll with me' heavily indicates that you believed I was trolling.

Originally posted by hord06
Well saying 'don't even try to troll with me' heavily indicates that you believed I was trolling.

If you read it, it indicates I was telling you not to attempt to troll against me.

Stop making it more complex than it actually is.

And the context that you used it in indicates that you believed I was already trolling with you.

Girls, girls, settle down, you're both pretty. Let's get back on topic. We don't know much about Atris, but she was on the council, did have access to holcrons, had Echani training (I believe), and wasn't half bad at fighting (gameplay, but that's all I have, sorry), so... based purely on speculation, she could probably beat Kit.

Originally posted by hord06
And the context that you used it in indicates that you believed I was already trolling with you.

No, see? NOW you're trolling with me.

How the hell can you tell me what I used it in? I posted it. I think I know what context I used it in.

Even so, anyone with half a brain can see that I was telling you not to initiate trolling with me.

Bottom line.

I'm really not trolling with you. lol it doesn't matter. I was just pissed because you called me ridiculous even though I wasn't wrong and you indicated that I was trolling.

Originally posted by hord06
Artoo?

Originally posted by hord06
I'm really not trolling with you. lol it doesn't matter. I was just pissed because you called me ridiculous even though I wasn't wrong and you indicated that I was trolling.

Let's clear something up here, Hord.

You were completely wrong by saying the Jedi are more martial than the Sith. That's outrageously ridiculous!

I didn't indicate that you were trolling whatsoever. I said "don't even try trolling with me".

I would like to elaborate on the words "DON'T EVEN TRY".

I was telling basically not to attempt to troll with me because it would get you nowhere.

Kit Fisto gets fisted.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Kit Fisto gets fisted.

Yup.

I say Kit. Only coz it took a SITH LORD to take him down!

Yeah, while he barely put up a fight.

And Atris is a SITH LORD, btw.

Yeah, but that depends on which Atris we're talkin about... Jedi Master or Sith lord?

Dunno if it matters though, coz I haven't played the game, only read about it...

If you ask me, Kit actually did rather well against Sids. The only thing that spoilt the fight was the sudden, unorthodox move Sids pulled off whilst Kit was in the middle of an attack. Had it not been for that move, I believe Kit would have lasted much longer. (And if Ian could fight half decently he probably would've lasted a helluva lot longer)

Originally posted by MEDVOCK
Yeah, but that depends on which Atris we're talkin about... Jedi Master or Sith lord?

Dunno if it matters though, coz I haven't played the game, only read about it...

If you ask me, Kit actually did rather well against Sids. The only thing that spoilt the fight was the sudden, unorthodox move Sids pulled off whilst Kit was in the middle of an attack. Had it not been for that move, I believe Kit would have lasted much longer. (And if Ian could fight half decently he probably would've lasted a helluva lot longer)

What in the hell? Kit was completely outmaneuvered by Sidious while he was fighting Mace.

Kit got owned.