-Fist Fight- KIT FISTO VS DARTH MAUL

Started by Antediluvian16 pages
Originally posted by hord06
I actually think that Maul would win, but why is everyone picking on Medvock. He has debated well, and his arguments are all valid. Sorgo, height does matter in a fight. You clearly have never been in a fight your whole life, but believe me, it matters. And if what Medvock is saying is true, then Fisto would be able to sense Maul's emotions and use it to his advantage.

I'm twenty six.

You're sixteen.

I've been in several fights, seeing as I used to be a Kickboxer.

Height doesn't matter.

How am I sixteen? And seeing as you are a 26 year old star wars nerd, I doubt you have been in many fights. And height making a difference is actually MORE evident with a martial art like kick boxing. How tall are you anyway?

Originally posted by Blaxican_Hydra
Actually Sorgo and Medvoc your both wrong on a few accounts.

Height dies generaly matter in a fight. Now if the shorter person is trained or knows how to use his shrtness to there advantage. If Shaq got in a wrestling match with Tom Cruise who would you honestly think would win? The 7 foot giant or the 5 foot Shrimp? Hence the theory of the "I'm bigger than you, so give me your lunch moey" theory. A bully goes around, and sense hes bigger than others, basicly orders them around. Height can definantly matter in a fight. But so can being short, which leads to my next topic...

Medvoc your wrong on the account of shorter people being slower and generaly weaker. It is true that you won't see shorter people lifting and throwing taller people around like rag dolls, but thats because of weight difference, not strength. IF the shorter person works out every day, lifting weights and for the last 8 years, and goes against a tallger guy who hasn't even touched a weight for several years, and mostly sits around all day eating ice cream and debating on the KMC forums. Who do you think will win? The shrimp whose been pumping iron for years, and probably has the muscle to show it? Or the tall out of shape guy whose probably on his death bed from high colestral and hasn't even worked out for years? My vote is on the short guy.

Next is the generalzation that taller people are faster than shorter people because they can take longer strides. This is can go both ways really. Have you ever noticed that in basketball they have the big beefy players sit around and make dunks, catch rebounds and so on, while the shorter guys kind of zip around the court all day? Thats because actually shorter people tend to be afster and moe athleteic than taller people. I'm a 14 year old 6 foot black guy who does track and basket ball on a team, and I most of the time beat the shorter filipinos at my school because of my longer reach and height, thus making me closer to the basket to dunk or 2 point shots. But in Track I tend to get outran by my fellows in the dashes. The reason for this is mass. Shorter people have les body mass, so they must move less mass in every step, making them go faster and use less energy. A tall guy(for my age) such as msyelf needs to move almost twice as much mass than they do, making me use twice as much energy. So in the beggining I might go faster because of a rapid burst. But I will slow down quite fast and get dusted.

First of all, your sports analogies and the Cruise to Shaq analogies are irrelevant and do not apply to the relevant situation.

Sports = Star Wars? No, the Analogy does not apply.

Maul is 1.70 Meters. Kit is 1.96 Meters.

The height dividend does not matter in this situation.

Height doesn't matter in ANY situation. Short people have their advantages and Tall people have their advantages. The fact that height is even remotely relevant to this debate is ridiculous anyways, seeing as the distance of height between Maul and Kit is pathetically scarce.

Let this Thread die.

There is a big difference in height between 6'6 Fisto and 5'8 Maul.

Originally posted by Hokage Yoda
Kit will be RAPED

And you need to not use that analogy. Rape is serious, not funny, and not relevant to the situation. And Maul won't even "pwn" Kit. Kit is good, and will lose after a tough fight.

They failed because they lacked the brains. They’re idiots! They pounced on maul when he had his saber ignited! I stand by what I said earlier.

No, they pounced on Maul to try to attack him. They're the only ones that touched Maul throughout that fight. He stomped them and continued.

FANBOYISM ALERT!!!

You fool. That's what he did.

Have you read the Maul Comics? HE KICKS THE CRAP OUT OF EVERYONE AND KILLS THEM. I'm no Maul fanboy. Ask anyone on this damn board.

[quote]Are you saying that being able to move his body in two and three directions at once is not unorthodox? Kit would most definitely have an unorthodox fighting style; he has a friggin rubber back bone! (ya know what I mean). Anyway, Obi-Wan was awed by his fighting style. He mentions that he was moving in such ways humans could only dream of whilst he was fighting a group of mercenaries, thus he has an unorthodox fighting style. Kit’s unlimited vertebrae is the only evidence I need for Kit being able to kick Maul’s ass. Besides this, he is also very stocky, fast, and smart.

IF he has a rubber back bone, this means he can touch the back of his feet both ways forwards and backwards, twist his body at a 180 degree angle and touch his ankles at a vertical slant bending sideways. He can't move in two or three directions at once. He's a Humanoid. That's a physical impossibility.

LOL! That's like me saying "Mauls a Sith and he has horns so that's why he could kill Kit!"

You don't have much more than the vertebrae.

Not to mention Maul is a Martial Artist. He probably has training dealing with rare foes.

Maul may be able to resist Kit’s hits, but for how long? Unless you are implying he is invincible, Maul cannot resist every single punch Kit throws at him. It is unknown how exactly Maul resisted the force lightning given off by Mighella, but I assume it was the dark side’s doing. Although Maul may be highly resistant to pain, his body is not resistant to damage (unless he is somehow invincible). Thus, Kit could still break Maul’s back.

Seeing as we've so evidence Kit has resistance, what if he doesn't even get a hit in? Maul is a Martial Artist. He could probably dodge Kit's punch and lay out a nice kick or jab.

Kit probably isn't resistant to pain or damage, so when Maul comes in for the hits, Kit is feeling it.

Yes, considering he has the ability to dodge anything Maul throws at him.

No! He isn't invincible! Maul's a Martial Artist. He's going to go to town on Kit. The second Kit dodged one of Maul's maneuvers, Maul would probably come back up with a boot to his face.

Yeah, but that link had only two savages, not three. I assumed you were speaking of different beasts. And you still haven’t provided proof as to if they even have unlimited vertebrae.

The back of their heads were touching their backs. They HAD unlimited vertebrae and Maul kicked their ass. He snapped one of their necks, too.

“That kind of assassin”? Has Maul ever gone up against that kind of Nautolan? Kit may have never dueled a sith lord in saber combat (at least not before ROTS), but he certainly knows a thing or two about unarmed fighting.

Maul knows alot about unarmed Fighting. He's killed Jedi and has experience killing large groups of enemies. He's gone up against Sidious and he actually survived AND lasted longer.

And now you say Kit would be no match?

Ah, Medvock. I started researching both Characters and found Maul to be rather surpassed compared to Kit.

If Mauls mind was clouded, Kit’s tentacles would not be able to detect any emotion and hence would IGNORE it all together. And how could Maul hurt Kit with just his emotions? How can tentacles be harmed by emotion? They only detect emotion, they don’t absorb it.

That Iktotchi that read Maul's mind could only detect his thoughts and he died. Kit would sense Maul's deep dark emotions and it would probably injure him. Either that or Kit wouldn't even sense his emotions and then Kit wouldn't get another edge in the fight.

Even so, if Maul’s confidence does not alter, Kit can still use Mauls overconfidence to his advantage.

This is if Kit can even read Maul's emotions. If he does, he's going to get darkness that could possibly injure him or Maul may be clouded and he'll get nothing.

By sensing his opponents emotion after they react to Kit’s fighting style, he can detect how his enemy reacts to his moves. Thus, if the opponent gains confidence and anticipates Kit’s moves, or loses their confidence and thus becomes uncertain of how to react to Kit’s moves, he is able to use this to his advantage.

No, see, you're placing Emotions and Reactions in the same category. Finding an elusive emotional pattern would most likely be an impossibility, seeing as Mauls mind is clouded and it's so dark, it could injure Kit like I mentioned earlier.

Let’s just say there are these two people. They are both the same height and both the same build. Suddenly, one of them drinks some Uberness potion and becomes taller. As he grows, his muscles become larger. Who do you think will win? Well, personally, I think the larger person would win...

Each side has it's own advantages.

No, it wouldn't! That's damn ridiculous! Height does not determine the outcome of a F2F fights WHATSOEVER!

Nope.

At least I am not the only one on these boards who knows height matters in a fight.

Anyone who thinks taller people have an advantage over shorter people. They both have good things.

You idiot, I was referring to this debate. My age does not matter AT ALL in this debate.

Of course it does. You lack experience.

As one grows, their muscles expand and thus become larger. So I suppose height does affect strength.

Their muscles expand to fit their body. This doesn't mean they get bigger or smaller. Notice how taller people have longer biceps, longer triceps, etc etc?

Shorter people can also compact more muscle into their meager frame.

I get the feeling that your implying short people are stronger than taller people. What’s this about spreading muscles? If the taller person had a muscular build relevant to his height, his bulge equation should be higher than a shorter persons.

No! That's not true! This isn't Biology according to Medvock.

A Tall person and a short person have the same Muscle to Height ratio. A taller person cannot get more muscular than a short person. That's ridiculous! Any which one can get just as bigger as the other.

The shorter person would take less spacious steps compared to a taller person. Hence, taller people should, in general, be faster.

No, now you're virtually trying to say that Tall people are always more muscular, faster and better. That's ridiculous. I said if I wanted to be a biased *******, I could say smaller people are quicker because they have more space to work with, they're more muscular because of the space dividends they have throughout their body and I could also say that Tall people would have difficulties hitting a shorter person or even hurting them.

That would be what I'd say If I was a biased moron.

Yes, that is all my opinion: Kit Fisto survived the blow he received from Sidious and that he was merely caught in between his own attack, which from a visual perspective is true.

Of course he was caught between his attack! He wasn't fast enough to react or use his unlimited vertebrae to block it. Sidious was simply quicker and more skilled.

Naa.

Then cry here while I smash you. I don't care!

Originally posted by hord06
How am I sixteen? And seeing as you are a 26 year old star wars nerd, I doubt you have been in many fights. And height making a difference is actually MORE evident with a martial art like kick boxing. How tall are you anyway?

You're ten year old Star Wars Nerd who got banned from this site several times for being a complete moron.

You can't debate worth shit. Hell, when you were here as Numan, you never won a single debate. You always lost because you sucked at debating.

I'm 6'3. I've fought shorter people with Martial Arts Experience and trust me when I say it isn't easy to win. Shorter people are often more agile and have less room to fill out muscle, so they compact quickly and become huge within small amounts of time.

Saying that "Taller people are better!" Is so outright ridiculous!

Originally posted by hord06
There is a big difference in height between 6'6 Fisto and 5'8 Maul.

You mean 6'3 Kit compared to 5'12 Maul.

Learn the Meter to Inch ratio measurements, kid.

Originally posted by Antediluvian
You're ten year old Star Wars Nerd who got banned from this site several times for being a complete moron.

Saying that "Taller people are better!" Is so outright ridiculous!

True, but your saying height absolutely is NEVER a actor ina fight is not true. And were did I ever say it was relevent to the topic? I was just correcting your mistakes, as a side note of sorts.

Originally posted by Blaxican_Hydra
True, but your saying height absolutely is NEVER a actor ina fight is not true. And were did I ever say it was relevent to the topic? I was just correcting your mistakes, as a side note of sorts.

No, it isn't. Because the obvious fact is each height has it's advantages and negatives.

Saying that one is better than the other is preposterous.

Originally posted by Antediluvian
You mean 6'3 Kit compared to 5'12 Maul.

Learn the Meter to Inch ratio measurements, kid.

"Maul is 1.70 Meters. Kit is 1.96 Meters."

170cm is 5'8 and 196cm is about 6'6. Isn't self ownage fun. 😄

Originally posted by Antediluvian
No, it isn't. Because the obvious fact is each height has it's advantages and negatives.

Saying that one is better than the other is preposterous.

I never said one was, or are you referring to Medvoc?

However if both combatants are tall, and one is slightly taller, he gains advantage due to his added height, whereas the other gains no advantage due to his lack of height. My bodyguard also backed this up. If you still doubt this I will explain myself in about two hours, as I don't have time now as I'm watching the Washington Cleaveland game.

Originally posted by hord06
"Maul is 1.70 Meters. Kit is 1.96 Meters."

170cm is 5'8 and 196cm is about 6'6. Isn't self ownage fun. 😄


Isn't being wrong fun?

Times whatever the meters are by 39/37.

Subtract the next equation by a dividend of around 15 and you have the height.

1.70 metres is 170cm. 30cm is 12 inches which is 1 foot. 170/30 is 5 2/3. That is 5'8. Maul is 5'8. 1.96 metres is 196cm. 196/30 is roughly 6 1/2 which is 6'6. Kit is 6'6.

Originally posted by hord06
1.70 metres is 170cm. 30cm is 12 inches which is 1 foot. 170/30 is 5 2/3. That is 5'8. Maul is 5'8. 1.96 metres is 196cm. 196/30 is roughly 6 1/2 which is 6'6. Kit is 6'6.

And now for the easy way:

Times the amount of Centimeters by 0.39 to get the approximation value, which with 196 would be 6'4 and the 170 times the 0.39 would be an equation value of around 6'2 or 6'3.

I'm 183 centimetres tall and I'm around 6'2. If I shoved that in the middle between 170 and 190, Kit would only be around 6'4 and Maul would be 6'1 or 6'2.

That's how it's done.

Are you high?

Sorgo... 5' 12'' isn't a height ,anyway, guys, shut up about the height, it doesn't matter much, and it certainly won't matter enough to determine the outcome of this battle.

Maul has shown us more experience in fighting both unarmed and armed with a lightsaber than Kit (not that the latter one counts).

Maul is in better physical condition and trains more.

Maul is extremely resilient to pain. A few reasons are
* He is a martial artist and would know how to roll with any blows that hit him.
* Zabraks are naturally resilient to pain.
* He is muscular and can absorb hits.
* He has extreme Sith training to take pain and ignore all sorts of damage.

Maul and Kit are both flexible, Kit doesn't have vertebrate that are typical of humans, but Maul has trained and worked on flexibility and, being the great martial artist that he is, knows, his limits, and how to work with them.

Kit and Maul have both shown to be strong.

Maul has the definite terrain advantage. They are in the freaking desert. Maul is fine with that. Nautolans won't operate to their best degree unless they are in a moist area. Not to mention that Maul could kick sand in Kit's over-sized eyes.

For the record jim, is Sorgo's math correct or incorrec