Mace Windu versus Count Dooku

Originally posted by Rampant ox
Which means he didnt use his duelling or force abilities to win but his knowledge of politics and persuasion. Either way he had the winning strategy.

Hell no. Mace would have curbstomped Sidious and the Galaxy would be all hunky dory.

OK Mace probably won that battle but it was a fluke. On any other day Palps would have won. And none of this means that Mace could beat Count Dooku.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
OK Mace probably won that battle but it was a fluke. On any other day Palps would have won. And none of this means that Mace could beat Count Dooku.

I'm not arguing that Mace could defeat Dooku, damn it!

Yeah, at the beginning of the battle, Mace accidentally tripped on a rock and that was him tripping throughout the whole battle. He managed to then trip on another rock to block Sidious' Lightning. The other four Jedi tripped on rocks and got unlucky. Mace just happened to survive because his rock was special!

Mace worked Sidious. Get over it.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
OK Mace probably won that battle but it was a fluke. On any other day Palps would have won. And none of this means that Mace could beat Count Dooku.

Prove this. Your opinion doesn't mean jack shit.

If you say so. I hate Sidious anyway and I was just arguing for him because I hate Mace more. The way he told Anakin to chop off the great Counts head is just more than I can take. I get great pleasure in the end of ROTJ when both Palps and anakin die.

Originally posted by Rampant ox
If you say so. I hate Sidious anyway and I was just arguing for him because I hate Mace more. The way he told Anakin to chop off the great Counts head is just more than I can take. I get great pleasure in the end of ROTJ when both Palps and anakin die.

^ Deja vu. 😆

It's very close, but I would just about give it to Mace as IMO he is slightly greater the Dooku in both the force and saber dueling.

Actually I think Mace is superior in neither dueling or the force. We need to remember that Count Dookus fighting style is made for saber vs saber combat. Then take into account Dooku has mastered this style he will smash almost any other duelist. In regard to hif force abilities the Count is knowledgable in both the light and the dark side which gives him the advantage. Overall Dooku will win but probably only just.

Originally posted by hord06
It's very close, but I would just about give it to Mace as IMO he is slightly greater the Dooku in both the force and saber dueling.

What the hell?

Dooku is superior to Mace when it comes to the Force. That's a given, dude.

They're on par with Saber combat.

If you are going to post ridiculous comments like Mace is better than Dooku in the force could you please back it up with something.

I don't know how people suddenly think that Mace > Dooku in saber combat. Where is that coming from?

Originally posted by Janus Marius
I don't know how people suddenly think that Mace > Dooku in saber combat. Where is that coming from?

"D00d, M4c3 b34t3d t3h duku's master! so,., . 2fd 1f m4c3 b34tz t3h m4st3rz, h3 c4n pw/\/ teh appareneeparentice!111 lolzorxorss!!1111oneoneleevlelevne!11."

^ That's basically the only thing they have going for them right now when it comes to a debate.

Could I even consider that a debate? Or just useless semantics?

Dooku and Mace are relatively equal in saber combat because they have both mastered their respective styles.The Counts style would top Maces style because it is made for saber vs saber. Im not saying Dooku would win by much but he would still win.

Originally posted by Antediluvian
"D00d, M4c3 b34t3d t3h duku's master! so,., . 2fd 1f m4c3 b34tz t3h m4st3rz, h3 c4n pw/\/ teh appareneeparentice!111 lolzorxorss!!1111oneoneleevlelevne!11."

^ That's basically the only thing they have going for them right now when it comes to a debate.

Could I even consider that a debate? Or just useless semantics?

I just find it annoying that people say Mace is going to just surpass Dooku cuz he's cooler, or better, or blacker... etc. That's getting old. The only thing I can think of that tarnished the count's image in people's minds was that horrid ROTS beginning battle where Anakin "I pwn teh noobs" SKywalker killed him. But even there, we saw Dooku **** up Obi-Wan like it was his job and we saw what Obi-Wan did to Anakin.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
I just find it annoying that people say Mace is going to just surpass Dooku cuz he's cooler, or better, or blacker... etc. That's getting old. The only thing I can think of that tarnished the count's image in people's minds was that horrid ROTS beginning battle where Anakin "I pwn teh noobs" SKywalker killed him. But even there, we saw Dooku **** up Obi-Wan like it was his job and we saw what Obi-Wan did to Anakin.

Exactly.

Damn, Dooku should of said "How's your arm feeling, Skywalker?"

Pwn3d.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
I just find it annoying that people say Mace is going to just surpass Dooku cuz he's cooler, or better, or blacker... etc. That's getting old. The only thing I can think of that tarnished the count's image in people's minds was that horrid ROTS beginning battle where Anakin "I pwn teh noobs" SKywalker killed him. But even there, we saw Dooku **** up Obi-Wan like it was his job and we saw what Obi-Wan did to Anakin.

I agree completely. You cant base Dookus skill on the fight in ROTS because it doesnt do him justice. Dooku knew he was better than Anakin so underestimated him. Just because he lost doesnt mean Anakin was better. Dooku thought that Palps would step in if worst came to worst so he wasnt going all out.

Meh, whether or not Dooku thought Sidious was reffing the fight, he wasn't going balls to the wall against Anakin, that's bloody obvious. Same thing with Vader versus Luke in ROTJ.

Yeah, people tend to believe Dooku is inferior to Mace just because Anakin beat him and Mace beat Sidious, which is downright fallacious.

Dooku is nothing special when it comes to force power. He may know a few dark side powers that Mace doesn't, but his raw force power is lower then Mace's in my opinion. I mean Yoda was able to hand absorb Dooku's lightning with considerable ease and his telekinesis was far superior in AOTC. Mace is shown to possess huge amounts of raw force power. He displays this several times against Grievous and countless times in Shatterpoint.

But Dookus force powers will win the battle. You see Dooku only duels with one hand which means at any time during the fight he could lift his other hand and force lightning his opponent. If Mace went to block the lightning he would get his balls chopped off, simple as that.