How people make a big deal about a gay movie but not care about violent deaths
Why does America make a big deal about Brokeback Mountain simply because it has two gay guys, yet when they see bloody, gruesome, horrible death they couldn't careless.
I've seen movies that show people cutting there wrists, mutilating people's corpses and no one cares about that stuff - why?
cause the american mentallity is shocked by sex and desensitised to violence when it's the other way in most other parts of the world. That's why a movie like closer would probably recieve a less severe rating than raiders of the lost ark, depending on the country.
Plus it seems like the only filmmaker in this country who has a liscence to depict gay people as the are without any stereotyping is Kevin Smith.
Mostly because our culture just simply has violence as a part of it. (I'm talking America) To be honest, homosexuality is just wierd to those that aren't homosexuals. However, making a big deal out of it just makes no sense on both sides of this argument. If you don't like what the movie is about, your best protest is just don't buy it.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
Mostly because our culture just simply has violence as a part of it. (I'm talking America) To be honest, homosexuality is just wierd to those that aren't homosexuals. However, making a big deal out of it just makes no sense on both sides of this argument. If you don't like what the movie is about, your best protest is just don't buy it.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
How is homosexuality weird? is it the physical act of love?
These days you can't even watch straight porn without seeing a girl take it in the butt or turn forty without getting a prostate exam (unless your a squeemish dipshit who'd rather die a slow and painful death) so that shouldn't be weird.
I don't watch porn. Gross stuff. Men weren't built to have sex with other men. It's not in our chemistry. If you believe in evolution, then the first thought in your mind should be that what the person is doing isn't good for the entire human race.
Originally posted by Eis
Don't speak for all heterosexuals.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
I don't watch porn. Gross stuff. Men weren't built to have sex with other men. It's not in our chemistry. If you believe in evolution, then the first thought in your mind should be that what the person is doing isn't good for the entire human race.Don't you either. A good percentage of America thinks it's odd. Why the hell else would it be illegal in most states for homosexuals to be married? Wait, wait, I know the first thought in your mind is, "They're a bunch of ignorant Rednecks, or bunch of ignorant bigots." To be honset, it takes one to know one in that case. You're just as close-minded if you're telling someone that they're wrong flat out without looking at all the angles.
Originally posted by Eis
What the ****? I didn't for a second speak for all heterosexuals. You said and I quote you 'homosexuality is just weird to those that aren't homosexuals.' I said don't speak for all heterosexuals. 🙄
What I was trying to get across is that for the general public, homosexuality is odd. Not every heterosexual thinks it is, but many do. I have friends who are homosexuals, and they know I think it's wierd. My friend Jamie put it best like this: "If I went of and shoved my beliefs down your throat, I might as well try to rape you and force you to think what I think. If I make love to someone, they have a general consensus. Last time I checked, making love was better than rape, and being yourself was better than being a jerk."
Jamie is a lesbian, and it's not her real name either. I just threw one out there so I protect her rights.
Originally posted by Thunderstrike
What I was trying to get across is that for the general public, homosexuality is odd. Not every heterosexual thinks it is, but many do. I have friends who are homosexuals, and they know I think it's wierd. My friend Jamie put it best like this: "If I went of and shoved my beliefs down your throat, I might as well try to rape you and force you to think what I think. If I make love to someone, they have a general consensus. Last time I checked, making love was better than rape, and being yourself was better than being a jerk."Jamie is a lesbian, and it's not her real name either. I just threw one out there so I protect her rights.
Originally posted by Darth Jello
you're denying gay couples the liberty to be married and recognized as having the same legal status and rights as a straight married couple.
I didn't deny jack. I didn't vote on the matter. Also, when these laws were written out, Gay marriage wasn't something that people accepted. At all. I didn't write the laws. I just follow them. If such and such wants to get married, find a place that it's legal and get married. If it isn't legal, try to change the laws, but don't go yelling at me because the law is the way it is.
Here it is:
Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section. 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
Section. 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section. 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section. 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
It's Congress' decision then. Nothing is being violated. They're the ones enforcing the provisions by appropriate legislation. If homosexuals are denied, then they have to live with it. There's no violation if you read the whole ammendment carefully.
Originally posted by Eis
That wasn't necessary. You said 'homosexuality is weird to those that aren't homosexuals.' that statement was WRONG, period. Good day.
Actually, it'd be more of the norm, especially the older the individual. You're young- in your day, homosexuality has broken a lot of stigmas and come out as something very prevalent and almost like a trend. While it's always existed, the attitude towards it is only just now changing in the United States. However, back when I was young (Between twelve and fifteen), it was NOT something well understood or well liked. I went to school in over four different states during that span of time, and in each one suspected or verified homosexuals were picked on and outright attacked on a daily basis. If you looked to the parents, the average parent was against the idea of their child being gay and suspicious of others whom they suspected were different. This doesn't speak for ALL heterosexual people in a nutshell, but it is a point of how viewpoints are only just now changing. Not everyone's going to be comfortable with it yet, and certainly no one should jump down their throat for not being comfortable with it (Unless they're openly being hateful, which is different).