How people make a big deal about a gay movie but not care about violent deaths

Originally posted by BackFire
A movie being genuinely good doesn't make you want to go and watch it?

Don't follow that reasoning, but alright.

The Ten Commandments is a genuinely good movie. Do you own a copy?

There's a LOT of movies that are "good". But the type of movie (dramatic love story) doesn't really make me want to run out and watch it. If I saw every movie that was "genuinely good", I'd have less free time than I already do. There's just nothing about the story or setting that is appealing.

I don't own it, but I've seen it.

If I think a film is going to be genuinely very good, then I'm going to make a point to see it at least once.

Well, I see what you're saying. I'm just different. And I have a short attention span when it comes to new movies, so I forget that they're out until they're on video.

Originally posted by thorncrawler
throwing an idea out there how about a horror film with a gay couple in it!!!!!!!shocking

"From the co-creator of Halloween and the executive producer of A Nightmare On Elm Street is Hellbent, the first gay slasher film!"

Thunderstrike> "Men weren't built to have sex with other men. It's not in our chemistry."
Says WHO?

"A good percentage of America thinks it's odd. Why the hell else would it be illegal in most states for homosexuals to be married? Wait, wait, I know the first thought in your mind is, "They're a bunch of ignorant Rednecks, or bunch of ignorant bigots." To be honset, it takes one to know one in that case. You're just as close-minded if you're telling someone that they're wrong flat out without looking at all the angles."

This is the best example of bad argumentation-technique I have seen ALL evening. Glad to see you're on teh other side of the fence. That a "good percentage" (which? Where are your numbers?) thinks something doesn't make it true. Once a "good percentage" thought commoners shouldn't be allowed to vote, slavery was alright and the Earth was flat!
Then you go on and ASSUME the stand-point of your opponent to attack him personally!! THIS is really hilarious! Shame on you....

Lil bithiness>"That could significantly damage everyone in their decision to be straight." Good point! YES! Violent movies make people more violent so of course movies with gay people will make us ALL more gay (<=irony, to the intellectually challenged).

BF> Clear, concise and humourous as always.

Originally posted by The Omega
Thunderstrike> "Men weren't built to have sex with other men. It's not in our chemistry."
Says WHO?

Biology 101

^That's a question that doesn't even require an answer.

DiamondBullets> 😆
You DO sound rather brainwashed from time to time.... Seriously. The words "Biology 101" do not say men were not built to have sex with other men.
Where in "Biology 101" does it say men were built to... shave? Drive cars? Wear glasses?
No, wait... Don't... 😆 bother...

Originally posted by The Omega
DiamondBullets> 😆
You DO sound rather brainwashed from time to time.... Seriously. The words "Biology 101" do not say men were not built to have sex with other men.
Where in "Biology 101" does it say men were built to... shave? Drive cars? Wear glasses?
No, wait... Don't... 😆 bother...

Biology states that reproduction is to occur between members of the opposite sex of the same species.

key word: OPPOSITE

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Biology states that reproduction is to occur between members of the opposite sex of the same species.

key word: OPPOSITE

You would almost have a point if sex was solely for procreation or if homosexuals had sex with one another expecting to reproduce. 🙄

I would just like to state that although the very thought of any religion in general makes me sick, The Ten Commandments is my favorite movie of all time.......and I do own a copy. 😉

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I would just like to state that although the very thought of any religion in general makes me sick, The Ten Commandments is my favorite movie of all time.......and I do own a copy. 😉

Yeah, The Ten Commandments is just a classic. It was on tv this weekend and I caught part of it while at work.

Diamondbullets> "Biology states..."
😆
Stop! You're killing me!!! Biology states NOTHING about having sex for fun! Like dolphins have and humans and a species of apes ...
"Where in "Biology 101" does it say men were built to... shave? Drive cars? Wear glasses?"
Why don't you go ballistic over lesbian sex? Because it turns you on, maybe??

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Biology states that reproduction is to occur between members of the opposite sex of the same species.

key word: OPPOSITE

Biology is a denotative. It is purely fact. You should say "If reproduction..." - the way you write it sounds like some sort of imperative.

But anyway - Biologically speaking the female body can be kept in an almost constant state of pregnancy up to menopause - does this mean that nine months of every year a women should be with child? Once back in our more primal days reproduction might have been an instinct and full time like that, but we are beyond that.

Biologically speaking a male can remain fertile up to (and over) the age of seventy. Biologically speaking he can mate and reproduce with many, many, many women. Should he? We are beyond such necessities.

And so on and so on. One of the pleasures of being sentient creatures is that we are not slaves to such conditions, and haven't been for some time. Sex is just as much for recreation now as reproduction. Likewise science has made it now that a same sex couple (two women) can have a child, or that two men or two women can adopt - sperm donors and and children awaiting adoption. We don't run out lives from a biology text book that says "reproduction is to occur between members of the opposite sex of the same species." We have moved beyond that, and it is time to face it.

A homosexual relationship is just as valid as a heterosexual one - whether it is casual, or a full time commitment built on love. Reproduction need not enter into it for either groups, and if it does then there are avenues that can be taken for both. The benefit of living in an increasingly enlightened society.

I'd like to think that Brokeback Mountain being a very very good film is enough to get people to see it, but alas, guess that isn't the case for a lot of people who would rather watch Bringing Down the House 3 than a great and important movie.

A sentiment I agree with entirely.

Originally posted by BlackC@

I've seen movies that show people cutting there wrists, mutilating people's corpses and no one cares about that stuff - why?

Why the *BEEP* would I care? It's a friggin movie! It's NOT real! If it would be real I would care and feel disgusted. But is NOT! So if I happen to enjoy a movie like let's say Hostel over Brokeback Mountain and I happen to enjoy it more than BM...does that mean I don't care??? Pleeeaase! The simple fact that BM keeps getting all these awards and praise is leading me to be suspicious that this could the new "Titanic" of this decade. And overblown romantic movie with a tragic end....sounds like something outta of a chick's flick.

Originally posted by Thunderstrike
You're just as close-minded if you're telling someone that they're wrong flat out without looking at all the angles.

Originally posted by BlackC@
Why does America make a big deal about Brokeback Mountain simply because it has two gay guys, yet when they see bloody, gruesome, horrible death they couldn't careless.

I've seen movies that show people cutting there wrists, mutilating people's corpses and no one cares about that stuff - why?

Sweet, it's changed, and to an even better name than what was probably one of the top 5 usernames here at KMC.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
because movies are made specificly to garner a response from it's audience. To attain this, generally they include aspects of different characters that people can relate to. Many of us would much rather be gruesomely, violently murdered than fu[b]cked in the ass. [/B]

True enough. 😄

Originally posted by Evil Dead
because movies are made specifically to garner a response from it's audience. To attain this, generally they include aspects of different characters that people can relate to. Many of us would much rather be gruesomely, violently murdered than ****ed in the ass.

Yeah, I mean, it's not like anal sex is something anybody does. Not like there aren't a lot of perfectly normal heterosexual couples that like that kind of thing, or have experimented with it.

But seriously, that makes it sound like it is homosexual pornography, which it isn't (if you wished to get all technical one would say it was tasteful.)

And are you actually saying that more people can relate to a person being gruesomely murdered with a rusty meat hook, then we can relate to two people being in a sexual (loving) relationship? I mean, I don't know anybody who has been gruesomely murdered. I haven't been gruesomely murdered myself. Most people are the same. I don know heterosexual and homosexual couples though - I can relate to friends, and characters that have something worth relating to - whether they are fighting for their lives, or just living them.

So I can't see how in this case one situation (the one least likely to happen and the more fantastical - ie gruesome murder) is easier to relate to then another situation (that is a normal part of many societies and a person is more likely to encounter - ie homosexual relationships.)

Originally posted by sithsaber408
True enough. 😄

god, wouldn't it be great if you were put to the test. ****ed in the ass, or death. I suppose you would march, with nobility, into death.

Riiiight.

Please, you'd be bent over faster than a two dollar hooker. Takinging it on one end, and praising Jesus with the other.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
god, wouldn't it be great if you were put to the test. ****ed in the ass, or death. I suppose you would march, with nobility, into death.

Riiiight.

Please, you'd be bent over faster than a two dollar hooker. Takinging it on one end, and praising Jesus with the other.

Indeed. In order to have a basis for comparison, he would have to have experienced both.