We have already been through this Soleran. 8th day Juggernaut is the same as classic Juggernaut, for if he wasn't then the world would be under control of one of the 8 Exemplars. Until you can prove otherwise thats how it's going to be.
So you must not be able to prove all that you stated about Champion in scans like I did Juggernaut?
I'll get to that, however its stated in the rules about the characters.
8th Day Juggernaut's feats were limited to 3 comics. That is certainly not how he is depicted all the time...................hence seeyea 8th day................................oh and those templars wouldn't have done anything if Dr Strange so much as flinched or if Thor just sent them to another dimension again it was for a juggs comics face it.
Originally posted by batdude123
At least I'm not a f*ckin' retard who goes on rants if somebody disagrees with Juggernaut winning. You protect him like he's your God or something. You also ignore everything that has been brought to your attention if it goes against Juggernaut. They're just comic books and you seriously need to calm down. 😉
Are you serious? I haven't been on one rant so don't lie.
If you can bring something up that I have ignored tell me. Oh wait you cant, because everything that he has stated that I disagreed with I posted scans to back me up. Something he nor you have been able to do.
So now I worship because I argue my point? what am I suppose to do, let him win? that would defeat the purpose of this thread.
don't make me bring up all the stupid things you said about Batman 1 million.
Um look at the polls you haven't let me do anything soujaboy.
Regardless, I haven't said Champion of the Universe would kill/destroy Juggernaut at all. What I have said is that because of their powers and skill sets Champion treats him like a toy hmm lets see experience wise 2,500,000,000 > 30 years of experience huh?
Originally posted by Soleran
BloodlustIt is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.Champion following those rules using the power primordal once again makes Juggernaut the Templar punching bag.
Champion is just as durable, Stronger, FASTER and has way more skill as well as blood-lusted using said skill as well as he can and with the power primodal.
Juggs has never shown any lvl of h2h other then swing and miss and toss and stomp............................Champion enjoys fighting its been his life for over 2 billion years.....................Cain has been the Juggernaut for how long again..........20 maybe 30?
Even then, when he went 8th day, it was him focusing, with a real goal to accomplish, not going to another level of power. So, blood-lusted juggernaut=8thday juggernaut, because that is the no bullshi*t juggernaut.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Are you serious? I haven't been on one rant so don't lie.If you can bring something up that I have ignored tell me. Oh wait you cant, because everything that he has stated that I disagreed with I posted scans to back me up. Something he nor you have been able to do.
So now I worship because I argue my point? what am I suppose to do, let him win? that would defeat the purpose of this thread.
don't make me bring up all the stupid things you said about Batman 1 million.
I haven't said as much stupid sh*t about Batman 1 Million as you did about Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Soleran
I'll get to that, however its stated in the rules about the characters.
8th Day Juggernaut's feats were limited to 3 comics. That is certainly not how he is depicted all the time...................hence seeyea 8th day................................oh and those templars wouldn't have done anything if Dr Strange so much as flinched or if Thor just sent them to another dimension again it was for a juggs comics face it.
I said this is a focused Juggernaut hence he can be as strong as 8th day Juggernaut, and stronger. That also means that Champion is at his peak with his power primordal.
Juggernaut has already fought Dr. Strange and Nova at the same time. You know what? he came out on top.
The same could be said that if Juggernaut wanted to we would no longer have a Thor in the 616 Universe. We can't just assume things
Originally posted by batdude123
I haven't said as much stupid sh*t about Batman 1 Million as you did about Juggernaut.
Since your going to make this claim, tell me something stupid that I said about Juggernaut. I haven't said anything about Juggernaut that didn't come with scans to back it up.
Tell me how many scans of Batman 1 million you have?
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Since your going to make this claim, tell me something stupid that I said about Juggernaut. I haven't said anything about Juggernaut that didn't come with scans to back it up.Tell me how many scans of Batman 1 million you have?
Show me where Juggernaut uses telepathy, telekinesis, and energy blasts from his hands on a normal basis. 🙄
However, having had years to adjust to the transformation, the Juggernaut’s will was not as overwhelmed by the entity he represented, enabling him to fight back and stop the Ceremony of the Octessence from occurring. [Thor (2nd series) #17, Peter Parker (2nd series) #11, Juggernaut: Eighth Day]
Now call me crazy but does that say he isn't as overwhelmed by the entity he represented? As a matter of fact it does and it shows us that Juggs wasn't just focused he was being overwhelmed by Cyttorak to do the "8th Day." So once again 8th isn't typical Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Soleran
However, having had years to adjust to the transformation, the Juggernaut’s will was not as overwhelmed by the entity he represented, enabling him to fight back and stop the Ceremony of the Octessence from occurring. [Thor (2nd series) #17, Peter Parker (2nd series) #11, Juggernaut: Eighth Day]Now call me crazy but does that say he isn't as overwhelmed by the entity he represented? As a matter of fact it does and it shows us that Juggs wasn't just focused he was being overwhelmed by Cyttorak to do the "8th Day." So once again 8th isn't typical Juggernaut.
Like I stated If Juggernaut would have been under control of Cyttorak during the whole 8th day Saga, THEN THE WORLD WOULD BE UNDER CONTROL OF ONE OF THE 8 EXEMPLARS. CYTTORAKS PLAN WAS TO HAVE JUGGERNAUT DEFEAT THE OTHER EXEMPLARS, AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD. WHY THEN WOULD CYTTORAK HAVE JUGGERNAUT DESTROY THE GOD MACHINE THAT TOOK SO LONG TO MAKE? HE DIDN'T, JUGGERNAUT BROKE HIS CONTROL AND FOILED HIS PLANS.
Now do you get it?
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Like I stated If Juggernaut would have been under control of Cyttorak during the whole 8th day Saga, THEN THE WORLD WOULD BE UNDER CONTROL OF ONE OF THE 8 EXEMPLARS. CYTTORAKS PLAN WAS TO HAVE JUGGERNAUT DEFEAT THE OTHER EXEMPLARS, AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD. WHY THEN WOULD CYTTORAK HAVE JUGGERNAUT DESTROY THE GOD MACHINE THAT TOOK SO LONG TO MAKE? HE DIDN'T, JUGGERNAUT BROKE HIS CONTROL AND FOILED HIS PLANS.Now do you get it?
Yeah I get it your telling me he was under Cyttoraks control for part of the time.................yea like I was saying he wasn't typical juggernaut he was controlled. Now you have said it and so have I, its not a normal showing. Also this is what happened to Juggernaut before the Avengers came and saved him.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
It's not conceivable that he would be able to take RTK. That is the reason people thought you were crazy.
Who thinks I'm crazy? 😕 And I didn't say he could take him straight up. That would be outrageous. I simply said that it MIGHT be possible for Batman 1 Million to take RKT with full knowledge of his powers and some prep time.
Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah I get it your telling me he was under Cyttoraks control for part of the time.................yea like I was saying he wasn't typical juggernaut he was controlled. Now you have said it and so have I, its not a normal showing. Also this is what happened to Juggernaut before the Avengers came and saved him.
Yet you still haven't stated what happened afterwards have you? The Avengers were captured, and Juggernaut defeated the Exemplars that the whole Avengers team couldn't. This means that Juggernaut then was stronger than he was when he fought Thor. When he fought Thor he was still in his right mind, he just had someplace he had to be like he stated.
Originally posted by soujaboy09
Yet you still haven't stated what happened afterwards have you? The Avengers were captured, and Juggernaut defeated the Exemplars that the whole Avengers team couldn't. This means that Juggernaut then was stronger than he was when he fought Thor. When he fought Thor he was still in his right mind, he just had someplace he had to be like he stated.
No it doesn't , Bedlam left the fight and the other Avatars were jokes. Please tell me something they did that had ANYTHING of fantastic power because you cannot! They were asstastic and IT DOESN"T MATTER.
WOW ok sorry there outwarddwarf I would hate to cheat Juggernaut out of a few years here for you 2,500,000,000 > 41 years.
Champion is BEYOND Juggs H2H at this point. Souja, outward I am done with you it's been fun. I didn't attempt to prove Champion would hurt Juggernaut , just that he would manhandle him and Juggs doesn't have the skills to beat him.
Juggernaut is strong and VERY durable ok check. Champion is VERY STRONG, VERY DURABLE, VERY FAST, VERY skilled h2h far greater then Juggs can hope to be in even a thousand years. Hence Juggs is a beat toy......................thank you.
Originally posted by Soleran
No it doesn't , Bedlam left the fight and the other Avatars were jokes. Please tell me something they did that had ANYTHING of fantastic power because you cannot! They were asstastic and IT DOESN"T MATTER.WOW ok sorry there outwarddwarf I would hate to cheat Juggernaut out of a few years here for you 2,500,000,000 > 41 years.
Champion is BEYOND Juggs H2H at this point. Souja, outward I am done with you it's been fun. I didn't attempt to prove Champion would hurt Juggernaut , just that he would manhandle him and Juggs doesn't have the skills to beat him.
Juggernaut is strong and VERY durable ok check. Champion is VERY STRONG, VERY DURABLE, VERY FAST, VERY skilled h2h far greater then Juggs can hope to be in even a thousand years. Hence Juggs is a beat toy......................thank you.
You still haven't given the scans I challenged you to give to prove your claims. You just keep saying things you cant prove, and every time we prove our point you ignore it. Thats fine though, because everything you just said at the end I gave scans that Juggernaut can overcome without much effort. So if you want your opinion to be valued stop just making things up, and give us the scans that I requested.