Juggernaut (vs) Champion

But, also, Champion is not a good guy.
If he normally had access to the planet crusher hay-maker, how come he wasn't making hay out of Thing, She-Hulk, Surfer or any of the others I have seen him get tossed by?
Thing beat on him pretty good.
I think he is an Elder of the Universe, because it is going to take another 5 billion years for him to become any good at fighting.
"Pineapple Thing" would have beat him.
I wish they would bring him back, and give him a chip on his shoulder.

Meh, Champion didn't use his primordial power to make himself stronger/more durable when he fought Thing.

This fight would last forever, but Champ would get 99.999999999999999% of the hits.

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hits to his face or hits to the stomach?

Does it matter?

And I heard that Thing tripped Juggs after he was knocked down.

And he broke Champions ribs, also Champion was to afraid to fight Hulk.

he didn't use his power primordal for that fight and he only used fighting styles that ppl on Earth know..........................you are a piece of work.

Go read up on Elders and what the power primordal does..................

And is this the time I call you a liar since the only reason Juggs was alive to fight the Templars was because the Avengers saved him.
Also Thor fought Tempest...............the other templars weren't as powerful as you stated aside from bedlam🙂

Originally posted by Soleran
he didn't use his power primordal for that fight and he only used fighting styles that ppl on Earth know..........................you are a piece of work.

Go read up on Elders and what the power primordal does..................

And is this the time I call you a liar since the only reason Juggs was alive to fight the Templars was because the Avengers saved him.
Also Thor fought Tempest...............the other templars weren't as powerful as you stated aside from bedlam🙂

Getting knocked down and knocked out are two completely different things.

Originally posted by Soleran
he didn't use his power primordal for that fight and he only used fighting styles that ppl on Earth know..........................you are a piece of work.

Go read up on Elders and what the power primordal does..................

And is this the time I call you a liar since the only reason Juggs was alive to fight the Templars was because the Avengers saved him.
Also Thor fought Tempest...............the other templars weren't as powerful as you stated aside from bedlam🙂

Why does it matter what fighting style Champion has if none of them do any damage?

What part of Juggernaut cant die do you not understand? give me the scan that says that Juggernaut was about to be killed. Kind of like the one I gave you that stated Thor was about to die when Juggernaut attacked him.

How was Stonecutter not as strong as Thor if he was able to hold the whole avengers team including Thor captive?

Why was Champion afraid to fight Hulk?

Stonecutter used a machine the same way he did to Juggernaut.................Stonecutter didn't himself physically hold them there, silly boy.

So if all this was happening explain to me please how the Exemplars were defeated?

BTW the machine that was able to hold the whole Avengers team wasn't able to hold good ole Juggernaut. What does that say?

Stonecutter specifically had to draw power away from the machine that was holding the juggernaut to hold the avengers then he had bedlam zonk again with a mental blast to knock him out.........................until CapA talked down the Templars they were all screwed..............

And it still says that Champion using Power Primordal may not kill Juggs but he will become a juggernaut punching bag sadly enough junior🙁

Junior you still forgot to tell me how the Exemplars were defeated. I think I know why though.

Because those are details that mean nothing to this discussion! They were asstastic aside from Bedlam and it doesn't relate to the discussion at hand.

Champion will make Juggernaut a walking punching bag..................

I see you cant name who defeated the Exemplars, because it was Juggernaut who defeated them single handedly. Why couldn't you just say that Juggernaut did what the whole Avengers team couldn't? You could say he was about to die, but you couldn't say that he defeated them all alone.

You keep saying that yet you give us no proof to what your saying.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
I see you cant name who defeated the Exemplars, because it was Juggernaut who defeated them single handedly. Why couldn't you just say that Juggernaut did what the whole Avengers team couldn't? You could say he was about to die, but you couldn't say that he defeated them all alone.

You keep saying that yet you give us no proof to what your saying.

Because whether or not he did or didn't it has no meaning on this discussion................seriously describe Juggernauts last poop for me. It doesn't matter! The Templars were all humans transformed meaning they haven't been around for um like 2 billion plus years like Champion.

Stop drudging up shit, I am not knocking on Juggernaut. What I am saying is that Champion will just toss him around for the next whatever it is because Juggs isn't going to be doing a whole lot to him.

Champion isn't going to do a whole lot to Juggernaut, he was challenged by people like Thing, and She Hulk. He has no way of stopping Juggernaut.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Champion isn't going to do a whole lot to Juggernaut, he was challenged by people like Thing, and She Hulk. He has no way of stopping Juggernaut.

Look I understand at this point reading comprehension can be challenging but let me type this slowly for you to try and understand, ok.

Juggernaut doesn't have the skills or speed to put down Champion, now sure juggs can run around with his shield up all day long and he won't hurt Champion either.

Now the minute the shield comes down Juggernaut is just going to get bounced around like a super bounce ball. Champion with the power primordal is as durable as juggs, Stronger then juggs, ALOT faster then Juggs and CRAZY high skill compared to juggs.

So really its not what is Champion going to do to juggs, its what is juggs going to do to stop champion from doing what he will do.

Tell yeah what let Juggernaut travel the universe for about 2 billion years get his skills up then redo this contest ok, thank you.

Originally posted by Soleran
Because whether or not he did or didn't it has no meaning on this discussion................seriously describe Juggernauts last poop for me. It doesn't matter! The Templars were all humans transformed meaning they haven't been around for um like 2 billion plus years like Champion.

Stop drudging up shit, I am not knocking on Juggernaut. What I am saying is that Champion will just toss him around for the next whatever it is because Juggs isn't going to be doing a whole lot to him.

Look man, I know what you are trying to say, but you are wrong.
Champion may have all kinds of skills, experience, power and strength.
But, it has not helped him. He is not winning. Of course we can say that it is because of bad writing. But, in the end, all that matters, is his record, his history and how poorly he has done in the past.

He is NOT "proven". You are taking the side of a character that has been beaten again and again, and not really shown and wins against high-level guys.

Juggernaut has constantly kicked the butts of high-level guys, and been shown not to get seriously hurt when being attacked by the most powerful guys around.

That has to be taken into account.
Champion has the tools, but he is lacking something. For now.
If this was a fight for a championship, the Champion would never get a shot at the title shot with his record.

Sorry.

The champion will knock juggernaut into the next century. The Champion is to powerful for juggernaut, juggernaut will not be able to land puhcn on him at all, forum rules state full potential Champion with his power primodial will kill juggernaut in h2h combat bottom line, people need to stop coming up with some bullsh** how juggernaut is going to beat a cosmic being. Champion wins 10/10